Diamond Posted November 4, 2006 Posted November 4, 2006 Eh? No, Microsoft .NET is a complete runtime environment, just like Java. [start technobabble] For example, normal programs would run in native mode, i.e. directly in the operating system, .NET programs run in the intermediate .NET environment, and that environment runs in the operating system. So think of it as a mini platform on top of Windows, that is simpler to program for, and hence allows a simpler, faster, and cheaper development process. [End technobabble] Microsoft .NET is needed for the toolset, I can't think of other components that would need it.
Dark_Raven Posted November 4, 2006 Posted November 4, 2006 I knew a techno geek would answer this. Hades was the life of the party. RIP You'll be missed.
Darque Posted November 4, 2006 Posted November 4, 2006 Thanks Diamond. On the game front... I've already had the patch fail once at 96%. Gotta download it again it seems.
Darque Posted November 4, 2006 Posted November 4, 2006 Well... seems I need a "critical rebuild" file that doesn't currently exist. And so my experiences with Neverwinter Nights 2 comes to an end.
Dark_Raven Posted November 4, 2006 Posted November 4, 2006 Play it without the patch. So far no problems with me. Hades was the life of the party. RIP You'll be missed.
Darque Posted November 4, 2006 Posted November 4, 2006 It won't cause any problems now that I've already patched 96% of the patch data?
Dark_Raven Posted November 4, 2006 Posted November 4, 2006 I thought it downloaded the patch than went about installing it. If it didn't install it, I wouldn't see a problem. Hades was the life of the party. RIP You'll be missed.
karka Posted November 4, 2006 Posted November 4, 2006 Is it true that you need 7gb of empty space at your HD to install the patch properly?
Darque Posted November 4, 2006 Posted November 4, 2006 I thought it downloaded the patch than went about installing it. If it didn't install it, I wouldn't see a problem. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> It downloaded it. It installed 96% of it. Then hit a file called VO.Zip and then choked.
Riftworm Posted November 4, 2006 Posted November 4, 2006 (edited) I thought it downloaded the patch than went about installing it. If it didn't install it, I wouldn't see a problem. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> It downloaded it. It installed 96% of it. Then hit a file called VO.Zip and then choked. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Cancel it and do it over..that's why I did when mine hit a roadbloack at 51% at least. 2nd time was the charm and fully installed Edited November 4, 2006 by Riftworm
Darque Posted November 4, 2006 Posted November 4, 2006 This would be the third time, but I'll try again. I was looking at the bioboards and came across something that said you need 7gb of free space on the drive to patch I'll free up some space and try once more.
mkreku Posted November 4, 2006 Posted November 4, 2006 I went to my local store to buy Neverwinter Nights 2, but when I came home I found Singstar: Legends in the bag. CRAP! Swedes, go to: Spel2, for the latest game reviews in swedish!
Noceur Posted November 4, 2006 Posted November 4, 2006 I had the same problem... it's due to diskspace. I uninstalled some crap and tried again, and it worked for me. The reason I'm so sure it's diskspace is because Windows XP said I was running out of disk space while installing the patch, then the patch broke. All you gotta do is free some diskspace and update again. (I'm posting this for the benefit of anyone reading this thread, since you (Darque) already stated that you'd try to clear up some space).
taks Posted November 4, 2006 Posted November 4, 2006 I was looking at the bioboards and came across something that said you need 7gb of free space on the drive to patch <{POST_SNAPBACK}> YES! you need that much space. the patcher will release it after you're finished. total pain. taks comrade taks... just because.
Darque Posted November 4, 2006 Posted November 4, 2006 Whew... it worked. 7gb to install a patch? Ah well, if the game is fun it'll be worth it. Special thanks to Riftworm for convincing me to go through that again.
taks Posted November 4, 2006 Posted November 4, 2006 btw, this is the game i've been waiting to see ever since i finished BG2. i'm having a blast. probably 10-12 hours already, i'm 6th level, working out of highcliff at the moment. i'm a weezard, got the fighter, rogue and druid tagging along. to anyone whining about the camera controls... do you need some cheddar with that whine? easier than NWN. better, IMO. top-down is perfect and i can control the angle with ease. to anyone whining about graphics, are you sure you have the same game as i have? i think they look great. exactly as a crpg should look. this ain't quake. the detail in the interiors is breathtaking, not empty feeling like ToEE (which had potential, but apparently movers got to all the interiors before the players did). exteriors are nice as well. i personally think the characters look fine as well, not anything like the stale, bland characters someone else whinged about. also, i have everything set on medium, with 1152x864 and it is smooth as glass. it actually outperforms NWN1 in many ways (i still get stutters with NWN1). if you have a $5000 system and you're having issues with this game, you need to take computer lessons. step one, plug it in... i was really impressed with the amount of story telling that occurs. surprised, actually. it's great. particularly when your party members start arguing (and argue they do). pause during a cut-scene to take a quick break... wow. TONS of scripted sequences acted out based on who is in your party. very slick. if this game continues the rest of the way as it has begun, it will likely be one of my all-time favorites. i'm totally impressed. good job obsidian. very good job. taks comrade taks... just because.
Dark_Raven Posted November 4, 2006 Posted November 4, 2006 Whew... it worked. 7gb to install a patch? Ah well, if the game is fun it'll be worth it. Special thanks to Riftworm for convincing me to go through that again. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> 7G?? Good thing for file compressions. The patch is 82MB compressed. Hades was the life of the party. RIP You'll be missed.
Arkan Posted November 4, 2006 Posted November 4, 2006 btw, this is the game i've been waiting to see ever since i finished BG2. i'm having a blast. probably 10-12 hours already, i'm 6th level, working out of highcliff at the moment. i'm a weezard, got the fighter, rogue and druid tagging along. to anyone whining about the camera controls... do you need some cheddar with that whine? easier than NWN. better, IMO. top-down is perfect and i can control the angle with ease. to anyone whining about graphics, are you sure you have the same game as i have? i think they look great. exactly as a crpg should look. this ain't quake. the detail in the interiors is breathtaking, not empty feeling like ToEE (which had potential, but apparently movers got to all the interiors before the players did). exteriors are nice as well. i personally think the characters look fine as well, not anything like the stale, bland characters someone else whinged about. also, i have everything set on medium, with 1152x864 and it is smooth as glass. it actually outperforms NWN1 in many ways (i still get stutters with NWN1). if you have a $5000 system and you're having issues with this game, you need to take computer lessons. step one, plug it in... i was really impressed with the amount of story telling that occurs. surprised, actually. it's great. particularly when your party members start arguing (and argue they do). pause during a cut-scene to take a quick break... wow. TONS of scripted sequences acted out based on who is in your party. very slick. if this game continues the rest of the way as it has begun, it will likely be one of my all-time favorites. i'm totally impressed. good job obsidian. very good job. taks <{POST_SNAPBACK}> This is what I like to hear....I just can't bank on the game running properly on my systems, what with all the problems I've heard, though I've never been plagued by performance problems due to my setup (other than them being less than stellar, which is no longer the case). I just don't know. I need a patch "Of course the people don't want war. But after all, it's the leaders of the country who determine the policy, and it's always a simple matter to drag the people along whether it's a democracy, a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism, and exposing the country to greater danger." - Herman Goering at the Nuremberg trials "I have also been slowly coming to the realisation that knowledge and happiness are not necessarily coincident, and quite often mutually exclusive" - meta
Darque Posted November 4, 2006 Posted November 4, 2006 Whew... it worked. 7gb to install a patch? Ah well, if the game is fun it'll be worth it. Special thanks to Riftworm for convincing me to go through that again. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> 7G?? Good thing for file compressions. The patch is 82MB compressed. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I think it's space that's needed for files the patching process is using. Since most of the files are Zips, I'm guessing it needs to unzip them, patch, and then zip them again. I'm starting to regret partitioning this drive into 20gig bites
taks Posted November 4, 2006 Posted November 4, 2006 This is what I like to hear....I just can't bank on the game running properly on my systems, what with all the problems I've heard, though I've never been plagued by performance problems due to my setup (other than them being less than stellar, which is no longer the case). I just don't know. I need a patch <{POST_SNAPBACK}> i have a system that is not much better than the minimum. however, i do know how to take care of it. in particular: winXP professional on AMD 3200+ with no OC ASUS 8KV mobo (er, K8V?) 1 GB DDR333 40 GB WD HDD, 7200 rpm ATA100 (i have a SATA 3.0, but it is dedicated to Linux) 6800 vanilla 128 MB vid card with extra pipes turned on. no other modifications. audigy 2 gamer sound card and logitech speakers. oh, and a dell 19" monitor. got it from a friend. i'm about to take over a dell 20" LCD that i'm scarfing from work (they're dumping a bunch of stuff). nothing fancy, just simple. fairly recent drivers for everything, btw. taks comrade taks... just because.
LoneWolf16 Posted November 4, 2006 Posted November 4, 2006 I've got the graphics turned up to the max...it's kinda pretty, but the sheer amount of jaggies is akin to ramming an ice pick into my eyes every time I look at it. The controls are sluggish too, as is the gameplay. Or maybe FPS's and WoW have screwed my perception in that area... I had thought that some of nature's journeymen had made men and not made them well, for they imitated humanity so abominably. - Book of Counted Sorrows 'Cause I won't know the man that kills me and I don't know these men I kill but we all wind up on the same side 'cause ain't none of us doin' god's will. - Everlast
taks Posted November 4, 2006 Posted November 4, 2006 i think the latter is true. plus, you can set the response in the options menu (i.e. you can incresae the sensitivity of controls). taks comrade taks... just because.
Arkan Posted November 4, 2006 Posted November 4, 2006 This is what I like to hear....I just can't bank on the game running properly on my systems, what with all the problems I've heard, though I've never been plagued by performance problems due to my setup (other than them being less than stellar, which is no longer the case). I just don't know. I need a patch <{POST_SNAPBACK}> i have a system that is not much better than the minimum. however, i do know how to take care of it. in particular: winXP professional on AMD 3200+ with no OC ASUS 8KV mobo (er, K8V?) 1 GB DDR333 40 GB WD HDD, 7200 rpm ATA100 (i have a SATA 3.0, but it is dedicated to Linux) 6800 vanilla 128 MB vid card with extra pipes turned on. no other modifications. audigy 2 gamer sound card and logitech speakers. oh, and a dell 19" monitor. got it from a friend. i'm about to take over a dell 20" LCD that i'm scarfing from work (they're dumping a bunch of stuff). nothing fancy, just simple. fairly recent drivers for everything, btw. taks <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I've heard people complaining about poor performance when they have a completely decked out system, so it seems it's rather hit or miss. "Of course the people don't want war. But after all, it's the leaders of the country who determine the policy, and it's always a simple matter to drag the people along whether it's a democracy, a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism, and exposing the country to greater danger." - Herman Goering at the Nuremberg trials "I have also been slowly coming to the realisation that knowledge and happiness are not necessarily coincident, and quite often mutually exclusive" - meta
Volourn Posted November 4, 2006 Posted November 4, 2006 (edited) "do you need some cheddar with that whine?" Troll much? I'm so happy you like the camera controls; but quite frankly they are below par. Horrid actually. Good amount of playing is trying to find the right camera angle to play so walls or buildings don't get in the way or such an insane closeup; you can't see nothing but the character. Graphics are good. Mostly not breathtaking though exscept in some instances. Performance is greta. Like I said before, it's posisbly the most stable PC game I've tried. The npcs are great for the most part; but the actual story is 'merely' good. Obsidian did a good job; but your idea that the game is perfect is just as bad as those who think it's the 'worst game ever'. L0LLERZ! P.S. 10 hours to get to High Cliff? WOW! And, I thought I was taking my time... Edited November 4, 2006 by Volourn DWARVES IN PROJECT ETERNITY = VOLOURN HAS PLEDGED $250.
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