~Di Posted January 29, 2006 Posted January 29, 2006 My precious 4-year-old 19" monitor bit the big one today. Just wouldn't light up. Am now using a cruddy old 17" that cannot tell the difference between blue and gray. I hope to be able to get my ViewSonic repaired, but if I can't I'll be faced with choosing another old-style tube monitor or going with slim, fancy LCD. I'm not in love with heavy and clunky, mind you, and enjoy the light-weight look of the flat LCD's, but have heard they have a very short life and are not very good for game playing. Can y'all give me some feedback and advice? I'd appreciate it.
Bokishi Posted January 29, 2006 Posted January 29, 2006 LCD's don't have good blacks, but lifespan shouldn't be an issue. Current 3DMark
Moose Posted January 29, 2006 Posted January 29, 2006 TFT LCDs are a lot better than CRTs in my opinion. I can definitely notice a big difference. You have to get one with a refresh rate under 10ms though or you'll notice a lot of ghosting whilst playing FPS or other fast paced games. There are none that are right, only strong of opinion. There are none that are wrong, only ignorant of facts
LoneWolf16 Posted January 29, 2006 Posted January 29, 2006 No love for analog flat screens? I love this thing. I had thought that some of nature's journeymen had made men and not made them well, for they imitated humanity so abominably. - Book of Counted Sorrows 'Cause I won't know the man that kills me and I don't know these men I kill but we all wind up on the same side 'cause ain't none of us doin' god's will. - Everlast
Lucius Posted January 29, 2006 Posted January 29, 2006 Wolf I totally dig your avatar. DENMARK! It appears that I have not yet found a sig to replace the one about me not being banned... interesting.
Petay Posted January 29, 2006 Posted January 29, 2006 Lucius, I rotally dig yours! Best puppet movie ever!
Hurlshort Posted January 29, 2006 Posted January 29, 2006 The newer LCD monitors are just as impressive in terms of resolution and refresh rate as a CRT monitor. Lifespan shouldn't be an issue either. If you can afford it, it's definitely worth it. They are about twice the price of a CRT, but there are high quality ones for $300 now.
LoneWolf16 Posted January 29, 2006 Posted January 29, 2006 Wolf I totally dig your avatar. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Thanks. And nice Kim ya got there. I had thought that some of nature's journeymen had made men and not made them well, for they imitated humanity so abominably. - Book of Counted Sorrows 'Cause I won't know the man that kills me and I don't know these men I kill but we all wind up on the same side 'cause ain't none of us doin' god's will. - Everlast
WITHTEETH Posted January 29, 2006 Posted January 29, 2006 I have a CRT, it cost $250 for a 19inch Samsumg flatscreen monitor. I'd say if you have the room to spare get a CRT, its not like their screen quality is bad, the only difference is that LCD's are more expensive and smaller. Always outnumbered, never out gunned! Unreal Tournament 2004 Handle:Enlight_2.0 Myspace Website! My rig
SteveThaiBinh Posted January 30, 2006 Posted January 30, 2006 The best thing about TFT monitors is you can push them all the way back on the desk and avoid eye strain. Plus it fits in a suitcase. And it's fun to tap the screen and watch the ripple during long loading periods. "An electric puddle is not what I need right now." (Nina Kalenkov)
~Di Posted January 30, 2006 Author Posted January 30, 2006 Thanks so much for the feedback! One monitor we are considering is the ViewSonic Widescreen 19" LCD... has anyone used a Widescreed LCD for gaming? Does it look good, or are there black strips on the sides to fill in beyond the standard game-screen size?
Sargallath Abraxium Posted January 30, 2006 Posted January 30, 2006 ...one thing e'en good gamin' (low response time) LCD monitors ain't good fer is playin' games at non-native resolutions; the native resolution fer most 17" & 19" LCDs bein' 1280x1024...a big thing ta ponder upon if'n yer still givin' yer ol' classics theys play e'er once in awhile (hence the reason I got the 19" ViewSonic G90fB crt; I couldna bring meself ta 'ave a monitor that wouldna gimme the best outta me ol' IE classics)... ...WHO LUVS YA, BABY!!... A long, long time ago, but I can still remember, How the Trolling used to make me smile. And I knew if I had my chance, I could egg on a few Trolls to "dance", And maybe we'd be happy for a while. But then Krackhead left and so did Klown; Volo and Turnip were banned, Mystake got run out o' town. Bad news on the Front Page, BIOweenia said goodbye in a heated rage. I can't remember if I cried When I heard that TORN was recently fried, But sadness touched me deep inside, The day...Black Isle died. For tarna, Visc, an' the rest o' the ol' Islanders that fell along the way
Fionavar Posted January 30, 2006 Posted January 30, 2006 Wide screen monitors can be problematic. Most games do have unofficial support, however. LCDs, imo, are now ready for prime-time gaming. Fwiiw, Di, this is what I went with when my 21" CRT gave up the ghost: http://www.samsung.com/ca/products/monitor...l/de19psqaq.asp The universe is change; your life is what our thoughts make it - Marcus Aurelius (161)
Gromnir Posted January 30, 2006 Posted January 30, 2006 lord knows that we generally loathe viewsonic... but the g90fb is a very good and very affordable monitor... one of the best dollar:quality 19" gaming crts we has seen. on the other hand, di might keep in mind that a 19" lcd actually got more viewable area than a 19" crt. if size matters. ... disturbing. not immediately disagreeing with sargy feels... wrong. however, as this is technical advice maybe we can bear the realization. HA! Good Fun! "If there be time to expose through discussion the falsehood and fallacies, to avert the evil by the processes of education, the remedy to be applied is more speech, not enforced silence."Justice Louis Brandeis, Concurring, Whitney v. California, 274 U.S. 357 (1927) "Im indifferent to almost any murder as long as it doesn't affect me or mine."--Gfted1 (September 30, 2019)
Sargallath Abraxium Posted January 30, 2006 Posted January 30, 2006 not immediately disagreeing with sargy feels... wrong. HA! Good Fun! <{POST_SNAPBACK}> ...sad thing be that we's in agreement again...truly a sad day, indeed... ...WHO LUVS YA, BABY!!... A long, long time ago, but I can still remember, How the Trolling used to make me smile. And I knew if I had my chance, I could egg on a few Trolls to "dance", And maybe we'd be happy for a while. But then Krackhead left and so did Klown; Volo and Turnip were banned, Mystake got run out o' town. Bad news on the Front Page, BIOweenia said goodbye in a heated rage. I can't remember if I cried When I heard that TORN was recently fried, But sadness touched me deep inside, The day...Black Isle died. For tarna, Visc, an' the rest o' the ol' Islanders that fell along the way
Fionavar Posted January 30, 2006 Posted January 30, 2006 This might help as a resource if considering the widescreen option and what games can be made to comply with the different resolution: http://www.widescreengamingforum.com/ The universe is change; your life is what our thoughts make it - Marcus Aurelius (161)
Bokishi Posted January 30, 2006 Posted January 30, 2006 This might help as a resource if considering the widescreen option and what games can be made to comply with the different resolution: http://www.widescreengamingforum.com/ <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I love that site, it's like my bible Current 3DMark
~Di Posted January 30, 2006 Author Posted January 30, 2006 Great info, thanks so much. Fionavar, I particularly enjoyed browsing the site you posted. I've decided widescreen probably isn't for me, not being a techie-geek and all. Main decision is whether to go LCD or stay with a huge, heavy-but-reliable-for-all-my-games CRT. CRT seems the safest way to go; cheaper, easier to use, might even be able to afford a 21" (Yes, Grommy, size DOES matter!). But lord they weigh a ton and I have to find muscle-bound rent-a-boys to haul the danged thing around so husby's back won't dislocate on him again. .... Hmmm, perhaps I have made my decision? *evil grin* ..... Nah. Muscle-bound rent-a-boys are fleeting; solid gaming is forever! Keep the feedback coming!
Sargallath Abraxium Posted January 30, 2006 Posted January 30, 2006 ...if you do decide to go wit' the LCD, Di, dunna e'en look at one wit' less than an 8 ms gtg & 20 ms bwb response time (preferably a 16 ms bwb response time or lower)... ...WHO LUVS YA, BABY!!... A long, long time ago, but I can still remember, How the Trolling used to make me smile. And I knew if I had my chance, I could egg on a few Trolls to "dance", And maybe we'd be happy for a while. But then Krackhead left and so did Klown; Volo and Turnip were banned, Mystake got run out o' town. Bad news on the Front Page, BIOweenia said goodbye in a heated rage. I can't remember if I cried When I heard that TORN was recently fried, But sadness touched me deep inside, The day...Black Isle died. For tarna, Visc, an' the rest o' the ol' Islanders that fell along the way
Bokishi Posted January 30, 2006 Posted January 30, 2006 I like my LCD except for the grey-blacks which become noticible while gaming in the dark. Current 3DMark
Weiser_Cain Posted January 30, 2006 Posted January 30, 2006 *looks down* I've been using this Hitachi cm828 since, well for years. My friend got me back into computers by showing me Photoshop 4 or 5 and he had this model monitor. He'd bought two of them for around $1400 a piece and didn't think twice about the price. He still uses those monitors and I have to say I agree, I have no issues with this monitor besides maybe the size and weight of the thing which pales in light of it's plusses. Just buy a bigger desk. Yaw devs, Yaw!!! (
Hurlshort Posted January 30, 2006 Posted January 30, 2006 I think it's all about price at this point. If you have the disposable income, there's no reason not to get an LCD, but most people don't have money lying around.
Weiser_Cain Posted January 30, 2006 Posted January 30, 2006 You mean besides blurry screens? Yaw devs, Yaw!!! (
DemonKing Posted January 30, 2006 Posted January 30, 2006 (edited) I used to have a Mitsubishi Diamondscan 230 22" CRT monitor and it was glorious, but when I moved countries recently I swapped to a Samsung 930BF LCD (4ms!) and I can't say I'll be going back to CRT anytime soon. There's no motion blur or any problems with this screen compared to older LCD models. I'm much happier to recommend LCDs for gaming now I've been using this baby then those I saw a few years ago the last time I was in the monitor market. As someone else said, just look for <8ms and you should be fine. Edited January 30, 2006 by DemonKing
Bokishi Posted January 30, 2006 Posted January 30, 2006 I used to have a Mitubishi Diamondscan 230 22" CRT monitor and it was glorious <{POST_SNAPBACK}> A 22" inch CRT must have been a bulky nightmare! Current 3DMark
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