Censorship

[Missy]

Being a moderator does suck, it's a tireless, thankless job...

Did you mean tiresome?

 

 

Anyway,

I think, the best way is when a mod is not seen. If you want to participate and mod at the same time, have an alt account. Even if people know that fact (better if they don't, of course) they won't take it as personal as if you engaged in the conversation with a mod account and then locked the thread. It is an emotional thing, but humans are mostly illogical beings.

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It all depends on various factors. Some communities suit faceless moderation, others work better when moderators are seen as part of that community.

[kirottu]

Too much censorship makes hair grow on your back.

[Darque]

Being a moderator does suck, it's a tireless, thankless job...

Did you mean tiresome?

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heh, ayup.

 

Sleep. Need. Do. I.

[Diamond]

Too much censorship makes hair grow on your back.

 

 

Your avatar...

[kirottu]

Too much censorship makes hair grow on your back.

 

 

Your avatar...

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Touch

[Surreptishus]

With regards to a message board, posting is a privilege not a right so we are subject to the whim of moderators and admin.

 

With regards to media and public speaking censorship should be avoided up to a point i.e. not inciting hatred and all that.

 

In the case of an accident or in fact when talking amongst friends or delivering bad news in an informal setting. What would be the point of candor? Its tactless not to censor yourself.

[Child of Flame]

Statements that incite hatred should be allowed just like all others IMHO.

 

Otherwise you open the door for censorship of other things.

[julianw]

That's why KKK is still around.

[Surreptishus]

Statements that incite hatred should be allowed just like all others IMHO. 

 

Otherwise you open the door for censorship of other things.

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Its a very blurry line which makes it very difficult to judge. I dont agree with fulll free speech.

[julianw]

In US at least, free speech is protected by the Constitution as along as it does not undermine national security.

[Darque]

In US at least, free speech is protected by the Constitution as along as it does not undermine national security.

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A contradiction unto itself.

[SteveThaiBinh]

Our government is trying to outlaw incitement to religious hatred, and not doing terribly well at it. The law will come very close to banning all criticism of religious beliefs (criminalising several UK posters on this forum ), but we're supposed to relax because the government promises not to use the law against normal people, only bad people.

[CoM_Solaufein]

Being an adminstrator of a forum board is a thankless job. Each board has their own set of rules or no rules at all. Being part of a modding community we usually stick around with topics that deal with the game or modding, plus theres a general chat area like WoT here. You could say we have a limited censorship because I will not allow religious, politcal topics there. I've ran other boards before that allowed those topics and it is nothing but trouble. Just go look at the religion topic here. I won't have that headache, go some where else for that stuff.

[Kaftan Barlast]

we're supposed to relax because the government promises not to use the law against normal people, only bad people.

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He.. the old fascist slogan "If youre innocent you have nothing to worry about"

[Judge Hades]

The problem being is that everyone is guilty of something.

[LadyCrimson]

I'd like to point out that I really hate tiny text

Loathe it

 

Highlighting it and cut & pasting it to notepad makes it readable, too.

 

As to the subject...um...well....censorship sucks, but occasionally (very occasionally) & in some kinds of extreme circumstances, it's useful for keeping things from getting out of hand...at least, if that matters to people...which for some it doesn't. So then you could debate the rights/wrongs of that aspect forever and ever...yawn.

 

That's about all I have to say. <_<

[taks]

In US at least, free speech is protected by the Constitution as along as it does not undermine national security.

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uh, that's not the only exception... in particular, inciting a riot, which has little if anything to do with national security, is considered a crime. the supreme court has regularly held the notion that not all speech is protected, moreso in public fora.

 

taks

[ShadowPaladin V1.0]

Free speech is an illusion. However would you really want FREE speech ?

 

Just look at those Storma splinter group guys.

[Surreptishus]

the good thing about the internet is that potentially anyone can express their views.

the bad thing about the internet is that potentially anyone can express their views

[Rosbjerg]

The problem being is that everyone is guilty of something.

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especially the crime of not being guilty enough!

[Walsingham]

As far as moderating goes I feel it is excellent that we have challenging discussions here. I've learned a lot from them. But I feel certain viewpoints are beyond the pale; 'contra humanis generis' if you like. Needless cruelty, unreasoning hatred, blind ignorance. These things are bad 'n' wrong.

 

These types of views should be censored for three reasons

 

1) People should not be made to feel afraid on any forum, least of all one about playing games for fun. Thus even if a view is transparently rubbish, like a pic of Auschwitz death pits with the caption 'haha hah', it should not be on here.

 

2) The people who hold these views need to be sent as strong a message as possible that their views are repellent. Hopefully this may make them question said views, or at the very least not build on them. If they feel they are speaking to a silent majority who secretly support their views, they will get worse.

 

3) If someone reads these repellent views and is of insufficient calibre to see through them, they may start to believe in them. You'd be amazed the rubbish kids will believe. Or at least you would be if you'd never been a teacher.

 

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I should stress that is my view, and is not some reflection of any other mods.

 

 

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I feel this really relates back to a number of prior debates we've had on freedom of speech. I argued then and now that free speech is not, and never has been an absolute, any more than freedom of action is. The essential driving objective of an enlightened society must be the creation and maintenance of some state in its members are free from harm and an unnatural fear of harm.

 

In the past we have attacked state censorship because it was frequently a barrier to these things being achieved. We need to be free to criticise the Czar's administration because otherwise it will never get better. We need to be free to criticise the flat Earth theory because until we do our ships can't navigate. But under those conditions we didn't see as bad the useful squashing of views devoted to unrest, hatred, and violence. So we wrote laws championing free speech, not seeing they would lay us open to abuse from our fellow citizens.

[Gabrielle]

Censorship is every where. It's so taboo to talk about certain things or certain subjects. It's ok when people attack you call you stupid, ignorant, whatever, but when you defend yourself you're the one that gets into trouble. Beuatiful I tell ya.

[the dude]

It seems to me that there isn't enough censorship. It seems to me that the term "liberal" has become a dirty word thanks to the common conservative agenda. Most of the society complains about not knowing what is going on in the government, with the "war," yadda yadda, but even if they did know, they probably wouldn't be able to comprehend the problems, simply because they aren't in that position to make important decisions.

Moreover, some movies these days are pushing the limit on grotesqueness, and frankly from my point of view, obscene. Because of the lack of censorship, I believe that our society has a bloodlust and a overwhelming sense of greed.

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[Diamond]

Censorship can be worse: China and Microsoft.

BTW It is not limited to Microsoft, Google and Yahoo also comply with Chinese government in internet censorship.

[Walsingham]

It seems to me that there isn't enough censorship. It seems to me that the term "liberal" has become a dirty word thanks to the common conservative agenda. Most of the society complains about not knowing what is going on in the government, with the "war," yadda yadda, but even if they did know, they probably wouldn't be able to comprehend the problems, simply because they aren't in that position to make important decisions.

Moreover, some movies these days are pushing the limit on grotesqueness, and frankly from my point of view, obscene. Because of the lack of censorship, I believe that our society has a bloodlust and a overwhelming sense of greed. 

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You just totally confused me. You are a liberal asking for more censorship?

 

Also, I think it may be that our greedy bloodlusty nature may be the reason why our democracies are relaxing consorship. We told them to.