stop_him Posted January 21, 2005 Posted January 21, 2005 (edited) Wouldn't it make more sense? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Maybe you should explain your reasoning... Or if this is supposed to be a joke... then haha I get it, but still no. Edited January 21, 2005 by stop_him
jaguars4ever Posted January 21, 2005 Posted January 21, 2005 Wouldn't it make more sense? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Please try to keep all homoerotic fantasties to a minimum.
NeverwinterKnight Posted January 21, 2005 Posted January 21, 2005 it would be nice if the original poster gave a reason for his poll. its difficult to say yes or no and debate both sides of his question when he never really indicates why it would make more sense.
Kalfear Posted January 21, 2005 Posted January 21, 2005 Comes down to what you give up to get the diciple! If your saying replace Handmaiden for him, not a chance in hell If I could replace GoTo for Diciple! Well thats a trade Id be totally and completely for Kalfear Disco and Dragons Avatar Enlarged
Darth Mandalorian_1 Posted January 21, 2005 Posted January 21, 2005 I never going to give up anyone for Disicple. Never! "Nothing's perfect. This world is not perfect, but it's there for us trying the best it can. That's what makes it so beautiful."
Frinklin Posted January 21, 2005 Posted January 21, 2005 I get what the original poster is meaning, and I agree. Before I get into this, I want it noted that I don't like Disciple at all, and I do like the Handmaiden. But as a male Exile, the Disciple would be a better choice. Not as a romance interest- though I do think Atton is in the closet-but as an apprentice. Making characters both is a misstep by OE. Teacher/student relationships are inherently one-sided powerwise, and therefore a really bad way to start a romance. There are some sociologists who consider all sexual relationships that involve teacher/student matches -regardless of age- rape, as a teacher has sigificant power and influence over a student, and the student may not even be able to truely consent. Consider what we've seen with non-KoTOR EU stuff. Mace Windu had a female Padawan, and there are male/female matches in the new Yoda book, but one of those is a female Gran and male human. In fact, the vast majority of Master/Apprentice relationships are with the same species and sex. That would make sense. In a universe as vast and complex as the SW one, it would probably be easiest to relate to such commonality. So how would I fix it? I would have swapped the Disciple and Handmaiden. I would have made the Disciple younger, and much edgier. Wasn't this guy left by the Exile when he/she went to war, and then forgotten in the aftermath? Wouldn't that create some huge issues? I would have set up the game that only ONE of your NPC could become a Jedi at a time, and set up a signficant stoyline after that. Wouldn't that make more sense than creating 4 new Jedi and none of them mentioning it? Additionally I would have made Mira a little older, and she would have been the romance option for male Exiles. So it would be 1 apprentice and then a choice of Visas/Mira for males and Atton/Visas for females. Just a thought.
bodrock Posted January 21, 2005 Posted January 21, 2005 poor Disciple.......so he's a goody-goody! All the more reason to corrupt him to the darkside whenever possible. I got him bottomed out, but he won't serve me as a fallen jedi, unfortunately -- I influenced Bao-dur and Atton instead, and they're maxed.
cewekeds Posted January 21, 2005 Posted January 21, 2005 I get what the original poster is meaning, and I agree. Before I get into this, I want it noted that I don't like Disciple at all, and I do like the Handmaiden. But as a male Exile, the Disciple would be a better choice. Not as a romance interest- though I do think Atton is in the closet-but as an apprentice. Making characters both is a misstep by OE. Teacher/student relationships are inherently one-sided powerwise, and therefore a really bad way to start a romance. There are some sociologists who consider all sexual relationships that involve teacher/student matches -regardless of age- rape, as a teacher has sigificant power and influence over a student, and the student may not even be able to truely consent. Consider what we've seen with non-KoTOR EU stuff. Mace Windu had a female Padawan, and there are male/female matches in the new Yoda book, but one of those is a female Gran and male human. In fact, the vast majority of Master/Apprentice relationships are with the same species and sex. That would make sense. In a universe as vast and complex as the SW one, it would probably be easiest to relate to such commonality. So how would I fix it? I would have swapped the Disciple and Handmaiden. I would have made the Disciple younger, and much edgier. Wasn't this guy left by the Exile when he/she went to war, and then forgotten in the aftermath? Wouldn't that create some huge issues? I would have set up the game that only ONE of your NPC could become a Jedi at a time, and set up a signficant stoyline after that. Wouldn't that make more sense than creating 4 new Jedi and none of them mentioning it? Additionally I would have made Mira a little older, and she would have been the romance option for male Exiles. So it would be 1 apprentice and then a choice of Visas/Mira for males and Atton/Visas for females. Just a thought. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Visas Goes both ways (w00t)
Odabhsoj Posted January 24, 2005 Posted January 24, 2005 I see what your point is but it just dosent seem right I like it how it is so ill have to disagree with you on this one.... They did that for a reason its kinda like opposits atttract with the how opposit sex thing i guess lol!
Obireel Y Doncha Posted January 24, 2005 Posted January 24, 2005 I'll probably never play through as a female Exile cuz there's no way I'd give up the Handmaiden for the Disciple. All I've got to say is the first time you see the Disciple he curtsies.
Parthalan Posted February 6, 2005 Posted February 6, 2005 I'll probably never play through as a female Exile cuz there's no way I'd give up the Handmaiden for the Disciple. All I've got to say is the first time you see the Disciple he curtsies. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Playing as a LS male he bowed for me and I never got the option to add him to my group.
Darth Sun_Tzu Posted February 6, 2005 Posted February 6, 2005 Wouldn't it make more sense? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> If you are after a bit of boy on boy action then yes! Another great idea by the people who brought you beer milkshakes! "I don't see a problem...then again, SW isn't my life, so what do I know...." - some who makes 27.8 post per day on a SW forum!
Darth Ni Posted February 6, 2005 Posted February 6, 2005 I'm not reading those post fearing MEGA spoilers. I just have a question : IF you start a game as a Male player, can you have both the disciple and handmaiden in your party?
Laozi Posted February 6, 2005 Posted February 6, 2005 No, you meet him, and have a short but torrid love affair, and then he dumps you for a rough trick named Billy People laugh when I say that I think a jellyfish is one of the most beautiful things in the world. What they don't understand is, I mean a jellyfish with long, blond hair.
Darth Ni Posted February 6, 2005 Posted February 6, 2005 So basically all you have to do is set the gender to both and you will be able to have both the handmaiden and disciple in your party? The savegame editor... ahh I love that thing. It kinda got wierd though because you thought Carth was gay when he said I love you to a man... yeeshh....
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