DSLuke Posted November 17, 2004 Posted November 17, 2004 Nah, I'm too strong for the Dark Side. And by the light of the moon He prays for their beauty not doom
Planar Jedi Posted November 17, 2004 Posted November 17, 2004 Another think showing your ignorance. Not even Palpatine seduced Anakin to be so devoted to the dark side There is hope beyond hope
GhostofAnakin Posted November 17, 2004 Posted November 17, 2004 Okay now in KOTOR too many skills were useless- awareness being the most pointless of all, there being no stealthed enemies for you to see. But now it seems every skill has a great use Awareness- used in conversations Repair- to build upgrades Treat injury- to determine your characters regeneration rate. Security- to hack into terminals and access new side-quests. Persuade- to keep party-members alligned with you. Demoltions- have been said to add damage to grenades and mines. computer use- to access more information for xp stealth- you can see conversations/cutscenes you wouldn't normally Now if all these skills are important how can we possibly get high ratings on any of them if we need them all? In KOTOR you could ignore security (just bash doors), awareness (useless anyway) and demolitions (you can heal yourself after setting off a mine easily). It seems TSL will have too many skills we actually want, so we will end up splitting skill points between all 8, and then not being high enough in any of them to actually make full use of them. I only hope we get a LOT of skill points. More than 8 per level or we'll never get anywhere with the skills. Looks like Sentinel will become more valuable. What do you think? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Replayability? Now you can play through various times to maximize usage of all these skills but at different times. "Console exclusive is such a harsh word." - Darque"Console exclusive is two words Darque." - Nartwak (in response to Darque's observation)
Planar Jedi Posted November 17, 2004 Posted November 17, 2004 And that is the whole point. If you played Fallout once, you missed the whole fun There is hope beyond hope
Ludozee Posted November 17, 2004 Posted November 17, 2004 I think there should be more skills too, but only relevant ones. Like, in Kotor, skills like swim are quite useless, but skills like weapon upgrade would be OK.
Judge Hades Posted November 17, 2004 Posted November 17, 2004 Oh would Swim be worthless. If the engine had an actual Z axis it would make underwater scenes all that much more involved.
DSLuke Posted November 17, 2004 Posted November 17, 2004 Oh would Swim be worthless. If the engine had an actual Z axis it would make underwater scenes all that much more involved. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> The engine doesn't have it, so stop complaining about everything. And by the light of the moon He prays for their beauty not doom
Judge Hades Posted November 17, 2004 Posted November 17, 2004 I'll stop complaining when Obsidian makes a game that is satisfactory to my tastes, or at least 70% so. If I see something I don't like, I make it known.
DSLuke Posted November 17, 2004 Posted November 17, 2004 There must be MANY things you don't like about the game then. And since I've been in these forums all I see is you complaining about this or that. You may be right in some of your points, but you are over doing it. And by the light of the moon He prays for their beauty not doom
Judge Hades Posted November 17, 2004 Posted November 17, 2004 Hey, if you don't like my posts, don't read them. Simple.
DSLuke Posted November 17, 2004 Posted November 17, 2004 It isn't that simple. You are everywhere. And by the light of the moon He prays for their beauty not doom
213374U Posted November 17, 2004 Posted November 17, 2004 Boy this gets old. Hades complaining about things he doesn't like, and pretty much all the other users complaining about Hades complaining. OMG... - When he is best, he is a little worse than a man, and when he is worst, he is little better than a beast.
Parph Dioak Posted November 17, 2004 Posted November 17, 2004 Awareness- used in conversationsRepair- to build upgrades Treat injury- to determine your characters regeneration rate. Security- to hack into terminals and access new side-quests. Persuade- to keep party-members alligned with you. Demoltions- have been said to add damage to grenades and mines. computer use- to access more information for xp stealth- you can see conversations/cutscenes you wouldn't normally <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I would give Repair, Secruity, Demolitions, and Computer use to the droids in your party. For the PC I would give him(or her) persuade, awareness, and maybe stealth. For treat injury I wouldnt give that to anyone I would just give a jedi on the team the Heal force power.
213374U Posted November 17, 2004 Posted November 17, 2004 I would give Repair, Secruity, Demolitions, and Computer use to the droids in your party. For the PC I would give him(or her) persuade, awareness, and maybe stealth. For treat injury I wouldnt give that to anyone I would just give a jedi on the team the Heal force power. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> If you thought Heal was cheese, wait until you see Master Heal. :ph34r: Now I'm thinking, the devs have said that at some points in the game, you might be playing only with NPCs. This could mean as well that you could be forced to play with a team composed of non-Jedi entirely. It would suck if you found yourself with no one able to use a medkit properly wouldn't it? - When he is best, he is a little worse than a man, and when he is worst, he is little better than a beast.
DarthRevan987 Posted November 17, 2004 Posted November 17, 2004 Demolitions have no appel to me so i guess i will be ignoring that skill
GhostofAnakin Posted November 17, 2004 Posted November 17, 2004 Boy this gets old. Hades complaining about things he doesn't like, and pretty much all the other users complaining about Hades complaining. OMG... <{POST_SNAPBACK}> You forget another part of this "cycle". That being, someone makes a comment about it getting old. "Console exclusive is such a harsh word." - Darque"Console exclusive is two words Darque." - Nartwak (in response to Darque's observation)
DSLuke Posted November 17, 2004 Posted November 17, 2004 Boy this gets old. Hades complaining about things he doesn't like, and pretty much all the other users complaining about Hades complaining. OMG... <{POST_SNAPBACK}> You forget another part of this "cycle". That being, someone makes a comment about it getting old. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> LOL And by the light of the moon He prays for their beauty not doom
Judge Hades Posted November 17, 2004 Posted November 17, 2004 Boy this gets old. Hades complaining about things he doesn't like, and pretty much all the other users complaining about Hades complaining. OMG... <{POST_SNAPBACK}> You forget another part of this "cycle". That being, someone makes a comment about it getting old. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> BWAAHAAAHAAAAA! (w00t)
MASTER Posted November 17, 2004 Posted November 17, 2004 replay alot and more levels than 20. I think all of them are going to be a great enhacment to the game, because deeper consversation is usally better.
Stargate: 2000 Posted November 18, 2004 Posted November 18, 2004 Boy this gets old. Hades complaining about things he doesn't like, and pretty much all the other users complaining about Hades complaining. OMG... <{POST_SNAPBACK}> well hey everyones got to be good at something and Hades just happens to be good at starting debates... or arguements depending on how you want to look at it. " :D "The only difference between genius and stupidity is genius has its limits!" - Albert Einstein. "It's better to be thought a fool, than to open your mouth and remove all doubt!" "You can try to kill me, you'd fail!, but you can try!" - Revan. "When you have exhausted all other possibilities whatever remains, however improbable must be the truth." - Sherlock Holmes (a.k.a. Sir Arthur Conan Dole) "A lack of planning on your part, does not constitute an emergency on my part"
jaguars4ever Posted November 18, 2004 Posted November 18, 2004 Boy this gets old. Hades complaining about things he doesn't like, and pretty much all the other users complaining about Hades complaining. OMG... <{POST_SNAPBACK}> You forget another part of this "cycle". That being, someone makes a comment about it getting old. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> BWAAHAAAHAAAAA! (w00t) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Don't forget the part where Hades' sarcasm seems to mysteriously get lost in the translation of some dim-witted poster, who then constructs a lenghty lecture on the moral ambiguity of hypocrisy. Later someone equally dim-witted suggests the use of [sarcasm] tags. Repeat x5 :ph34r:
Barzarel Posted November 18, 2004 Posted November 18, 2004 Ouch, this is not good if i am dependent on them, usually if i play DS i always have presuade high since they more about deceit and trickery than jedi. Come to think of it i actually always have decent persuade with LS to since they about avoiding conflict when possible. I hope they consider adding at least 2-3skills per lvl instead of the 1-2 you got in kotor, since it is not affordable to raise int high. Since you need decent str to hit, good wisdom/charisma for force powers and persuade and con for survivability. If developers dont give ous more points at least give ous 2-4stat points to spend to gain it.
213374U Posted November 18, 2004 Posted November 18, 2004 Everyone's a comedian lately it seems... *sigh* - When he is best, he is a little worse than a man, and when he is worst, he is little better than a beast.
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