Darth Nuke Posted November 12, 2004 Posted November 12, 2004 Mandalore is 63 in Mandalorian years. Mandalorian is an affiliation. Kinda like saying "Rebels" or "Empire". They are human. How it worked, for those wondering, is that the Mandalorians were led by a warlord named Mandalore. That's where the Mandalorians got their name. Hell, Jengo Fett wasn't born a Mandalorian, he became one later on. Mandalorians are humans. Check the SW database: Canderous, look at the box on the right. So unless I'm missing something, Mandalorian is 63, in human years. anyone know, I couldn't find it, how old canderous was in K1? Kreia looks 50 alot younger than I thought <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Just because the Mandalorians Are human doesn't mean they don't age differently. Admiral Pellaeon is like 90 years old post ROTJ, but he looks early 60's. People from different planets age differently. Aragon from LOTR was some kind of human that aged slowly. KOTOR 2 must be completed
kumquatq3 Posted November 12, 2004 Posted November 12, 2004 Just because the Mandalorians Are human doesn't mean they don't age differently. Admiral Pellaeon is like 90 years old post ROTJ, but he looks early 60's. People from different planets age differently. Yes, tho if it's drastic enough of an aging difference to have to use a new system to compare ages then they prolly qualify to be a new species, but being a Mandalorian doesn't mean your from anywhere specific. It means your part of a club. While you can be a Madalorian and be from Mandalore, you can be a Mandalorian from Yavin IV. The planet doesn't nessasarily mean anything. Hell the planet was named after the people. You see, it's just a group of mercs who banded together. Aragon from LOTR was some kind of human that aged slowly. different universe, if it's even true
SilverSun Posted November 12, 2004 Posted November 12, 2004 different universe, if it's even true I agree on the different universe part. But it is true,I think he was 87,maybe 82. Pretty sure it was 80 something.
kumquatq3 Posted November 12, 2004 Posted November 12, 2004 But it is true,I think he was 87,maybe 82. Pretty sure it was 80 something. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I dunno, if it is, someone got a link or something?
Darth Nuke Posted November 12, 2004 Posted November 12, 2004 Just because the Mandalorians Are human doesn't mean they don't age differently. Admiral Pellaeon is like 90 years old post ROTJ, but he looks early 60's. People from different planets age differently. Yes, tho if it's drastic enough of an aging difference to have to use a new system to compare ages then they prolly qualify to be a new species, but being a Mandalorian doesn't mean your from anywhere specific. It means your part of a club. While you can be a Madalorian and be from Mandalore, you can be a Mandalorian from Yavin IV. The planet doesn't nessasarily mean anything. Hell the planet was named after the people. You see, it's just a group of mercs who banded together. Aragon from LOTR was some kind of human that aged slowly. different universe, if it's even true <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Well actually the Mandalorians are a Race of People, not a band. Mandalore and his warriors Conquered and Settled the Planet Mandalore, and the systems that would one day become the Mandalore Sector. This is proven more so because the Mandalore speak of their forefathers, and plus the first Mandalorians probably did a lot of banging, and so future generations formed. Canderous also speaks of HIS PEOPLE. Fenn Shysa the post Empire era Mandalore speaks of his people. The Mandalorians are a people. Also the Mandalorians aren't Mercs, they are crusaders and conqueres. Some become mercs, but all races have those who become Mercs. KOTOR 2 must be completed
kumquatq3 Posted November 12, 2004 Posted November 12, 2004 You guys might be right but Well actually the Mandalorians are a Race of People, not a band. Then why can humans join up and become Mandalorians? Ala Jango? I can't "become" Korean. So doesn't that mean they are a group rather than a race? Mandalore and his warriors Conquered and Settled the Planet Mandalore, and the systems that would one day become the Mandalore Sector. So they where did their "race" come from before that? I mean, they just didn't appear. You can start a new army/club/culture, it's a tad hard to found a new race. Specially in so little time. Canderous also speaks of HIS PEOPLE. Fenn Shysa the post Empire era Mandalore speaks of his people. The Mandalorians are a people. That can mean group or country/planet just as easily as race. Also the Mandalorians aren't Mercs, they are crusaders and conqueres. Some become mercs, but all races have those who become Mercs. I said mercs, didn't mean mercs
SilverSun Posted November 12, 2004 Posted November 12, 2004 I can't find any sort of link to a page that says it,however if in The Two Towers when he's helping the people of Rohan to Helms Deep and the blond woman(forgot her name) Goes to him and gives him some food they have a conversation in which his age is mentioned. And the Mandalores I always thought the same as you,but Nuke has all ready proved he knows a lot more about the Mandalores then I do so I'm not even going to try and argue that one.
kumquatq3 Posted November 12, 2004 Posted November 12, 2004 I can't find any sort of link to a page that says it,however if in The Two Towers when he's helping the people of Rohan to Helms Deep and the blond woman(forgot her name) Goes to him and gives him some food they have a conversation in which his age is mentioned. I meant proof about Mandalore And the Mandalores I always thought the same as you,but Nuke has all ready proved he knows a lot more about the Mandalores then I do so I'm not even going to try and argue that one. Thats fine. But his depiction of the Mandalorians seems to violate basic facts about them
SilverSun Posted November 12, 2004 Posted November 12, 2004 I meant proof about Mandalore My Bad. Thats fine. But his depiction of the Mandalorians seems to violate basic facts about them It's SW,basic facts don't always exist. I think certain people have joined the Mandalores. Such as Jango,who wasn't a Mandalore by birth I believe. So there might be a mix of people,which could pry have an effect on their life span,least the children born to such people. As for the normal life span of true Mandalore. I donno,my understanding of the Mandalores is limited because I never found a lot of interest in the group.
Darth Nuke Posted November 12, 2004 Posted November 12, 2004 I can't find any sort of link to a page that says it,however if in The Two Towers when he's helping the people of Rohan to Helms Deep and the blond woman(forgot her name) Goes to him and gives him some food they have a conversation in which his age is mentioned. I meant proof about Mandalore And the Mandalores I always thought the same as you,but Nuke has all ready proved he knows a lot more about the Mandalores then I do so I'm not even going to try and argue that one. Thats fine. But his depiction of the Mandalorians seems to violate basic facts about them <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Your basing it off Open Seasons. Open Seasons was about a group of Mercs lead by Jaster Mereel, not by Mandalore. Jango was taken in by Jaster, and was taught the ways of Mandalorian,but he isn't a Mandalorian. Those who come from Mandalore are full blooded lords of Mandalore. It's not known what Mandalore and his warriors were before the conquering of Mandalore, but after they became a people. Now I'm not saying that you can't become a Mandalore, but I'm saying that they are a race none the less. They are a people, not a Mercenary group. KOTOR 2 must be completed
Darth Nuke Posted November 12, 2004 Posted November 12, 2004 Oh and the Mandalorians started with a guy named Mandalore. Who loved his name so much, that he named his planet,people, sector, and other things after him. KOTOR 2 must be completed
GhostofAnakin Posted November 12, 2004 Posted November 12, 2004 Seeing as though we most likely won't get the ages of any of the characters, I thought it might be fun to speculate on it. Here are my guesses PC = Mid 20's Mira = Mid 20's Atton Rand = 28-36 Kreia = 40-50 Bao-Dur = 22-30 Mandalore = ? T3-M4 = ? Handmaiden = Early 20's Visas Marr = Early 20's Disciple = Early 20's HK-47 = Since the Mandalore War 20-30 Darth Sion = 40's Atris = Early 30's Darth Nihilus = ? Perhaps 40's Anyone else have any ideas? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I'd hope our PC is older than his/her 20's. Vet of the Mandalore wars plus being a Jedi before he left should put him at least in his 30's. "Console exclusive is such a harsh word." - Darque"Console exclusive is two words Darque." - Nartwak (in response to Darque's observation)
MASTER Posted November 12, 2004 Posted November 12, 2004 late 30's to mid 40's for pc really at the youngest
kumquatq3 Posted November 12, 2004 Posted November 12, 2004 I found this: http://www.mandalorianwarriors.com/jaster1 While it seems to suggest that you are right about the Jango thing, it suggest you are wrong about them being mercs. O, iirc, there was no one called Mandalore at this time. Jaster was the leader of the mandalorians. As for being a race humans: you can only be so different before your just not human. Can it really be that you age so drastically different from a human that you need a system to compare aging, yet your still human?
Carth Vader Posted November 12, 2004 Posted November 12, 2004 Can it really be that you age so drastically different from a human that you need a system to compare aging, yet your still human? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> A year on Earth is shorter than a year on Mars so maybe a year on Mandalore is shorter than a year on Coruscant which would make mandalorians old without altering the aging process.
SilverSun Posted November 12, 2004 Posted November 12, 2004 GOA:I'd hope our PC is older than his/her 20's. Vet of the Mandalore wars plus being a Jedi before he left should put him at least in his 30's. Master:late 30's to mid 40's for pc really at the youngest From the Casting Doc we sent to LucasArts... PC - varies, depending on what you want your character to look like. Atton Rand is 29-32. Handmaiden, Disciple, and Visas Marr are all 25. Kreia looks 50, but like Yoda, who knows. T3 was built in K1, so he's only had 5 years of hard living. Mandalore is 63 in Mandalorian years. Mira is 23. The others are not specifically referenced, but you can probably backtrack from their histories in the game to figure it out. From this topic by Chris A
Darth Nuke Posted November 12, 2004 Posted November 12, 2004 I found this: http://www.mandalorianwarriors.com/jaster1 While it seems to suggest that you are right about the Jango thing, it suggest you are wrong about them being mercs. O, iirc, there was no one called Mandalore at this time. Jaster was the leader of the mandalorians. As for being a race humans: you can only be so different before your just not human. Can it really be that you age so drastically different from a human that you need a system to compare aging, yet your still human? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Well that site is wrong. Jaster was the Leader of the Mandalorian Mercs, not the Mandalorians. the Mandalorians from Mandalore have already begun their fight in the Clone Wars. In issue 65 they are fighting. If you are to go by that site, then all the Mandalorians are dead. But issue 65 of republic proves that wrong,not to mention that the red masked warrior leads them. Jaster was just a leader of mercs, that got killed. KOTOR 2 must be completed
kumquatq3 Posted November 12, 2004 Posted November 12, 2004 Well that site is wrong. that site is just showing a scanned page from the comics you are refering too so either your wrong on this one, or the comics
GhostofAnakin Posted November 12, 2004 Posted November 12, 2004 GOA:I'd hope our PC is older than his/her 20's. Vet of the Mandalore wars plus being a Jedi before he left should put him at least in his 30's. Master:late 30's to mid 40's for pc really at the youngest From the Casting Doc we sent to LucasArts... PC - varies, depending on what you want your character to look like. Atton Rand is 29-32. Handmaiden, Disciple, and Visas Marr are all 25. Kreia looks 50, but like Yoda, who knows. T3 was built in K1, so he's only had 5 years of hard living. Mandalore is 63 in Mandalorian years. Mira is 23. The others are not specifically referenced, but you can probably backtrack from their histories in the game to figure it out. From this topic by Chris A <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Nice. Thanks. I think when I play thru I'm going to select a portrait that will look like he's in or near his 30's. It'll help me "feel" the part better. "Console exclusive is such a harsh word." - Darque"Console exclusive is two words Darque." - Nartwak (in response to Darque's observation)
forgion Posted November 12, 2004 Posted November 12, 2004 Seeing as though we most likely won't get the ages of any of the characters, I thought it might be fun to speculate on it. Anyone else have any ideas? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> From the Casting Doc we sent to LucasArts... PC - varies, depending on what you want your character to look like. Atton Rand is 29-32. Handmaiden, Disciple, and Visas Marr are all 25. Kreia looks 50, but like Yoda, who knows. T3 was built in K1, so he's only had 5 years of hard living. Mandalore is 63 in Mandalorian years. Mira is 23. The others are not specifically referenced, but you can probably backtrack from their histories in the game to figure it out. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Canderus starting fightingg at 18 .He fights for 40 years . So at KOTOR he 58 in Mandalorian years. 5 years has past from the KOTOR 1. So if 5 years are equal to Mandalorian years 58+5=63 So Mandalore might be Canderus.
Bastilla_Skywalker Posted November 12, 2004 Posted November 12, 2004 i have no idea at all Press Teh Button
213374U Posted November 12, 2004 Posted November 12, 2004 the Mandalorians from Mandalore have already begun their fight in the Clone Wars. In issue 65 they are fighting. If you are to go by that site, then all the Mandalorians are dead. But issue 65 of republic proves that wrong,not to mention that the red masked warrior leads them. Jaster was just a leader of mercs, that got killed. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Huh? Isn't #65 'Show of force'? I have read that one, in fact i've read the whole republic series as far as has been published, and I haven't seen any mandalorians. I must have missed them. Care to say exactly where is that red masked warrior leading the mandalorians? - When he is best, he is a little worse than a man, and when he is worst, he is little better than a beast.
envida Posted November 12, 2004 Posted November 12, 2004 Aragon from LOTR was some kind of human that aged slowly. different universe, if it's even true <{POST_SNAPBACK}> It's Aragorn and not Aragon Aragorn was in his 80's in the movies. He lived to be 210 years!. And is a descendent of the Numenorean
TTLan Posted January 22, 2011 Posted January 22, 2011 Hi Sir Chris Avellone From the Casting Doc we sent to LucasArts... PC - varies, depending on what you want your character to look like. Atton Rand is 29-32. Handmaiden, Disciple, and Visas Marr are all 25. Kreia looks 50, but like Yoda, who knows. T3 was built in K1, so he's only had 5 years of hard living. Mandalore is 63 in Mandalorian years. Mira is 23. The others are not specifically referenced, but you can probably backtrack from their histories in the game to figure it out. I think that for Brianna (Handmaiden), she is not 25. It is not possible according to some calculations that have been developed, in French, concerning the trial date of Arren Kae (which allows deducing the Brianna's birth date). http://assiste.free.fr/kotor_2/perso...s_de_arren_kae In essence, when exiled, Arren Kae joined her disciple, Revan, in the Trayus Academy. Revan discovered this Academy in 3963 BBY therefore the trial of Arren Kae takes place, at the earliest, in 3963 BBY. Can it take place later? In 3962 BBY or 3961 BBY BBY? No, because the trial is triggered by the discovery that Arren Kae has a girl of 10 at the time of trial. If the trial takes place in 3963 BBY, Brianna is 22 during KOTOR 2. If the trial takes place in 3962 BBY, Brianna is 21 during KOTOR 2. If the trial takes place in 3961 BBY, Brianna is 20 during KOTOR 2. As we can not rejuvenate Brianna below 22 years, we retain a trial date the earliest possible, either 3963 BBY, and so, Brianna's is 22 during KOTOR 2. Is this calculation wrong? Is there an element forgotten? Cordially TTLan
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