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The All Things Political Topic

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They bombed stuff on Kharg Island today. Guessing no TACO today, probably some half assed bombing campaign where they level a bridge.

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Canada, if you're listening, I hope you're able to put a bullet in this guy's brain

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Against stupidity we have no defense. Neither protests nor force can touch it. Reasoning is of no use. Facts that contradict personal prejudices can simply be disbelieved - indeed, the fool can counter by criticizing them, and if they are undeniable, they can just be pushed aside as trivial exceptions. So the fool, as distinct from the scoundrel, is completely self-satisfied. In fact, they can easily become dangerous, as it does not take much to make them aggressive. For that reason, greater caution is called for than with a malicious one. Never again will we try to persuade the stupid person with reasons, for it is senseless and dangerous.

*sigh* what a 🤡

Its embarrassing to read, like I have to peek between my own fingers when I see it.

Come on guys, it's obvious what has happened.

Trump has clearly consulted the Delphi of Oracle for advice, and been told that if he attacks Persia a great civilisation shall fall. He's just relaying that in his own inimitable style.

It would also be extremely on brand for Trump to ask an ai for cool sounding quotes from the richest guys in history, then miss the lesson on hubris.

all threat are empty now other than the big red button

hope someone rational still left in usa that can stop it

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"because they filled mommy with enough mythic power to become a demi-god" - KP

Doesn't even sound like Iran agreed to anything

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Supposedly, there's an Iranian 10 point plan floating about. Wouldn't be overly surprising if it were written by the Pakistani PM in the hope it works on both sides by osmosis.

Otherwise looks like Trump hitting all his classics.

  1. Commitment to non-aggression

  2. Continuation of Iran’s control over the Strait of Hormuz

  3. Acceptance of uranium enrichment

  4. Lifting of all primary sanctions

  5. Lifting of all secondary sanctions

  6. Termination of all UN Security Council resolutions

  7. Termination of all Board of Governors resolutions

  8. Payment of compensation to Iran

  9. Withdrawal of U.S. combat forces from the region

  10. Cessation of war on all fronts, including against Hezbollah in Lebanon

Guess Iran won then.

Thou shalt not make a machine in the likeness of a human mind.

Lebanon too, neat.

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  1. Guarantee that Iran will not be attacked again

  2. Permanent end to the war, not just a ceasefire

  3. End to Israeli strikes in Lebanon

  4. Lifting of all US sanctions on Iran

  5. End to all regional fighting against Iranian allies

  6. Iran would reopen the Strait of Hormuz

  7. Iran would impose a $2m fee per ship transiting Hormuz

  8. Iran would split these fees with Oman

  9. Iran would establish rules for safe passage through Hormuz

  10. Iran would use Hormuz fees for reconstruction instead of reparations

This sounds like a massive defeat for the US.

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No, no, you don't understand. America won! They successfully opened the strait of hormuz! Which was the goal of this war all along! (What do you mean it was opened before? Stop lying)

Anyways. I doubt this is the end of it. The way I see it, Israel will soon throw some missiles again, just because.

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54 minutes ago, Pidesco said:
  1. Guarantee that Iran will not be attacked again

  2. Permanent end to the war, not just a ceasefire

  3. End to Israeli strikes in Lebanon

  4. Lifting of all US sanctions on Iran

  5. End to all regional fighting against Iranian allies

  6. Iran would reopen the Strait of Hormuz

  7. Iran would impose a $2m fee per ship transiting Hormuz

  8. Iran would split these fees with Oman

  9. Iran would establish rules for safe passage through Hormuz

  10. Iran would use Hormuz fees for reconstruction instead of reparations

This sounds like a massive defeat for the US.

Those aren't the agreed on terms, those are ostensibly the Iranian terms and the US hasnt agreed to it

There is a 2 week ceasefire where the USA and Israel wont attack Iran and then the Straits will be open for shipping. Thats all that has been confirmed

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2026/apr/08/iran-10-point-plan-ceasefire-donald-trump-us

We already know Israels current conflict with Lebanon is not part of this. That list is just an Iranian wishlist and several points are not realistic, for example why would the US ever agree to withdrawing from the entire ME?

"What demands are in Iran’s 10-point plan?

According to state media, Iran will only accept the war’s conclusion once details are finalised in line with a 10-point peace plan reportedly submitted to the White House via Pakistani intermediaries.

The list of 10 points, published by Iranian state media, include a number of conditions the US has rejected in the past. The plan requires:

  • The lifting of all primary and secondary sanctions on Iran.

  • Continued Iranian control over the strait of Hormuz.

  • US military withdrawal from the Middle East.

  • An end to attacks on Iran and its allies.

  • The release of frozen Iranian assets.

  • A UN security council resolution making any deal binding.

In the version released in Farsi, Iran also included the phrase “acceptance of enrichment” for its nuclear program. But for reasons that remain unclear, that phrase was missing in English versions shared by Iranian diplomats to journalists."

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We haven't been talking about the upcoming Hungarian elections, 12 April

For the first time in his 16 year rule Orban faces a real challenge from Peter Magyar and his center right party Tisza

Orban is supported by Trump and Putin for different reasons but Hungarians will decide for themselves who wins. Polling has put Magyar ahead of Orban by more or less 10 points

For me I want Magyar to win, he is more pro-EU than Orban but he is not a liberal. That type of candidate aren't popular in Hungary but I still consider him a better leader that Orban who is a Russian sympathizer

Here is link that does into details around who Magyar is and his history

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Even among his supporters, the opposition leader is a polarizing figure.

"Abashed the devil stood and felt how awful goodness is and saw Virtue in her shape how lovely: and pined his loss”

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"We don't stop playing because we grow old; we grow old because we stop playing.” -  George Bernard Shaw

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ceasefire for lebanon would be violated immediately

still usa would agree to this in name itself is impressive

Bombs still falling. I guess only the civilization ending bombs are on a 2 week break.

"because they filled mommy with enough mythic power to become a demi-god" - KP

Looks like Israel is consistent about immediately breaking ceasefires.

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Iran: "Heres our wishlist"

Internet interpretation: "HAHAHAHAHAHA, USA LOST!"

I cant wait until our AI overlords take over. 🤦‍♂️

Its going to take a looooooooong time just to replace their navy a $2M / ship passage. lol

49 minutes ago, Gfted1 said:

Its going to take a looooooooong time just to replace their navy a $2M / ship passage. lol

I think you underestimate how many ships pass through there in a year.

"because they filled mommy with enough mythic power to become a demi-god" - KP

24 minutes ago, Sarex said:

I think you underestimate how many ships pass through there in a year.

The BBC estimates typically 138 ships per day during normal conditions...

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Strait of Hormuz: Which ships are passing through?

Just under 100 ships have passed thorough the Strait of Hormuz since the start of March, according to data analysed by BBC Verify.

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1 hour ago, Gfted1 said:

Iran: "Heres our wishlist"

Internet interpretation: "HAHAHAHAHAHA, USA LOST!"

I cant wait until our AI overlords take over. 🤦‍♂️

Its going to take a looooooooong time just to replace their navy a $2M / ship passage. lol

And that is the reaction from some , a completely unrealistic list of demands from Iran literally translates to " The US lost " !!!

On a serious note, what happened to the times or era where people had a genuine interest in only posting what is true or at least objectively true? There also use to be care about posting things that you at least verified were true or you believed ?

This war with Iran has become the worst example of shameless fake news and misinformation from people on both sides that I have ever experienced. Its like nothing I have ever see, many people just dont care about posting the most inane and vacuous SM comments or fake news. The Iranian war thread on Codex is a cesspool of this, you have no idea how bad it is grin

And Trump is also a big part of it because he is infamous for posting misinformation, fake news and sensationalized comments

"Abashed the devil stood and felt how awful goodness is and saw Virtue in her shape how lovely: and pined his loss”

John Milton 

"We don't stop playing because we grow old; we grow old because we stop playing.” -  George Bernard Shaw

"What counts in life is not the mere fact that we have lived. It is what difference we have made to the lives of others that will determine the significance of the life we lead" - Nelson Mandela

 

 

2 hours ago, Gfted1 said:

Iran: "Heres our wishlist"

Internet interpretation: "HAHAHAHAHAHA, USA LOST!"

I cant wait until our AI overlords take over. 🤦‍♂️

Its going to take a looooooooong time just to replace their navy a $2M / ship passage. lol

Americans always boil a war down to K/D. I guess leftover from Vietnam.

Iraniam navy before the war didn't seem to be full of big ships, so may not be too difficult to replace it enough to be back to being a threat to shipping.

Edited by Malcador

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24 minutes ago, BruceVC said:

And that is the reaction from some , a completely unrealistic list of demands from Iran literally translates to " The US lost " !!!

On a serious note, what happened to the times or era where people had a genuine interest in only posting what is true or at least objectively true? There also use to be care about posting things that you at least verified were true or you believed ?

This war with Iran has become the worst example of shameless fake news and misinformation from people on both sides that I have ever experienced. Its like nothing I have ever see, many people just dont care about posting the most inane and vacuous SM comments or fake news. The Iranian war thread on Codex is a cesspool of this, you have no idea how bad it is grin

And Trump is also a big part of it because he is infamous for posting misinformation, fake news and sensationalized comments

Again who cares what the Kodex thinks.

Why has elegance found so little following? Elegance has the disadvantage that hard work is needed to achieve it and a good education to appreciate it. - Edsger Wybe Dijkstra

50 minutes ago, BruceVC said:

On a serious note, what happened to the times or era where people had a genuine interest in only posting what is true or at least objectively true? There also use to be care about posting things that you at least verified were true or you believed ?

Its been fully replaced by sh**posting. The goal isnt the exchange of conversation, its to WIN!!

32 minutes ago, Malcador said:

Americans always boil a war down to K/D. I guess leftover from Vietnam.

Do Canadians boil it down to toll booth revenues? Perhaps chants of "pretty please leave the ME"? A couple of birds shot down? Whats the criteria?

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