Gfted1 Posted November 6 Posted November 6 2 minutes ago, BruceVC said: If Trump had been killed he would have become a martyr and the GOP possibly gaining more support from the " Deep State " crowd I disagree. Imo, the head would have been cut from the snake and the whole movement would have died in its tracks. Generally speaking, I dont support death by lead poisoning but Im willing to make an exception in this case. Vance wouldnt even exist without Trump. 3 1 "I'm your biggest fan, Ill follow you until you love me, Papa"
Malcador Posted November 6 Posted November 6 9 minutes ago, BruceVC said: If Trump had been killed he would have become a martyr and the GOP possibly gaining more support from the " Deep State " crowd And that wouldnt have changed the core issues that Americans voted on? And imagine Vance as president, thats worse than Trump IMO Trump is MAGA, doesn't exist without him, so if he's gone, enthusiasm would dip. 1 Why has elegance found so little following? Elegance has the disadvantage that hard work is needed to achieve it and a good education to appreciate it. - Edsger Wybe Dijkstra
HoonDing Posted November 6 Posted November 6 (edited) AOC 2028! Edited November 6 by HoonDing 2 The ending of the words is ALMSIVI.
Gfted1 Posted November 6 Posted November 6 2 minutes ago, HoonDing said: AOC 2028! You son of a B, Im in. She supports UHC, UBI, UFH and UFE all of which are fundamental life necessities that Im owed by my birthright. At least IL went blue. 1 1 "I'm your biggest fan, Ill follow you until you love me, Papa"
Malcador Posted November 6 Posted November 6 Biden should resign, let Kamala get the job for a while 1 Why has elegance found so little following? Elegance has the disadvantage that hard work is needed to achieve it and a good education to appreciate it. - Edsger Wybe Dijkstra
Pidesco Posted November 6 Posted November 6 Quote What doesn’t seem warranted any longer are the warnings, alerts, and cautions about what lies ahead. You’ve heard those from me for more than a year. The whole country heard similar warnings from multiple quarters. It was loud and clear. The campaign was fought directly over the issues of democracy, rule of law, basic decency and respect, and protection for the marginalized. Those principles and values lost and lost badly. You might be taken aback by me finding silver linings in this result but I do think there are two of them. First, the dark path ahead was chosen clearly and unequivocally: With 51%, Trump is on track to win a majority of the popular vote. Second, Trump will win without undue reliance on the quirks of our 18th century anti-majoritarian constitutional structure. There is clarity in that result. This is who we are. Not all of us, but a majority of us. It presents a stark picture of America in 2024, without sugarcoating or excuse. It makes it harder to fool yourself about the task at hand, which is an enormous cultural one more than a political one. Donald Trump’s win isn’t the product of a constitutional quirk. It’s not the result of a poorly conceived or executed campaign by Kamala Harris. It’s not a messaging failure or a tactical error or a strategic blunder. Other broader dynamics at play – like a post-pandemic revulsion toward incumbents or an anti-inflation backlash – are too limited in their scope and specific in their focus to account for the choice that was made: Donald Trump. It would be a category error to ascribe our current predicament to a political failure. If politics is merely a reflection of culture, then we get to see that reflection clearly and sharply as the sun comes up this morning. If you don’t like what you see, don’t blame the mirror. From TPM. "My hovercraft is full of eels!" - Hungarian tourist I am Dan Quayle of the Romans. I want to tattoo a map of the Netherlands on my nether lands. Heja Sverige!! Everyone should cuffawkle more. The wrench is your friend.
uuuhhii Posted November 6 Posted November 6 so usa is over anti vaxer will be running health soon the bigger problem is can the rest of the world survive failure of usa
HoonDing Posted November 6 Posted November 6 For all the bruhaha about Iowa and Texas, Trump actually nearly flipped New Jersey and had a chance even in New York. The ending of the words is ALMSIVI.
PK htiw klaw eriF Posted November 6 Posted November 6 1 hour ago, Malcador said: Think they'll remedy this by going to the right ? I mean more than likely that's what they're going to try, I do not think it's going to work. "Akiva Goldsman and Alex Kurtzman run the 21st century version of MK ULTRA." - majestic "you're a damned filthy lying robot and you deserve to die and burn in hell." - Bartimaeus "Without individual thinking you can't notice the plot holes." - InsaneCommander "Just feed off the suffering of gamers." - Malcador "You are calling my taste crap." -Hurlshort "thankfully it seems like the creators like Hungary less this time around." - Sarex "Don't forget the wakame, dumbass" -Keyrock "Are you trolling or just being inadvertently nonsensical?' -Pidesco "we have already been forced to admit you are at least human" - uuuhhii "I refuse to buy from non-woke businesses" - HoonDing "feral camels are now considered a pest" - Gorth "Melkathi is known to be an overly critical grumpy person" - Melkathi "Oddly enough Sanderson was a lot more direct despite being a Mormon" - Zoraptor "I found it greatly disturbing to scroll through my cartoon's halfing selection of genitalias." - Wormerine "I love cheese despite the pain and carnage." - ShadySands
Pidesco Posted November 6 Posted November 6 What still surprises me is how so many people have an idea of Trump that does not track with reality in any way. Despite what he is being right there in everything he says and does openly and plainly. 1 "My hovercraft is full of eels!" - Hungarian tourist I am Dan Quayle of the Romans. I want to tattoo a map of the Netherlands on my nether lands. Heja Sverige!! Everyone should cuffawkle more. The wrench is your friend.
Lexx Posted November 6 Posted November 6 Spoiler Democrats didn't show up to vote. 1 "only when you no-life you can exist forever, because what does not live cannot die."
Hurlshort Posted November 6 Posted November 6 1 hour ago, Gfted1 said: I disagree. Imo, the head would have been cut from the snake and the whole movement would have died in its tracks. Generally speaking, I dont support death by lead poisoning but Im willing to make an exception in this case. Vance wouldnt even exist without Trump. The guy is almost 80 and eats McDonalds regularly. Natural causes have a good chance of running their course over the next 4 years. We should probably watch that Vance movie on Netflix to figure out what his deal is.
uuuhhii Posted November 6 Posted November 6 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Hurlshort said: The guy is almost 80 and eats McDonalds regularly. Natural causes have a good chance of running their course over the next 4 years. We should probably watch that Vance movie on Netflix to figure out what his deal is. funny now people have to hope expired orange live for 4 more year vance would likely be worse than reagan and trump combined Edited November 6 by uuuhhii
Malcador Posted November 6 Posted November 6 9 minutes ago, Hurlshort said: The guy is almost 80 and eats McDonalds regularly. Natural causes have a good chance of running their course over the next 4 years. We should probably watch that Vance movie on Netflix to figure out what his deal is. The reaction to his death will be something, will have MAGAs crying in the street Why has elegance found so little following? Elegance has the disadvantage that hard work is needed to achieve it and a good education to appreciate it. - Edsger Wybe Dijkstra
HoonDing Posted November 6 Posted November 6 I can't bring myself to dislike Vance. The ending of the words is ALMSIVI.
Azdeus Posted November 6 Posted November 6 1 hour ago, Pidesco said: What still surprises me is how so many people have an idea of Trump that does not track with reality in any way. Despite what he is being right there in everything he says and does openly and plainly. I'm not surprised to be honest, sorry but yanks in general are pretty gorram dumb. Civilization, in fact, grows more and more maudlin and hysterical; especially under democracy it tends to degenerate into a mere combat of crazes; the whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed (and hence clamorous to be led to safety) by menacing it with an endless series of hobgoblins, most of them imaginary. - H.L. Mencken
Malcador Posted November 6 Posted November 6 5 minutes ago, Azdeus said: I'm not surprised to be honest, sorry but yanks in general are pretty gorram dumb. 1 Why has elegance found so little following? Elegance has the disadvantage that hard work is needed to achieve it and a good education to appreciate it. - Edsger Wybe Dijkstra
Pidesco Posted November 6 Posted November 6 23 minutes ago, Azdeus said: I'm not surprised to be honest, sorry but yanks in general are pretty gorram dumb. I'm not talking about Americans or even just Americans who voted for Trump, though. It's the same here in Europe. Or say, entirely randomly, in places like South Africa. 2 "My hovercraft is full of eels!" - Hungarian tourist I am Dan Quayle of the Romans. I want to tattoo a map of the Netherlands on my nether lands. Heja Sverige!! Everyone should cuffawkle more. The wrench is your friend.
Gfted1 Posted November 6 Posted November 6 37 minutes ago, Azdeus said: I'm not surprised to be honest, sorry but yanks in general are pretty gorram dumb. Its because we dont have UFE. 1 1 "I'm your biggest fan, Ill follow you until you love me, Papa"
Zoraptor Posted November 6 Posted November 6 Wonder when the Democrats are going to work out that trotting out the Liz Cheneys of the world isn't going to get them votes and may actually cost them some- and definitely will cost them enthusiasm among those who should be voting for them. Yeah, never, since the leadership prefers ludicrous neocons to their own supporters. Or that not being Trump isn't really an actual strategy. At least the last one isn't likely to be in play in 2028. Still think Harris was a decent enough candidate hamstrung by bad party policy and strategy plus no one being willing to have the Difficult Conversation with Biden a year ago; though she's certainly done a lot worse than I expected. At least I'm not a professional pundit, a lot of them should be re examining their career choices, again. 3 hours ago, Pidesco said: From TPM. Another relevant TPM quote about Trump's Presidency Quote This is getting out of hand, now there are two of them. 2
Lexx Posted November 6 Posted November 6 (edited) Kissinger lived until 100. Wouldn't surprise me if Trump just doesn't die either. Edited November 6 by Lexx 1 "only when you no-life you can exist forever, because what does not live cannot die."
Hurlshort Posted November 6 Posted November 6 I wonder if maybe Biden stepped aside too early? Kamala had a big bump right when they switched, and it faded. But hey, armchair quarterbacking won't change the results.
rjshae Posted November 6 Posted November 6 10 minutes ago, Hurlshort said: I wonder if maybe Biden stepped aside too early? Kamala had a big bump right when they switched, and it faded. But hey, armchair quarterbacking won't change the results. I think Biden would just have lost by a larger margin. His polls were scraping bottom at 38.5% approval rating; they flipped back in 2021 (with the withdrawal from Afghanistan) and have never recovered. There was nobody else to step into his place other than Harris, and she and Biden controlled the campaign budget. If there had been more time, maybe Harris could have built more of a coalition. She gave it a good run, given the limited time available. 1 "It has just been discovered that research causes cancer in rats."
Raithe Posted November 6 Posted November 6 One of the German papers has a single word as their headline. It starts with F and ends in K. 1 "Cuius testiculos habeas, habeas cardia et cerebellum."
rjshae Posted November 6 Posted November 6 5 minutes ago, Raithe said: One of the German papers has a single word as their headline. It starts with F and ends in K. Fabrik? 1 "It has just been discovered that research causes cancer in rats."
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