Lexx Posted July 4 Posted July 4 Where are those smart people who can explain to me how Donald Trump is actually not a threat and everything will be just fine if he gets elected. "only when you no-life you can exist forever, because what does not live cannot die."
Azdeus Posted July 4 Posted July 4 Jikes Civilization, in fact, grows more and more maudlin and hysterical; especially under democracy it tends to degenerate into a mere combat of crazes; the whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed (and hence clamorous to be led to safety) by menacing it with an endless series of hobgoblins, most of them imaginary. - H.L. Mencken
HoonDing Posted July 5 Posted July 5 So I said, ‘Let me ask you a question, and [the guy who makes boats in South Carolina] said, ‘Nobody ever asked this question,’ and it must be because of MIT, my relationship to MIT —very smart. He goes, I say, ‘What would happen if the boat sank from its weight? And you’re in the boat and you have this tremendously powerful battery and the battery is now underwater and there’s a shark that’s approximately 10 yards over there?’ By the way, a lot of shark attacks lately, do you notice that, a lot of sharks? I watched some guys justifying it today. ‘Well, they weren’t really that angry. They bit off the young lady’s leg because of the fact that they were, they were not hungry, but they misunderstood what who she was.’ These people are crazy. He said there’s no problem with sharks. ‘They just didn’t really understand a young woman swimming now.’ It really got decimated and other people do a lot of shark attacks. So I said, so there’s a shark 10 yards away from the boat, 10 yards or here, do I get electrocuted if the boat is sinking? Water goes over the battery, the boat is sinking. Do I stay on top of the boat and get electrocuted, or do I jump over by the shark and not get electrocuted? Because I will tell you, he didn’t know the answer. He said, ‘You know, nobody’s ever asked me that question.” I said, ‘I think it’s a good question.’ I think there’s a lot of electric current coming through that water. But you know what I’d do if there was a shark or you get electrocuted, I’ll take electrocution every single time. I’m not getting near the shark. So we’re going to end that. The ending of the words is ALMSIVI.
BruceVC Posted July 5 Author Posted July 5 8 hours ago, Lexx said: Where are those smart people who can explain to me how Donald Trump is actually not a threat and everything will be just fine if he gets elected. What do you think Trump is going to do if he wins in November, what concerns you the most? Im concerned more with his foreign policy decisions like NATO membership and aid for Ukraine I cant see Israel aid changing and we will probably see more escalating tension towards China and Iran? "Abashed the devil stood and felt how awful goodness is and saw Virtue in her shape how lovely: and pined his loss” John Milton "We don't stop playing because we grow old; we grow old because we stop playing.” - George Bernard Shaw "What counts in life is not the mere fact that we have lived. It is what difference we have made to the lives of others that will determine the significance of the life we lead" - Nelson Mandela
Lexx Posted July 5 Posted July 5 (edited) 1 minute ago, BruceVC said: What do you think Trump is going to do if he wins in November, what concerns you the most? Have you heard about literally anything he says? Additionally, there is that funny Project 2025 making its rounds right now. Edited July 5 by Lexx "only when you no-life you can exist forever, because what does not live cannot die."
Zoraptor Posted July 5 Posted July 5 (edited) Unsurprisingly the Tories have lost the election in Britain. Moderate lols at both Farage and Corbyn winning, and Truss losing. Big lols at Keir Starmer being described as 'left wing' when he's the dictionary definition of milquetoast moderate. Guess at least Rishi Sunak can console himself with the thought that he's still richer than his head of state. Edited July 5 by Zoraptor 1
BruceVC Posted July 5 Author Posted July 5 7 minutes ago, Lexx said: Have you heard about literally anything he says? Additionally, there is that funny Project 2025 making its rounds right now. Yes I have heard lots of things Trump says, that doesnt mean he is going to do these things which is why I asked you what concerns you the most? And I had never heard of Project 2025 but I looked it up now https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c977njnvq2do Some outrageous suggestions including " Under the proposals, pornography would be banned, and tech and telecoms companies that facilitate access to such content would be shut down " How dare they consider banning porn "Abashed the devil stood and felt how awful goodness is and saw Virtue in her shape how lovely: and pined his loss” John Milton "We don't stop playing because we grow old; we grow old because we stop playing.” - George Bernard Shaw "What counts in life is not the mere fact that we have lived. It is what difference we have made to the lives of others that will determine the significance of the life we lead" - Nelson Mandela
BruceVC Posted July 5 Author Posted July 5 1 minute ago, Zoraptor said: Unsurprisingly the Tories have lost the election in Britain. Moderate lols at both Farage and Corbyn winning, and Truss losing. Big lols at Keir Starmer being described as 'left wing' when he's the dictionary definition of milquetoast moderate. Guess at least Rishi Sunak can console himself with the thought that he's still richer than his head of state. Yes, it was a predicted loss for the Conservatives It will be interesting to see what fundamental, if any, changes Labour makes But Democracy is the winner, if you not happy with leadership you can use the ballet box to make your unhappiness realized "Abashed the devil stood and felt how awful goodness is and saw Virtue in her shape how lovely: and pined his loss” John Milton "We don't stop playing because we grow old; we grow old because we stop playing.” - George Bernard Shaw "What counts in life is not the mere fact that we have lived. It is what difference we have made to the lives of others that will determine the significance of the life we lead" - Nelson Mandela
Elerond Posted July 5 Posted July 5 8 hours ago, BruceVC said: Yes, it was a predicted loss for the Conservatives It will be interesting to see what fundamental, if any, changes Labour makes But Democracy is the winner, if you not happy with leadership you can use the ballet box to make your unhappiness realized I am not sure if democracy is winner when party that gets 1/3 of votes gets 2/3 of the seats 1
melkathi Posted July 5 Posted July 5 If anything, it demonstrates another extremely flawed system. Happy Corbyn did well. Not surprised but still disappointed Galloway didn't. Congratulations to Ayoub Khan who won in my old neighbourhood. 1 Unobtrusively informing you about my new ebook (which you should feel free to read and shower with praise).
uuuhhii Posted July 5 Posted July 5 uk didn't really learn anything from last 50 years they are still voting tory and newer worse tory in great number
Zoraptor Posted July 5 Posted July 5 Don't know if proportional representation would work that well in the UK, certainly not MMP type. It'd probably just result in the libdems getting eviscerated for (not) going into coalition with the wrong people like always happens to the centre party here. They've barely recovered from Clegg's decision and there would be even more pressure to choose under MMP. And it's unfortunately unlikely politicians would ever go for something actually decent like multi member STV since it weakens parties, unlike MMP. In most other circumstances 34% would be a dismal result for Labour and they must still be concerned about the number of people in their traditional heartland who have not come back. It's likely the tories can get a lot of the reform vote back but it may be permanently lost to a Labour party that isn't even chardonnay socialist any more.
Pidesco Posted July 5 Posted July 5 15 hours ago, BruceVC said: Yes I have heard lots of things Trump says, that doesnt mean he is going to do these things which is why I asked you what concerns you the most? And I had never heard of Project 2025 but I looked it up now https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c977njnvq2do Some outrageous suggestions including " Under the proposals, pornography would be banned, and tech and telecoms companies that facilitate access to such content would be shut down " How dare they consider banning porn 1 "My hovercraft is full of eels!" - Hungarian tourist I am Dan Quayle of the Romans. I want to tattoo a map of the Netherlands on my nether lands. Heja Sverige!! Everyone should cuffawkle more. The wrench is your friend.
Malcador Posted July 5 Posted July 5 Civil War was an interesting movie. Why has elegance found so little following? Elegance has the disadvantage that hard work is needed to achieve it and a good education to appreciate it. - Edsger Wybe Dijkstra
Bartimaeus Posted July 6 Posted July 6 (edited) Um, I don't think this whole Biden re-election thing is working out. It really kind of sounds like he's lost his marbles. Now, Biden without his marbles is still approximately...let me check here, oh yes, infinitely better than Trump, but I'm not certain that's going to get the guy re-elected. Actually, I'm pretty sure that the more he talks in public, the less likely he will be. Edited July 6 by Bartimaeus 1 Quote How I have existed fills me with horror. For I have failed in everything - spelling, arithmetic, riding, tennis, golf; dancing, singing, acting; wife, mistress, whore, friend. Even cooking. And I do not excuse myself with the usual escape of 'not trying'. I tried with all my heart. In my dreams, I am not crippled. In my dreams, I dance.
PK htiw klaw eriF Posted July 6 Posted July 6 It's funny that Trump will probably win because the dems couldn't convince Biden to go home and their uncritical support for Israel's slaughter of Gaza alienates key blocs they need to win. They have been screaming that this is the most important election in the history of elections but can't make a single tactical move to try to help their electoral chances, let alone attempt to curtail Trump and Leonard Leo's goons in any other way. Honestly it's just pathetic to watch a party this bad at real politics being the only electoral bulwark against the most abominable political ghouls still breathing. I dunno, maybe an economic crash happens with Trump/Project 2025 and Marx or Bakunin gets proved right. There's probably more of a chance of thay happening than the dems getting their **** together. 1 "Akiva Goldsman and Alex Kurtzman run the 21st century version of MK ULTRA." - majestic "you're a damned filthy lying robot and you deserve to die and burn in hell." - Bartimaeus "Without individual thinking you can't notice the plot holes." - InsaneCommander "Just feed off the suffering of gamers." - Malcador "You are calling my taste crap." -Hurlshort "thankfully it seems like the creators like Hungary less this time around." - Sarex "Don't forget the wakame, dumbass" -Keyrock "Are you trolling or just being inadvertently nonsensical?' -Pidesco "we have already been forced to admit you are at least human" - uuuhhii "I refuse to buy from non-woke businesses" - HoonDing "feral camels are now considered a pest" - Gorth "Melkathi is known to be an overly critical grumpy person" - Melkathi "Oddly enough Sanderson was a lot more direct despite being a Mormon" - Zoraptor "I found it greatly disturbing to scroll through my cartoon's halfing selection of genitalias." - Wormerine "I love cheese despite the pain and carnage." - ShadySands
BruceVC Posted July 6 Author Posted July 6 (edited) 17 hours ago, Pidesco said: Yes but again, the Heritage Foundation does not define what Trump can and will implement. Project 2025 is there blueprint and most of these ideas are far too extreme for Trump to want to implement Its different if Trump said " my presidency is going to be about Project 2025 '' then we should be very concerned. But at the moment there is no need for fearmongering Edited July 6 by BruceVC "Abashed the devil stood and felt how awful goodness is and saw Virtue in her shape how lovely: and pined his loss” John Milton "We don't stop playing because we grow old; we grow old because we stop playing.” - George Bernard Shaw "What counts in life is not the mere fact that we have lived. It is what difference we have made to the lives of others that will determine the significance of the life we lead" - Nelson Mandela
Elerond Posted July 6 Posted July 6 (edited) 5 hours ago, BruceVC said: Yes but again, the Heritage Foundation does not define what Trump can and will implement. Project 2025 is there blueprint and most of these ideas are far too extreme for Trump to want to implement Its different if Trump said " my presidency is going to be about Project 2025 '' then we should be very concerned. But at the moment there is no need for fearmongering If we look Trump's first term, we can say there isn't ideas that are too extreme for the Trump. Question is more about how much support he gets in congress to push the ideas. Trump himself is principleless vane that goes where wind (his base's opinion) at that moment blows. Edited July 6 by Elerond 1 1
Pidesco Posted July 6 Posted July 6 2 hours ago, BruceVC said: Yes but again, the Heritage Foundation does not define what Trump can and will implement. Project 2025 is there blueprint and most of these ideas are far too extreme for Trump to want to implement Its different if Trump said " my presidency is going to be about Project 2025 '' then we should be very concerned. But at the moment there is no need for fearmongering Even just 1 or 2 points on that list would be a catastrophe for the US. In any case, Trump is easily manipulated. If the right people have access to him, a lot can be made to happen. 1 1 1 "My hovercraft is full of eels!" - Hungarian tourist I am Dan Quayle of the Romans. I want to tattoo a map of the Netherlands on my nether lands. Heja Sverige!! Everyone should cuffawkle more. The wrench is your friend.
Lexx Posted July 6 Posted July 6 39 minutes ago, Pidesco said: In any case, Trump is easily manipulated. Just pay him money and it's a done deal. This guy is not for the US, but for Trump and Trump only. Let's be real, he would sell out everyone around him in a heartbeat as long as he gets something out of it. 1 1 1 "only when you no-life you can exist forever, because what does not live cannot die."
Gorth Posted July 7 Posted July 7 8 hours ago, Lexx said: Just pay him money and it's a done deal. This guy is not for the US, but for Trump and Trump only. Let's be real, he would sell out everyone around him in a heartbeat as long as he gets something out of it. Not even money... he loves adoration. Stroke his ego and any decision, no matter how inane, is yours. Notice how his role models are people like Kim, Putin, Modi and previously Bolsonaro etc.? He completely buys into the lie, that those autocrats are loved by their subjects. It's why he wants to be one too... “He who joyfully marches to music in rank and file has already earned my contempt. He has been given a large brain by mistake, since for him the spinal cord would surely suffice.” - Albert Einstein
melkathi Posted July 7 Posted July 7 And yet, his voters do love him. And if he were to totally copy Kim, there'd be a lot less US meddling in the rest of the world. He'd be far more suitable for a Noble Peace Prize than Obama ever was. Unobtrusively informing you about my new ebook (which you should feel free to read and shower with praise).
HoonDing Posted July 7 Posted July 7 Drump would pretty much confine the warmongering to the American continent. Like with that Venezuela coup and Mexico invasion nonsense. The ending of the words is ALMSIVI.
BruceVC Posted July 8 Author Posted July 8 (edited) Interesting French election outcome, the general global media got these predictions wrong where they made assumptions that RN would win the second round The bogey man of the " French far right " ruling France is subdued again Here is a good interview with Le Pen where she explains somethings to Christiane Amanpour about the RN and what they stand for and how they not the same as US " far right " Edited July 8 by BruceVC "Abashed the devil stood and felt how awful goodness is and saw Virtue in her shape how lovely: and pined his loss” John Milton "We don't stop playing because we grow old; we grow old because we stop playing.” - George Bernard Shaw "What counts in life is not the mere fact that we have lived. It is what difference we have made to the lives of others that will determine the significance of the life we lead" - Nelson Mandela
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