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PK htiw klaw eriF

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https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/trump-suggesting-ron-desantis-pedophile-1234675596/?multiTest2017root

Lmao

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Gfted1

Gfted1

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13 hours ago, Gromnir said:

am not knowing but am suspecting near all chinese satellites is known quantities and US and allies is aware to the second when they will be passing over ___________ or ___________.  the chinese balloons obvious move slower, but is also gonna be more difficult to predict days, weeks and months ahead when and exact where such is gonna be in part 'cause weather baffles even the best soopercomputer models.

Thats a good point. I think I was figuring the satellites are in geosynchronous orbit so they were always hovering above the US, but youre probably right.

4 hours ago, Sarex said:

To make things even more funny, he was part of the Kosovo office.

Was it Nazi porn too? :lol:

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Malcador

Malcador

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1 hour ago, Space KP, Baby said:

https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/trump-suggesting-ron-desantis-pedophile-1234675596/?multiTest2017root

Lmao

US politics is going to end up like chat in Counterstrike

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PK htiw klaw eriF

PK htiw klaw eriF

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1 hour ago, Malcador said:

US politics is going to end up like chat in Counterstrike

Good.

"Akiva Goldsman and Alex Kurtzman run the 21st century version of MK ULTRA." - majestic

"you're a damned filthy lying robot and you deserve to die and burn in hell." - Bartimaeus

"Without individual thinking you can't notice the plot holes." - InsaneCommander

"Just feed off the suffering of gamers." - Malcador

"You are calling my taste crap." -Hurlshort

"thankfully it seems like the creators like Hungary less this time around." - Sarex

"Don't forget the wakame, dumbass" -Keyrock

"Are you trolling or just being inadvertently nonsensical?' -Pidesco

"we have already been forced to admit you are at least human" - uuuhhii

"I refuse to buy from non-woke businesses" - HoonDing

"feral camels are now considered a pest" - Gorth

"Melkathi is known to be an overly critical grumpy person" - Melkathi

"Oddly enough Sanderson was a lot more direct despite being a Mormon" - Zoraptor

"I found it greatly disturbing to scroll through my cartoon's halfing selection of genitalias." - Wormerine

"I love cheese despite the pain and carnage." - ShadySands

Gromnir

Gromnir

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5 hours ago, Gfted1 said:

Thats a good point. I think I was figuring the satellites are in geosynchronous orbit so they were always hovering above the US, but youre probably right.

 

fyi, geosynchronous is a misunderstood term. geosynchronous involves an orbit period o' one day and is necessarily at 42 thousand  kilometers from the earth center, or almost 35 thousand km above the earth. geosynchronous is not necessarily gonna remain at a fixed point above the earth unless the satellite is located above the equator which results in geostationary.

example picture o' a geosynchronous orbit path. 

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am suspecting the bigger hurdle for a geosynchronous spy satellite meant to provide useful image data is the +22 thousand miles distant from the surface o' the earth the satellite needs be.  twenty-two thousand miles is a serious distance with all kinda atmospheric interference 'tween the satellite and the target. 

again, am talking w/o any real knowledge whatsoever 'bout spy satellites, but am understanding a bit o' the physics and thinking distances for geosynchronous is way beyond the range o' useful images which could be collected. hundreds o' miles? yeah, sure, but 22k miles?

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Zoraptor

Zoraptor

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Even LEO satellites hit a resolution wall. IIRC that's with using 'tricks' like interferometry as well. It's a pretty good resolution limit but you can still get better with something closer that also doesn't have to go through so much atmosphere. That just tends to be less convenient and more prone to being shot down/ being seen as a potential act of war. The other factor is that atmosphere can scatter and absorb some EM emissions, and they tend to weaken exponentially. Being a tenth the distance in a balloon (or drone) --> 100x the signal power if I remember my 6th form physics correctly.

BruceVC

BruceVC

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On 2/7/2023 at 3:19 PM, Gfted1 said:

I feel confident that China's reconnaissance satellites have the resolution to watch me type this post. If theyre using balloons as their primary then theyve already lost the next two wars. :lol: But I cant think of any reason why they would use this method. We will never find out but I would love to know what the U2 snooped. Bet they werent expecting that!

I didnt realize it but spy balloons do have certain advantages over satellites used for spying. This link highlights it 

https://breakingdefense.com/2023/02/balloons-vs-satellites-popping-some-misconceptions-about-capability-and-legality/ 

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BruceVC

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So local SA political drama, last night was our SONA (state of the nation address ) and the EFF, Economic Freedom Fighters,  tried to storm the stage and they got thrown out. It was classic and even though irritating what the EFF tried to do it provided much entertainment. The EFF are our anti-white, "socialist ",  far  left  revolutionary party and the funniest thing about this was their leader ranting and raving on the street outside while SONA continued 

 

 

"Abashed the devil stood and felt how awful goodness is and saw Virtue in her shape how lovely: and pined his loss”

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"We don't stop playing because we grow old; we grow old because we stop playing.” -  George Bernard Shaw

"What counts in life is not the mere fact that we have lived. It is what difference we have made to the lives of others that will determine the significance of the life we lead" - Nelson Mandela

 

 

Lexx

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That train crash in Ohio seems pretty serious. I'm a bit surprised how little it is being talked about.

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Malcador

Malcador

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27 minutes ago, Lexx said:

That train crash in Ohio seems pretty serious. I'm a bit surprised how little it is being talked about.

Was briefly on the news here.  https://globalnews.ca/news/9482709/ohio-train-chemical-explosion-east-palestine/

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Gromnir

Gromnir

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the train derailment were big news... on fox and friends. somehow the accident and the cleanup efforts were all the fault o' pete buttigieg.  

other than fox, the accident were covered national and were a top story at cnn and npr when we checked yesterday. can't speak for other sources as we didn't check save for the washington post with didn't give it much attention. 

the lack of fatalities (unless you count fish) reduced the impact of the story in a 24/7 news cycle. there was a mass shooting at msu yesterday and following the chinese balloon incident, people are inordinate interested in ufo sightings, particular when the US military is shooting at such objects over kanada .

the indefinite long-term consequences o' the train crash also make it difficult to report useful and lurid info which titillates as the dangers, particular after evacuations, is less immediate life-threatening and more you might die of cancer at some point in the future, maybe. 

HA! Good Fun!

"If there be time to expose through discussion the falsehood and fallacies, to avert the evil by the processes of education, the remedy to be applied is more speech, not enforced silence."Justice Louis Brandeis, Concurring, Whitney v. California, 274 U.S. 357 (1927)

"Im indifferent to almost any murder as long as it doesn't affect me or mine."--Gfted1 (September 30, 2019)

Sarex

Sarex

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We joked about it, but the balloon wars have really started.

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Malcador

Malcador

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29 minutes ago, Gfted1 said:

I more surprised they shot a Sidewinder at a balloon, but not that one missed.

Well, cannons might not be effective. RCAF dumped a lot of rounds into one once  and it didn't work.  https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/weather-balloon-canada-china-1.6737831

Sidewinder is just the cost effective example, I guess

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ShadySands

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I think the HELIOS has a range of about 5 miles and that is at 60kW. Finding laser ranges has been harder to come by than I expected but I suspect even the lower objects may too high (far) to effectively engage.

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Gorth

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1 hour ago, Gfted1 said:

Yeah thats true. You can fire almost three AIM-9X (400k) for one AIM-120 (1.09M).

You need the right technology to match your adversaries...

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Gromnir

Gromnir

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12 minutes ago, Gorth said:

You need the right technology to match your adversaries...

 

 

am realizing the tounge-in-cheek, but snoopy in a sopwith camel is unlikely to be able to reach anywhere near the 60k feet the chinese balloons were encountered. would be shocked if the camel could exceed 20k feet.

more important, your post gives us an excuse to link the following:

edit: tangential related, on our personal top ten most underrated pc games is crimson skies.

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"If there be time to expose through discussion the falsehood and fallacies, to avert the evil by the processes of education, the remedy to be applied is more speech, not enforced silence."Justice Louis Brandeis, Concurring, Whitney v. California, 274 U.S. 357 (1927)

"Im indifferent to almost any murder as long as it doesn't affect me or mine."--Gfted1 (September 30, 2019)

PK htiw klaw eriF

PK htiw klaw eriF

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2 hours ago, Sarex said:

We joked about it, but the balloon wars have really started.

I wasn't joking. Skynet is going to be an actual net in the sky. How do you hold the net up? Balloons.

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"Akiva Goldsman and Alex Kurtzman run the 21st century version of MK ULTRA." - majestic

"you're a damned filthy lying robot and you deserve to die and burn in hell." - Bartimaeus

"Without individual thinking you can't notice the plot holes." - InsaneCommander

"Just feed off the suffering of gamers." - Malcador

"You are calling my taste crap." -Hurlshort

"thankfully it seems like the creators like Hungary less this time around." - Sarex

"Don't forget the wakame, dumbass" -Keyrock

"Are you trolling or just being inadvertently nonsensical?' -Pidesco

"we have already been forced to admit you are at least human" - uuuhhii

"I refuse to buy from non-woke businesses" - HoonDing

"feral camels are now considered a pest" - Gorth

"Melkathi is known to be an overly critical grumpy person" - Melkathi

"Oddly enough Sanderson was a lot more direct despite being a Mormon" - Zoraptor

"I found it greatly disturbing to scroll through my cartoon's halfing selection of genitalias." - Wormerine

"I love cheese despite the pain and carnage." - ShadySands

Lexx

Lexx

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Aerial photo of Ohio looks like Mordor.

r/pics - Passenger photo while plane flew near East Palestine, Ohio ... chemical fire after train derailed

 

I wonder if Biden already regrets having bent over the rail workers the way he did some weeks ago.

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