BruceVC Posted March 9, 2020 Posted March 9, 2020 2 minutes ago, Gfted1 said: We wont get Yang and now I see Sanders is losing by double digits. Hes the last candidate this cycle that was going to fill up my pockets with free stuff and now it looks like Ima have to keep working. Qq. Yes but at the end of the day Biden is a stronger candidate to beat Trump....thats something positive if you dont want another 4 years of Trump ? "Abashed the devil stood and felt how awful goodness is and saw Virtue in her shape how lovely: and pined his loss” John Milton "We don't stop playing because we grow old; we grow old because we stop playing.” - George Bernard Shaw "What counts in life is not the mere fact that we have lived. It is what difference we have made to the lives of others that will determine the significance of the life we lead" - Nelson Mandela
Gfted1 Posted March 9, 2020 Posted March 9, 2020 5 minutes ago, BruceVC said: thats something positive if you dont want another 4 years of Trump ? Eh, I dont really care that much and Im good at riding out the pendulum swings. Hes a dumpster fire, but Im not of the opinion that the president has to be a "nice guy", and thats what most of the piggies seems to squeal about loudest. The next clown in office is going to be tripping all over their comically oversize shoes trying to kiss the worlds ass, and I think that will be a mistake too. "I'm your biggest fan, Ill follow you until you love me, Papa"
Guard Dog Posted March 9, 2020 Posted March 9, 2020 Apparently Trump is blaming the media for the stock market spiral today. I had no idea the media owned so much stock! "Remember everyone when the market opens sell sell sell!" "While it is true you learn with age, the down side is what you often learn is what a damn fool you were before" Thomas Sowell
Gfted1 Posted March 9, 2020 Posted March 9, 2020 Just now, Guard Dog said: I had no idea the media owned so much stock! No, they just have a monopoly on controlling the narrative that hundreds of millions of people consume. But dont worry your head, theyre doing us a favor. "I'm your biggest fan, Ill follow you until you love me, Papa"
Guard Dog Posted March 9, 2020 Posted March 9, 2020 1 minute ago, Gfted1 said: But dont worry your head, theyre doing us a favor. True enough! If you want to buy in now might be the time. "While it is true you learn with age, the down side is what you often learn is what a damn fool you were before" Thomas Sowell
BruceVC Posted March 9, 2020 Posted March 9, 2020 11 minutes ago, Guard Dog said: Apparently Trump is blaming the media for the stock market spiral today. I had no idea the media owned so much stock! "Remember everyone when the market opens sell sell sell!" Fortunately you cannot crash most global stock exchanges by mass selling, today the US markets lost 7 % and circuit-breakers kick in to pause all trading, its very clever and will kick-in again if the US markets lose 14 %. https://www.investopedia.com/terms/c/circuitbreaker.asp "Abashed the devil stood and felt how awful goodness is and saw Virtue in her shape how lovely: and pined his loss” John Milton "We don't stop playing because we grow old; we grow old because we stop playing.” - George Bernard Shaw "What counts in life is not the mere fact that we have lived. It is what difference we have made to the lives of others that will determine the significance of the life we lead" - Nelson Mandela
BruceVC Posted March 9, 2020 Posted March 9, 2020 14 minutes ago, Gfted1 said: No, they just have a monopoly on controlling the narrative that hundreds of millions of people consume. But dont worry your head, theyre doing us a favor. Yes but since when do you have to believe what one aspect of the media tells you, surly you can do your own research or use common sense ? The media doesnt control the narrative, it influences it but we need to decide for ourselves what side of the narrative we believe and or support "Abashed the devil stood and felt how awful goodness is and saw Virtue in her shape how lovely: and pined his loss” John Milton "We don't stop playing because we grow old; we grow old because we stop playing.” - George Bernard Shaw "What counts in life is not the mere fact that we have lived. It is what difference we have made to the lives of others that will determine the significance of the life we lead" - Nelson Mandela
Gfted1 Posted March 9, 2020 Posted March 9, 2020 Yeah, thats what we humans are good at, reading the fine print and making educated decisions, like in contracts. The reality of the situation is that people will believe the FIRST story they see on a matter, and following conversation will be based on that. 1 "I'm your biggest fan, Ill follow you until you love me, Papa"
BruceVC Posted March 9, 2020 Posted March 9, 2020 13 minutes ago, Gfted1 said: Yeah, thats what we humans are good at, reading the fine print and making educated decisions, like in contracts. The reality of the situation is that people will believe the FIRST story they see on a matter, and following conversation will be based on that. Im not sure this is true, its very cynical? But it made me laugh "Abashed the devil stood and felt how awful goodness is and saw Virtue in her shape how lovely: and pined his loss” John Milton "We don't stop playing because we grow old; we grow old because we stop playing.” - George Bernard Shaw "What counts in life is not the mere fact that we have lived. It is what difference we have made to the lives of others that will determine the significance of the life we lead" - Nelson Mandela
Gfted1 Posted March 9, 2020 Posted March 9, 2020 14 minutes ago, BruceVC said: Im not sure this is true, its very cynical? But it made me laugh Yeah the first part was a joke. As I am wont to do, I was just piggybacking off previous pages. The second sentence is mostly true imo. 1 "I'm your biggest fan, Ill follow you until you love me, Papa"
Hurlshort Posted March 9, 2020 Posted March 9, 2020 2 hours ago, Raithe said: Proposed Tennessee Bill threatens librarians with fines or jail time Well, that's such a great way to go in a democracy. It's about time we get after librarians like we do big tobacco and the alcohol industry. 1 2
Gfted1 Posted March 9, 2020 Posted March 9, 2020 3 hours ago, Raithe said: “age-inappropriate sexual material” to minors. News at 11...minors cant buy "porn" either. "I'm your biggest fan, Ill follow you until you love me, Papa"
PK htiw klaw eriF Posted March 9, 2020 Posted March 9, 2020 Does anyone buy porn? 1 "Akiva Goldsman and Alex Kurtzman run the 21st century version of MK ULTRA." - majestic "you're a damned filthy lying robot and you deserve to die and burn in hell." - Bartimaeus "Without individual thinking you can't notice the plot holes." - InsaneCommander "Just feed off the suffering of gamers." - Malcador "You are calling my taste crap." -Hurlshort "thankfully it seems like the creators like Hungary less this time around." - Sarex "Don't forget the wakame, dumbass" -Keyrock "Are you trolling or just being inadvertently nonsensical?' -Pidesco "we have already been forced to admit you are at least human" - uuuhhii "I refuse to buy from non-woke businesses" - HoonDing "feral camels are now considered a pest" - Gorth "Melkathi is known to be an overly critical grumpy person" - Melkathi "Oddly enough Sanderson was a lot more direct despite being a Mormon" - Zoraptor "I found it greatly disturbing to scroll through my cartoon's halfing selection of genitalias." - Wormerine "I love cheese despite the pain and carnage." - ShadySands
Gfted1 Posted March 9, 2020 Posted March 9, 2020 Right! But my point was, if a minor goes into 7/11 and buys a pack of smokes then the vendor can get fined if they are caught. If a minor goes into a bar and gets served then the vendor can be fined if they are caught. You see where this is going? Now what rises to the level of “age-inappropriate sexual material” in a public library? I dont know. Im sure its something as benign as a stray nipple in a Vogue magazine. Im just trying to explain the stupid bill. "I'm your biggest fan, Ill follow you until you love me, Papa"
Guard Dog Posted March 9, 2020 Posted March 9, 2020 Fist off, the library thing... this is Tennessee, don't take it seriously. It won't pass. There is a lot of stupid s--t that gets tossed against the wall around here. "While it is true you learn with age, the down side is what you often learn is what a damn fool you were before" Thomas Sowell
Gromnir Posted March 9, 2020 Posted March 9, 2020 sell booze to minors just like provide indecent material to kids in a library? maybe not so analogous. after all, there is no first amendment equivalent protecting the right to smoke or drink. that said, goal o' protection o' children does result in a narrow exception to otherwise protected indecent speech. "obscene" may be prohibited w/o any special state or fed laws, but obscene is nevertheless an extreme fluid standard. obscenity wouldn't cover vogue model mishap regardless. indecent speech, on the other hand... still wouldn't be covered (no pun) but would be closer. george carlin's seven dirty words you can't say on the radio were in fact successful banned from radio 'cause a vulnerable child were unwitting exposed to the indecent comedy performance. *gasp* parent (coincidental, the parent were a planning board member o' Morality in Media, a group dedicated to removing filth from tv and radio) were taking his son (tender age o' fifteen) to visit yale during what would otherwise be school hours and had car radio playing when the skit were on a local radio station... or so it were claimed by the plaintiffs. sure, the situation were 'bout as contrived as a hannity "news" spot, but for sake o' the case, facts were accepted as valid. regardless, pacifica case set standard for an exception to free speech protections. indecent may be limited in situations where unwitting minors might be harmed. however, attempts to ban indecent material from internet to protect children who might access has consistent failed in Court. why is radio different from internet? 'cause. *shrug* in spite o' pacifica, the Court insists limits on indecent speech must be narrow tailored so as to not undue limit adult speech rights. so is a library more like internet or radio? at the very least, some kinda rating system would need be developed to protect librarians, 'cause vagueness is a win for plaintiffs trying to kill such a law as the TN bit, most common fail for such indecent speech regulations is vagueness. if lawmakers is gonna mess 'round with free speech, they gotta be clear 'bout what is being prohibited. simple rule o' thumb for layman is if a reasonable and ordinary person ain't certain material is prohibited by a law, then it isn't. is all kinda hurdles for TN law, but is one o' those bits o' doomed legislation which makes a segment o' the constituency happy. faith is their shield 'gainst the devil and injustice... or whatever.. link arms and sing. HA! Good Fun! "If there be time to expose through discussion the falsehood and fallacies, to avert the evil by the processes of education, the remedy to be applied is more speech, not enforced silence."Justice Louis Brandeis, Concurring, Whitney v. California, 274 U.S. 357 (1927) "Im indifferent to almost any murder as long as it doesn't affect me or mine."--Gfted1 (September 30, 2019)
IndiraLightfoot Posted March 10, 2020 Posted March 10, 2020 13 hours ago, Raithe said: Proposed Tennessee Bill threatens librarians with fines or jail time Well, that's such a great way to go in a democracy. Berkeley Breathed's Bloom County 21 juni 2017 · Vintage Strip of Week. 1983 4 1 *** "The words of someone who feels ever more the ent among saplings when playing CRPGs" ***
Gromnir Posted March 10, 2020 Posted March 10, 2020 am recalling a story from last fall 'bout a michigan woman who checked out a couple books in 2017 and then discovered there were an arrest warrant out in her name 'cause she had failed to return the books. where the sidewalk ends were one o' the books if memory serves. matter were cleared up after a pro bono lawyer took her case and got the issue attention from national and local media outlets. the county in question (not bloom... which would need be somewhere in iowa?) dropped charges but the woman had to issue a statement she were at fault and pay all fines... which totaled ~$300. do not mess with michigan librarians, particularly when shel silverstein is involved. HA! Good Fun! 1 "If there be time to expose through discussion the falsehood and fallacies, to avert the evil by the processes of education, the remedy to be applied is more speech, not enforced silence."Justice Louis Brandeis, Concurring, Whitney v. California, 274 U.S. 357 (1927) "Im indifferent to almost any murder as long as it doesn't affect me or mine."--Gfted1 (September 30, 2019)
Guard Dog Posted March 10, 2020 Posted March 10, 2020 So, let's see here. Over the last few days: The stock market has crashed Bond yields have crashed People are being locked up without being arrested. Yeah, yeah, "quarantined" whatever. There are shortages of drugs There are shortages of medical supplies There are shortages of toilet paper, bottled water, non-perishable food There is an actual black market for hand soap and sanitizer where a $2 bottle sells for $100. That one really surprises me! The medical system is overwhelmed and can't take care of everyone Don't you guys see what happening here? This is a Bernie Sanders test run! This is Beta version Bernie! A preview of coming attractions! Oh c'mon... that was funny! I see you out there frowning at your laptop/phone screen. 2 "While it is true you learn with age, the down side is what you often learn is what a damn fool you were before" Thomas Sowell
Hurlshort Posted March 10, 2020 Posted March 10, 2020 (edited) My commute has been easier. Edited March 10, 2020 by Hurlshot 1
BruceVC Posted March 10, 2020 Posted March 10, 2020 2 hours ago, Guard Dog said: So, let's see here. Over the last few days: The stock market has crashed Bond yields have crashed People are being locked up without being arrested. Yeah, yeah, "quarantined" whatever. There are shortages of drugs There are shortages of medical supplies There are shortages of toilet paper, bottled water, non-perishable food There is an actual black market for hand soap and sanitizer where a $2 bottle sells for $100. That one really surprises me! The medical system is overwhelmed and can't take care of everyone Don't you guys see what happening here? This is a Bernie Sanders test run! This is Beta version Bernie! A preview of coming attractions! Oh c'mon... that was funny! I see you out there frowning at your laptop/phone screen. This post highlights some of the real and irrational risks if Bernie becomes president, Im sure no one wants this even if the chance is remote. Its much better we dont take the chance in the interests of a progressive and sustainable global economy "Abashed the devil stood and felt how awful goodness is and saw Virtue in her shape how lovely: and pined his loss” John Milton "We don't stop playing because we grow old; we grow old because we stop playing.” - George Bernard Shaw "What counts in life is not the mere fact that we have lived. It is what difference we have made to the lives of others that will determine the significance of the life we lead" - Nelson Mandela
ShadySands Posted March 10, 2020 Posted March 10, 2020 In local politics it looks like Hickenlooper may not coast to being the Dem candidate for US Senate here after all. If you wonder why this matters at all is because it's very vulnerable seat that can probably be flipped. I'd personally rather vote for Romanoff but TBH I'm voting for anyone other than Gardner. Free games updated 3/4/21
Guard Dog Posted March 11, 2020 Posted March 11, 2020 Looks like Joe Biden is having a good night. He's won Mississippi, they are calling Missouri for him and he he's ahead in Michigan. 1 "While it is true you learn with age, the down side is what you often learn is what a damn fool you were before" Thomas Sowell
Volourn Posted March 11, 2020 Posted March 11, 2020 L0L Sanders. His own fault, though. He's not a Democrat. Yet, people are shocked that the Dems powers-to-be don't want them as their leader. I'm still surprised the Repubs didn't stop Trump's party nomination. They need to be as ruthless and undemcoratic as the Democrats are. L0LZ DWARVES IN PROJECT ETERNITY = VOLOURN HAS PLEDGED $250.
Bartimaeus Posted March 11, 2020 Posted March 11, 2020 Quote How I have existed fills me with horror. For I have failed in everything - spelling, arithmetic, riding, tennis, golf; dancing, singing, acting; wife, mistress, whore, friend. Even cooking. And I do not excuse myself with the usual escape of 'not trying'. I tried with all my heart. In my dreams, I am not crippled. In my dreams, I dance.
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