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Is there any realistic way to tell the truth of such accusations from incidents 35 years ago though? If Kavanaugh is a serial sex pest then he's not going to suddenly have qualms lying under oath- and IIRC he's under oath at the Senate hearings anyway. And if they did happen and people were lying to protect Kavanaugh could the threat of perjury have any weight after that time? Perjury does have to be deliberate, and after 35 years proving deliberate lies instead of being mistaken is pretty much impossible.

 

In other news looks like Syria is going to be getting S300 anti air systems from Russia. They've allegedly been there waiting to be delivered for months but the latest Israeli issue seems to have forced things. If what they've said is accurate they'd be non export PM2 systems as well, rather than nerfed PMU2.

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But wasn't there already a 'thorough' investigation. LMAO

 

 

This is clearly a political hack job. Even if it is true, the timing is clearly all about politics not truth or justice.

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The whole confirmation is a political hack job, I agree there.

 

For my part, I'm half-waiting for stuff more recent than 30 years ago to come up. Yes, college and highschool sheneinighans are a thing and Kavanaugh has plenty of other reasons to be denied confirmation, but if he is a sex pest (or maybe just when drunk), then where are the incidents after college?

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A thorough investigation would at least be able to sift through some of the lies.

 

I don't really see how. The details of the complaint are very sparse and rely entirely on 35 year old memories, so there simply isn't much to empirically verify/ refute. There isn't even much threat of perjury given the time elapsed so not much leverage to compel any bad faith actors. The first complaint has almost no details at all surrounding the incident itself and seems to have been denied by everyone else, and in the second the complainant seemed to be unsure it was definitely Kavanaugh until part way through the interview.

 

The whole thing is a classic no win situation for whoever is being honest, with the caveat that all may believe they're being honest after that amount of time. Cannot remember details? Dodgy. Remember too many details? Also dodgy. Can't remember at all? Dodgy. And the goldilocks zone of just the right amount of details being remembered will vary wildly depending on which party you back as well. In that situation I cannot see any sense in having the FBI involved instead of just following the usual Senate protocol which is also under oath.

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And he's had six FBI background checks over the years for various positions, so, if there was anything, any one of those six sweeps might have caught something.

 

Not that the allegations should be dismissed entirely, and it seems to speak more of the party culture at the highschool and the, well, you know, college frat house, than anything Kavanaugh did. Also, IMO, if he admitted to doing stuff that he now finds embarrassing and does a sincere apology, he'd still have a chance at being confirmed because being honest is a lot better than lying about it.

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https://apnews.com/6e16c132957e484ea96437c065ccab97/Trump:-No-statehood-for-Puerto-Rico-with-critics-in-office

 

“With the mayor of San Juan as bad as she is and as incompetent as she is, Puerto Rico shouldn’t be talking about statehood until they get some people that really know what they’re doing,” Trump said in an interview with Rivera’s show on Cleveland’s WTAM radio.

:lol:

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Seems the Yale thing wasn't just coke and latent homosexuality.

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Another woman - the FOURTH woman - has come forward to accuse Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh of sexual assault:

 

https://news.vice.com/en_us/article/3kek75/another-kavanaugh-accuser-is-taking-to-maryland-authorities

Hardly a fourth since the third is just a rumor by the creepy porn lawyer.

 

 

Theres very little information to go on for the said fourth one, and the third one hasn't spoken out yet. Though if the anonymous person is filing a police report, that is something the FBI can act on since they need a police filing to act on.

 

Again, this fourth one is even less information than the Avenatti one which at least has a rumor attached to it.

 

 

Seems the Yale thing wasn't just coke and latent homosexuality.

 

Given that it was a frat house, I'm not surprised at the behavior. So far though, everything that's come out has been in relation to the party culture of his high school and the frat house at Yale.

 

 

 

Kavanaugh would be under oath.

He was under oath recently Dems could ask him anything including the accusations that they sit on for weeks.

 

 

I meant while being questioned by the FBI.

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He called for an end to socialism ? Huh, ok, bit grandiose. His remarks on Iran sounded like a lot of glass shattering, but that is to be expected from an American :p

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What is QQ?

QQ has evolved to mean a set of "crying eyes". The rest of the world is so damn butthurt over Trump that they go out of their way to abandon normal diplomatic protocol in an attempt to "embarrass" him.

 

I wonder if they even realize that they are losing more face than he ever will. :shrugz:

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China reveals its new party line: We're trying to save the world from the US

 

China accused the U.S. of "trade bullyism practices" that have become "the greatest source of uncertainty and risk for the recovery of the global economy."

 

Those comments were laid out in a 71-page white paper that carried the Chinese government's response to criticisms it received from the U.S.
 
"China does not want a trade war, but it is not afraid of one and will fight one if necessary," Beijing said in the paper.

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China whining about ';bullies' like theya re some poor little victim that has never bullied others. LMAO

 

China should go back to mass murdering their own civilians amongst other tragedies. It's what they're good at.

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He called for an end to socialism ? Huh, ok, bit grandiose. His remarks on Iran sounded like a lot of glass shattering, but that is to be expected from an American :p

It seems the dems weren't the only ones who time traveled back to the cold war.

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The US needs to take a stance against the police-state cities that currently intern Uyghurs. It's not like we'll be in the diplomatic position to draw attention to it once we move into the process of healing the economic markets between the two countries. At least cast a wide spread light on the issue now so it can be in the minds of the people's of the world going forward.

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Does he think they're laughing with him rather than at him? It almost seems like it.

 

That seems to be the way he's trying to spin it now. He now says that he meant to be funny, sort of like 'um, I meant to be funny... yeah...'

 

If he was actually trying to make a joke (which the UN General Assembly really isn't the place for), okay, but he was just repeating the rhetoric he uses during rallys where people cheer him on. So, severe misreading of the audience, or not? It's open to interpretation, but still....

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Pfft, Trump is claiming China is meddling in the midterms, without proof. This is exactly the kind of thing that he should have credibility on, but nope, people are just going to believe he is deflecting on Russian meddling.

If it's happening on a serious level, then obviously it's a problem, but this looks like just another of Trump's wild accusations.

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