Stardusk78 Posted August 24, 2018 Posted August 24, 2018 I am certain other people have noticed it but in case you have not, any spellcaster (Cipher, Priest, Wizard) gets a +10 accuracy bonus if you multiclass as a Ranger. I am not complaining but I have to wonder if this is in fact intentional?
Theosupus Posted August 24, 2018 Posted August 24, 2018 Yes that's the major advantage of the class (one of the few). 2
Teclis23 Posted August 25, 2018 Posted August 25, 2018 (edited) @op Have you seen the fighters first level perception and graze to hit and hit to crit conversion (once upgraded) active ability ? This is far more powerful then the rangers marked prey because it is not single target. So if you throw a fireball it will buff the entire AOE. Marked prey will only effect one enemy in the fireball blast. The fighters accuracey buff will also work with single target spells. Edited August 25, 2018 by Teclis23
Dr <3 Posted August 25, 2018 Posted August 25, 2018 @op Have you seen the fighters first level perception and graze to hit and hit to crit conversion (once upgraded) active ability ? This is far more powerful then the rangers marked prey because it is not single target. So if you throw a fireball it will buff the entire AOE. Marked prey will only effect one enemy in the fireball blast. The fighters accuracey buff will also work with single target spells. On the other side marked pray works for everyone in the team and can't be resisted... Is much better vs boss for example. And the upgraded version apply for free to another enemy when you get the kill, so is pretty spammable also in normal encounters.
Stardusk78 Posted August 25, 2018 Author Posted August 25, 2018 @op Have you seen the fighters first level perception and graze to hit and hit to crit conversion (once upgraded) active ability ? This is far more powerful then the rangers marked prey because it is not single target. So if you throw a fireball it will buff the entire AOE. Marked prey will only effect one enemy in the fireball blast. The fighters accuracey buff will also work with single target spells. For a Seer, especially a Beguiler, the +10 accuracy added to the spell cast is amazing, significantly increasing the chance an enemy will be charmed or paralysed. I rather like it.
Teclis23 Posted August 25, 2018 Posted August 25, 2018 @op Have you seen the fighters first level perception and graze to hit and hit to crit conversion (once upgraded) active ability ? This is far more powerful then the rangers marked prey because it is not single target. So if you throw a fireball it will buff the entire AOE. Marked prey will only effect one enemy in the fireball blast. The fighters accuracey buff will also work with single target spells. On the other side marked pray works for everyone in the team and can't be resisted... Is much better vs boss for example. And the upgraded version apply for free to another enemy when you get the kill, so is pretty spammable also in normal encounters. marked prey works for everyone in your team not just the ranger? Really?
Boeroer Posted August 25, 2018 Posted August 25, 2018 (edited) Like with the Paladin in PoE, a Ranger/Cipher can be an awesome charmer in Deadfire. Some accuracy bonuses (Marked Prey, Stalker's Link, Survival of the Fittest) work with single target spells like Whisper of Treason, making a crit-charm verly likely. Also Takedown Combo + those acc buffs + a single target damage spell like Sunlance, Killing Bolt, Divine Mark, Pillar of Faith and so on do really hurt. +125% damage on a high base damage attack is paying off nicely. I actually never tested how DoTs like Disintegrate behave with that damage bonus of Takedown Combo. Edited August 25, 2018 by Boeroer 1 Deadfire Community Patch: Nexus Mods
Dr <3 Posted August 25, 2018 Posted August 25, 2018 @ Boeroer: yes, chiper/ranger is one of my fav class combination. Like you said you get awesome and cheap accuracy boosts. Anoter "feature" is that , as a ranger, you will *always* have a "allied target" around. For solo is very useful, since you can actually use soul shock, amplified wave, ecc Disintegrate is already so powerful that i wouldn't even try testing, or at least do that in secret or a mega nerf will come :D @Teclis23 : yes
Teclis23 Posted August 25, 2018 Posted August 25, 2018 Disintegrate was ok when i tried it but by the time you get it you dont need it anyway beacause the game is too easy in the last half of it
hilfazer Posted August 25, 2018 Posted August 25, 2018 Spellcasters benefitting from multiclassing... intentionally? That's not Obsidian i know. 1 Vancian =/= per rest.
Stardusk78 Posted August 25, 2018 Author Posted August 25, 2018 Spellcasters benefitting from multiclassing... intentionally? That's not Obsidian i know. Almost worth missing out on those power levels eh? Add the ring of the elements or whatever it is called and a Geomancer, for example, will get a whopping +20 accuracy bonus with Chill Fog, Fireball and every other elemental spell.
dunehunter Posted August 25, 2018 Posted August 25, 2018 I think marked the prey only works on ranger and his pet only? 1
Boeroer Posted August 25, 2018 Posted August 25, 2018 Spellcasters benefitting from multiclassing... intentionally? That's not Obsidian i know. Almost worth missing out on those power levels eh? Add the ring of the elements or whatever it is called and a Geomancer, for example, will get a whopping +20 accuracy bonus with Chill Fog, Fireball and every other elemental spell. But only Survival of the Fittest works on all enemies you target with a Fireball etc. Stalker's Link only works on the enemy you attack with the pet and Marked Prey ony on the one you marked - I mean you can mark several enemies of course, but I don't know it that's worth it. I wonder how Soul Ignition works if you use Ring of Focused Flame, Marked Prey, Stalker's Link and Survival otF on the enemy (+40 ACC). Is this also one of the powers where lower INT and a graze are better ( )? Deadfire Community Patch: Nexus Mods
Teclis23 Posted August 25, 2018 Posted August 25, 2018 I think marked the prey only works on ranger and his pet only? Yeah it does i have no idea what he is talking about
Boeroer Posted August 25, 2018 Posted August 25, 2018 Marked Prey/Marked for the Hunt only works for the ranger and his animal companion. Deadfire Community Patch: Nexus Mods
Dr <3 Posted August 25, 2018 Posted August 25, 2018 Marked Prey/Marked for the Hunt only works for the ranger and his animal companion. Really? I was sure it added +10 accuracy for every attack made at the marked enemy. It is only for ranger and pet? Thinking better i haven't used a ranger in a party since the beta, so maybe something was changed at some point. Sorry to gave the wrong information. For soul ignition: total dmg actually benefits from higher int, a lowe int lowers the dmg. No disintegration-like shananigans sadly.
1TTFFSSE Posted August 25, 2018 Posted August 25, 2018 It works for the ranger but not the whole party but that's the point. As a ranger if you mark a target anything you do to the target gets the accuracy bonus but your party members don't get the accuracy bonus.
hilfazer Posted August 25, 2018 Posted August 25, 2018 Marked Prey/Marked for the Hunt only works for the ranger and his animal companion. Really? I was sure it added +10 accuracy for every attack made at the marked enemy. It is only for ranger and pet? Paladin's Coordinated Attacks work like this. Except it's passive so pala needs to be attacking selected target. Vancian =/= per rest.
Boeroer Posted August 25, 2018 Posted August 25, 2018 (edited) I tested it right before posting (to be 100% sure). It only works for ranger + animal companion. Since Soul Ignition targets fortitude a ranger/cipher with Marked Prey, Stalker's Link, Survival of the Fittest, Ring of Focused Flame and Body Blows (morning star) should work nicely. Equivalent of 65 bonus accuracy... I guess Borrowed Instinct and Tactical Meld also stack? Edited August 25, 2018 by Boeroer Deadfire Community Patch: Nexus Mods
Dr <3 Posted August 25, 2018 Posted August 25, 2018 Marked Prey/Marked for the Hunt only works for the ranger and his animal companion.Really? I was sure it added +10 accuracy for every attack made at the marked enemy. It is only for ranger and pet? Paladin's Coordinated Attacks work like this. Except it's passive so pala needs to be attacking selected target. ??? Paladins doesn't have coordinated attack in poe2 afaik
Boeroer Posted August 25, 2018 Posted August 25, 2018 They don't. Deadfire Community Patch: Nexus Mods
Metaturtle Posted August 25, 2018 Posted August 25, 2018 (edited) Similarly I love the ranger acc bonuses for my beastmaster since it allows me to land all her raw dots on a boss. Edited August 26, 2018 by Metaturtle Filthy Chanter Main
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