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Obsidian, you should stop hearing the bunch of min-maxers that spam this forum


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I stopped playing the DLCs in PoE1 because it became a chain of absurd combats where enemies cheated and spamed stupid abilities just to satisfy a handful of "its too easy" morons. And now it happened again. Combat in Poe2 was fluid and fun until I arrived to this stupid iceberg, and suddendly I have to be an expert in the rules of the game to not be erased by hordes of random enemies with the power of demigods.

 

Obsidian, please stop. The averge player wants a fun experience with some roleplaying, not a grade on your innecesary complex ruleset. Every second the combat log adds dozens of records for every action, Am I supposed to spent my sunday afternoon studing this **** to see what is going on? **** off.

 

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I stopped playing the DLCs in PoE1 because it became a chain of absurd combats where enemies cheated and spamed stupid abilities just to satisfy a handful of "its too easy" morons. And now it happened again. Combat in Poe2 was fluid and fun until I arrived to this stupid iceberg, and suddendly I have to be an expert in the rules of the game to not be erased by hordes of random enemies with the power of demigods.

 

Obsidian, please stop. The averge player wants a fun experience with some roleplaying, not a grade on your innecesary complex ruleset. Every second the combat log adds dozens of records for every action, Am I supposed to spent my sunday afternoon studing this **** to see what is going on? **** off.

 

Sincerely yours, a customer.

Use a lower difficulty. Sincerely yours, a rational person.


Edited by M4xw0lf, 12 August 2018 - 12:06 PM.

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Turning PotD into PotStupid or was it just Ptsd?



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Dude did you just accuse a non conscious entity of cheating when it uses the same rulebook as you?



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Use a lower difficulty. Sincerely yours, a rational person.

 

yeah sure, I will change the default difficulty at level 18, after almost finishing the vanilla game.

 

Oh wait... too late, I have already unistalled the game.



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Use a lower difficulty. Sincerely yours, a rational person.

 

yeah sure, I will change the default difficulty at level 18, after almost finishing the vanilla game.

 

Oh wait... too late, I have already unistalled the game.

 

 

What a sensible way to handle things!


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Also the game does not cheat. Everything the enemies do you can do too, and better.



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That's what difficulty levels are for. If you find the combat too difficult, lower the difficulty. You can play the DLC with no more problems than the base game. Source: I just did

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Dude did you just accuse a non conscious entity of cheating when it uses the same rulebook as you?

The rulebook of PoE has being changing after every damn patch or DLC. This is obiously a rant, but I know what i'm saying.



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I usually hate "git gud" responses but cmon. The game is easy enough that you absolutely don't have to min-max in any way shape or form to beat it on PoTD. You don't have to be an expert on the supposedly "ever changing rulebook (what exactly changed in the last patch that suddenly makes the game much harder? I don't see anything).

I'm certainly no expert at the game, and it was plain boring at higher levels. I use only story companions, so there was no min-maxing going on. Hell i didn't even use AI scripts.

I never even look at the combat log. Its not a complex game. The mechanics have been simplified enough since PoE1 that everything is intuive. Have a affliction, cast an inspiration. Blind ranged enemies. Heal if you're taking damage. That formula beats 99% of fights without needing to spend "hours poring over the combat log."

The lack of difficulty on PoTD seriously kills the replay value, and I hope they keep pushing it further up. Play on a lower difficulty if its too hard for you.
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I stopped playing the DLCs in PoE1 because it became a chain of absurd combats where enemies cheated and spamed stupid abilities just to satisfy a handful of "its too easy" morons. And now it happened again. Combat in Poe2 was fluid and fun until I arrived to this stupid iceberg, and suddendly I have to be an expert in the rules of the game to not be erased by hordes of random enemies with the power of demigods.

 

Obsidian, please stop. The averge player wants a fun experience with some roleplaying, not a grade on your innecesary complex ruleset. Every second the combat log adds dozens of records for every action, Am I supposed to spent my sunday afternoon studing this **** to see what is going on? **** off.

 

Sincerely yours, a customer.

 

Don't worry guy, I'm sure they'll listen to you since you're being so polite and all. Have fun!


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Dude did you just accuse a non conscious entity of cheating when it uses the same rulebook as you?

The rulebook of PoE has being changing after every damn patch or DLC. This is obiously a rant, but I know what i'm saying.

I think that is a valid complain. Changes to the balance are significant enough to heavily impact playthroughs in session. Game would benefit greatly from additonal time in the oven before release.


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I usually hate "git gud" responses but cmon. The game is easy enough that you absolutely don't have to min-max in any way shape or form to beat it on PoTD. You don't have to be an expert on the supposedly "ever changing rulebook (what exactly changed in the last patch that suddenly makes the game much harder? I don't see anything).

I'm certainly no expert at the game, and it was plain boring at higher levels. I use only story companions, so there was no min-maxing going on. Hell i didn't even use AI scripts.

I never even look at the combat log. Its not a complex game. The mechanics have been simplified enough since PoE1 that everything is intuive. Have a affliction, cast an inspiration. Blind ranged enemies. Heal if you're taking damage. That formula beats 99% of fights without needing to spend "hours poring over the combat log."

The lack of difficulty on PoTD seriously kills the replay value, and I hope they keep pushing it further up. Play on a lower difficulty if its too hard for you.

 

Seriously, the game isn't difficult at all. As long as youre spamming your top abilities every fight and making sure you're not dumbly putting your squishy guys in danger, it's not hard. Spam some of your best buffs/debuffs/summons for the first couple of rounds of combat, then your best damage spells/abilities. Use healing as needed. Then mop up. Heck, take turns burning empowers from one guy every fight, unload them on boss fights, if you're finding it so hard.



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Before we even get to "git gud" we've got to push past the weirdly insurmountable option of "turn down the difficulty"

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In case It wasn't clear, I was talking about the dlcs and the random difficulty spikes. Even the gameplay is different, we go from a story driven rpg with less than average combat to a hell hole where every walking **** with a generic name is able to rip your head off. 

 

Obsidian is too afraid of making their own game, this kickstarter thing has made them slaves of hardcore fans instead of a big corporation. In theory its better, but in reality, Poe2 has fallen dramatically short compared to the first one. Too much ruleset tweaking and gameplay adjustements for a dull campaign with uninspired companions.


Edited by Vanant, 12 August 2018 - 02:47 PM.


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PoE changed massively in the year after it launched, how on earth could you think this one has too much ruleset tweaking compared to that?

Plus every way in which PoE2 is weaker than 1 is due to their attempts to make the game appeal to a wider audience
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Look at the goalposts moving from post to post, folks. YHBT.


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PoE2 too hard topics start to emerge? Good to know devs finally cater to people with brains. If you got no brain, hands, play with monitor turned off, go for the story mode whelp.


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Look at the goalposts moving from post to post, folks. YHBT.

 

It's like watching an ant being herded by sheets of paper, making 90' turns every two seconds until it's stuck in a corner.






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