Luvsucklonewolf Posted May 23, 2018 Share Posted May 23, 2018 I played as a wizard and accidentally kill eder in the first fight with fire spell ! When the ship wrecked and i regain consciousness at the beach ,eder is gone !! Is it a bug ? Because after fight he should be resurrected ?No? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
youspoonybard Posted May 23, 2018 Share Posted May 23, 2018 I played as a wizard and accidentally kill eder in the first fight with fire spell ! When the ship wrecked and i regain consciousness at the beach ,eder is gone !! Is it a bug ? Because after fight he should be resurrected ?No? He fell into the ocean and drowned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pidesco Posted May 23, 2018 Share Posted May 23, 2018 That was something I was wondering if it was possible. As Éder isn't a part of your party before getting to the beach, I assume that if he dies in the first fight, then he is dead for good. "My hovercraft is full of eels!" - Hungarian touristI am Dan Quayle of the Romans.I want to tattoo a map of the Netherlands on my nether lands.Heja Sverige!!Everyone should cuffawkle more.The wrench is your friend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
morhilane Posted May 23, 2018 Share Posted May 23, 2018 The NPCs, which include Edér, can die on the intro boat fight. You can't, but it ends the fight early if you fall unconscious. Azarhal, Chanter and Keeper of Truth of the Obsidian Order of Eternity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Night Stalker Posted May 23, 2018 Share Posted May 23, 2018 If he is not on the beach besides you, you will need to either restart or load a save before he died. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjshae Posted May 23, 2018 Share Posted May 23, 2018 That's a good thing, if only from the perspective of events having consequences. 5 "It has just been discovered that research causes cancer in rats." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jayngo Posted May 23, 2018 Share Posted May 23, 2018 If it makes you feel any better, I came across Pellegina when I first entered Neketaka and she had some choice words for me. Needless to see, she never joined my party. I think it stems back to decisions I made in PoE. I never cared for her in that game, never used her in my party, and never completed her quest. Talk about holding grudges! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slotharingia Posted May 23, 2018 Share Posted May 23, 2018 If it makes you feel any better, I came across Pellegina when I first entered Neketaka and she had some choice words for me. Needless to see, she never joined my party. I think it stems back to decisions I made in PoE. I never cared for her in that game, never used her in my party, and never completed her quest. Talk about holding grudges! The same happened to me, but she still joined afterwards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boeroer Posted May 23, 2018 Share Posted May 23, 2018 (edited) He can die after being knocked out, yes. That's because he's not in your party yet. He's basically a NPC. And those don't fall unconscious when they are at 0 health - they die! Edited May 23, 2018 by Boeroer 1 Deadfire Community Patch: Nexus Mods Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerekKruger Posted May 23, 2018 Share Posted May 23, 2018 The same can happen to Beodul and Irrena if they die during the fight (Old Engrim and Chiputec aren't there so always survive). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boeroer Posted May 23, 2018 Share Posted May 23, 2018 Chiputec... not always. 1 Deadfire Community Patch: Nexus Mods Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerekKruger Posted May 23, 2018 Share Posted May 23, 2018 Chiputec... not always. Hah! Once I found out what's in the crate he always survived. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torm51 Posted May 23, 2018 Share Posted May 23, 2018 Chiputec... not always. Hah! Once I found out what's in the crate he always survived. I always thought it might be might old trusted Outworn Buckler but have not had the heart to let him die yet. I usually play good guy type Paladins lol. Have gun will travel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torm51 Posted May 23, 2018 Share Posted May 23, 2018 And him possibly dieing is a good deal. Adds weight. Have gun will travel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leferd Posted May 23, 2018 Share Posted May 23, 2018 If it’s as designed - which I suspect it is, I applaud Obsidian for it. 3 "Things are funny...are comedic, because they mix the real with the absurd." - Buzz Aldrin."P-O-T-A-T-O-E" - Dan Quayle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerekKruger Posted May 23, 2018 Share Posted May 23, 2018 I always thought it might be might old trusted Outworn Buckler but have not had the heart to let him die yet. Don't worry, you're not missing out, it's just a pair of Helwaxed Legendary Bittercuts with Corrosive Lashes and Durgan steel enhancements. Nothing major 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katarack21 Posted May 23, 2018 Share Posted May 23, 2018 You killed him. He's dead now. Dead people don't join your party. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerekKruger Posted May 23, 2018 Share Posted May 23, 2018 You killed him. He's dead now. Dead people don't join your party. Devil was technically dead Concelhaut too, though it's not clear whether he really joined your party. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katarack21 Posted May 23, 2018 Share Posted May 23, 2018 You killed him. He's dead now. Dead people don't join your party. Devil was technically dead Concelhaut too, though it's not clear whether he really joined your party. No no no, Devil of Caroc was not dead, she was a construct. She never died, her mind was transferred *while she was still alive*. Theoretically her body wouldn't even have died after her soul left it, until it was killed by some outside force--witness both the Hollowborn, whose bodies are alive, and Berath's statement that your body is breathing and your heart pumping in the material world while your talking to her in the In-Between. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerekKruger Posted May 23, 2018 Share Posted May 23, 2018 No no no, Devil of Caroc was not dead, she was a construct. She never died, her mind was transferred *while she was still alive*. Theoretically her body wouldn't even have died after her soul left it, until it was killed by some outside force--witness both the Hollowborn, whose bodies are alive, and Berath's statement that your body is breathing and your heart pumping in the material world while your talking to her in the In-Between. I think this becomes a philosophical question about what being "dead" means in a world where your soul can, and often does, survive your body's destruction. If we're going by what happened to her original physical body then I strongly suspect the villagers who wanted her executed didn't leave it intact after he soul was transferred, so she's almost certainly dead by those standards. If we're going by what happens to her soul after her physical body dies then a lot of people who are obviously dead in game aren't actually dead (Persok for example isn't dead, since his soul is fine and in another vessel). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katarack21 Posted May 23, 2018 Share Posted May 23, 2018 Well, Persok died, his soul was reincarnated, and now he's somebody(-thing) else. And with creatures like fampyrs, they're inhabiting *their own dead bodies*, so they're dead.Devil of Caroc 1) Did not die and reincarnate, but simply had her soul transferred whole and entire 2) Is not currently in a dead body.It's a question of what's more important to you being you, your body, your soul, or your mind. Persok has his soul, but not his body or his mind. Devil of Caroc has her soul and her mind, but not her body. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerekKruger Posted May 23, 2018 Share Posted May 23, 2018 Indeed. The concrete existence of a soul in Eora makes the question more complicated. I'd tend to take the view that all vessels we meet (apart from Devil) are dead, since they take the form of classical undead or mindless automata* but Devil is a more complicated case certainly. *Actually I'm not sure whether the throne lady of Caed Nua and the chief animancer in Defiance bay are vessels or not? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katarack21 Posted May 23, 2018 Share Posted May 23, 2018 Indeed. The concrete existence of a soul in Eora makes the question more complicated. I'd tend to take the view that all vessels we meet (apart from Devil) are dead, since they take the form of classical undead or mindless automata* but Devil is a more complicated case certainly. *Actually I'm not sure whether the throne lady of Caed Nua and the chief animancer in Defiance bay are vessels or not? Both of them are very clear that they've had their souls transferred into the container that currently houses said souls, so I'd say they are vessels, just of a different sort. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerekKruger Posted May 23, 2018 Share Posted May 23, 2018 Both of them are very clear that they've had their souls transferred into the container that currently houses said souls, so I'd say they are vessels, just of a different sort. Yeah, but then that kinda begs the question "what was so great about Galvino's creation of Devil?" The whole thing was that she wasn't a mindless automata, but neither are those two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katarack21 Posted May 23, 2018 Share Posted May 23, 2018 Galvino's great success was supposedly in transferring a fully-intact soul to an artificial body with no loss of memory, intelligence, or personality. We don't really get to see what the Steward or the former Sanitarium leader were like prior to their soul transfer, but I would assume it came with some losses in those regards. You're right though, that could of been handled better in-game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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