Darth Credulous

Either way, others shouldn't have to do it for them. We're pointing out a serious mistake they made and offering constructive criticism, not beating them bloody in a car park.

They're big boys. I'm sure the guys at Obsidian can defend themselves.

I loved that alteration. They put it alongside a military tattoo. The way that Williams' music is used and subtly altered - 'Anakin's Theme' in Ep1 makes reappearances in Ep2, but only as a haunting little hint at the end of various pieces of music, a musical underscore to Anakin's lingering, dying innocence. Likewise, the military version of Imperial March played at full blast as the Empire begins to be born. When they say 'Space Opera' to describe Star Wars they mean it.

Worse, it's like watching Vader appear on Cloud City while watching ESB, capture Han, Leia et al, and then you see the clash between Luke and Vader - but the fate of Han, Leia etc is not revealed, all that happens is the Falcon appears at the end to rescue Luke. And you never actually find out how.

It's not about the ending of the game, really. The game has an end, it has a finale. But that's all it has at the end, a finale. There are a dozen loose ends and non-sequiturs left flapping, and these are not the kind of things that you leave out of a computer game! The Ebon Hawk - the disappearance of your companions - look at it this way, would you have been happy if, in Empire Strikes Back, the last you saw of the cast (besides Luke) was them being captured, and Leia dragged off by stormtroopers yelling 'it's a trap!'... and then the Falcon simply appears at the end to pick Luke up, and flies off - and the movie ends? That is not a complete movie!

The only real, practical reason would be for official novellisations, I suppose. Though quite frankly, Revan has enough on his/her plate fighting the Sith without having to face gender identity issues as well.

It's the difference between 'human' and 'earthling'?

So what then was released? Surely not the monster itself, because releasing it causes it to go on the rampage, and since the Sith would wish to keep it under control, that wouldn't be something to gloat about. And I certainly don't remember any reference to a connection between the two, where is this said? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> The whole reason that beast was there was to break through the shield wall. The Sith kept the ritual up for as long as they could until that goal was achieved, then broke the ritual off to fight you. They may not have wanted the beast to go out of control, but with you arriving on the scene they didn't have much choice - so they settled for achieving what they could.

You, uh, remember the big dangerous beast attacking the shield pretecting the palace throneroom on Onderon? The sith ritual was controlling it - as well as making every other animal in the city angry and restless. The ritual ends when the beast manages to break through the shield - which is when it goes out of control.

I tend to follow the 'A Jedi uses the Force for knowledge and defence - never for attack' philosophy. A Guardian/Master who focuses almost exclusively on buffs, revival and healing, with the exception of force push/wave, throw lightsaber, affect mind and mind trick (the classic 'movie' jedi powers). Uses the saber to end fights quickly and effectively, makes the most of the Force Enlightenment power when it comes. This was a man who was never really touched by Revan's decline into Sith Lordship, and his powers and skills remain focussed within himself, no matter what his intentions become.

I built the best deck I could in KOTOR 1 - and played swoop racing a lot - and after a lot of aggro finally defeated every pazaak player in the game enough times to make them quit. This was not to entertain myself - more to spite the game, in fact. There was no way I was going to get sucked back into that in KOTOR 2.

Vash could so easily be put back in. She talks about the fate of her apprentice in her lost dialogues, and how he was captured. Cool. Have her apprentice be the one you discover dead, and have him be the one who put in a computer username. Vash even says he's supposed to be a genius with computers. Vash mentions that she was 'left in this chamber' when she awoke. Perfect. Put her, unconscious, in the final chamber of the tomb, where you confront Revan. The bad guys put her in there so she couldn't find her way out and she'd go mad from dark side visions. Kudos to them, bwahaha. But you get her out. You have the discussion with her, all well and good, and you get to hear that line about how links can die if one or the other fall to the Dark Side. That's so needed. It answers one of the most puzzling aspects of this game that resonates all through the whole thing. How come she doesn't show on Dantooine? Easy! Sion shows up - after all, as things stand he sure gives up 'the hunt' pretty easily, doesn't he? - and Vash 'pulls an Obi-Wan' and you run while she holds him back. Maybe you don't even need dialog for this, maybe there's a collapse in the chamber or something and you're seperated from them. You escape the tomb, she's dead, it takes time for Sion to dig himself out (explains why he doesn't chase you), bish, bash, the job's a good'un. People, listen to those cut dialogues, it would be so simple. Or, at least, it WOULD be if there was some way to EDIT the damn ANIMATIONS! I despair sometimes!

There's a cut line of dialogue in which Master Vash - the 'dead' Jedi Master - talks about her own padawan, and how the bond between them failed when her apprentice fell to the Dark Side - in those circumstances, neither of them could feel it or its' effects any more.

... not a million miles away from Episodes 4 and 1, in fact. But they're part of a series of tales, just like the NWN OC and KOTOR1.

Heck yeah. Story of Revan? Oliver Stone wanted to film that but couldn't get the rights from Lucas' grasp with a crowbar. So a few script changes, set the thing in the past, and they rename it 'Alexander'. The bit with Malak riding the AT-AT is cool.

Thousands lay dead, and a land was torn apart by warfare, in both BG series and NWN's OC. You managed to salvage what you could of the situation, and you can consider yourself as having kept your honour, but no, there is no 'Mario saves the Princess, bounce bounce' ending here. Even in the NWN OC, there's nothing more than a bitter sweetness. If you chose to ignore all that happened in the game and simply concentrated on the fate of the main character, then... well, you didn't really manage to 'play the role', unless you were roleplaying a selfish, mercenary character.

'Proving' that just because you're a female villain doesn't mean you have to be weak in the Star Wars Expanded Universe we have Mara Jade (Thrawn trilogy), Director Isard of Imperial Intelligence (X-Wing series), Gethzerion the Nightsister (some book about Han and Leia) and, though this is a pretty bad example on reflection, Admiral Daala (Jedi Order trilogy). So it's not like a female evil Revan is breaking any moulds here.

The secret compartment behind the plasteel cylinders was discovered in KOTOR 1 - it's a reference to a little subquest. And, strangely, in KOTOR2 it's not actually there to be found. The second compartment, on the other hand, can - as you enter the Ebon Hawk, turn left, and continue to the port bunkroom (where Visas tends to hang out). The compartment should be nearby the bunk at the end.

More like "I am an evil [fill in blank here]! I shouldn't have to put up with cold! You, random passer-by! Surrender your thermal underwear that I might be warm and insulated around my nether regions when flying through space... or DIE!".

What will you do? Select the appearances of Your Revan and/or Your Exile at the beginning of the game, along with their force alignments? Seems unwieldy.

Aha! AHA! It wasn't a lie! /kotor2/streamvoice/802/vash01/ 802vash01021- Master Vash talking about her Padawan, and the force link she shared with him: "The bond can be broken in many ways. If one falls to the Dark Side, the bond may fade and eventually break... this is why when gripped with fear, Kaa was unable to feel our bond. He assumed I was dead." All this time it's been a puzzle as to how Kreia's force bond with the Exile mysteriously evaporated - and here's the answer! The old witch might not have been lying after all! If basic, necessary exposition like THIS is buried in the sound files, what on earth is still in there?

I found Guardian/Master made an interesting force/melee combo. Force Wave was blasting back Sith Lords by the endgame.

It's not like Baldur's Gate was free of spelling mistakes either.

Plans within plans within plans... Well, it's unlikely that 100% of Obsidian Entertainment were wholly happy at the deadline or the finished product. Who would be? Or maybe, if it doesn't go ahead, a disgruntled ex-employee would see their way clear to leaking the tool our modders'd need...

I was under the impression that the Ebon Hawk's navacomputer was voice-coded so that the location of the Unknown World from KOTOR 1 (or the Star Forge if it has not been destroyed) would remain a secret?