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Nah, I'll agree that it takes ten minutes or so to get your eyes used to the HUGE screen, but bring it on. My middle name is MORE. Sound in newer theatres is made to hit every seat, but I guess there are better spots (probably can't avoid some nodal points around the entire cinema). Then again, after all the nightclubs I've been in over the years, I'm losing my hearing anyway. (It's not like I'm gunna miss anything from Skywalker Sound, they don't turn the volume down or anything....) :D

Shaving with a cursed swichblade (-15 to hit and -200 to damage) :D

As long as we can find a substantive, measureable part of, say, morality then we can begin to chart it. I'm not saying its easy, but then again Newton didn't invent calculus by having a doodle on a pad. (Or gravity by being hit on the head with an apple, either.) Then again, the guy who discovered the molecular model for benzine did dream it (its circular, so two of the carbon atoms get to join with the one external molecules, which only works in a circular form. Dream. Also, I've heard that it is becoming more and more common for sheep to be seen crossing those cattle grids on their sides ... ever since one was caught doing it! Either they are gossiping, or their is some sort of synchronicity linkie thingie going on there ...) :D Also, to borrow a concept from the late Douglas Adams, it all depends on the question your asking, as to the answer you'll find. Morality can be scored in various ways, just as the behaviour of light can be predicted using the particle-wave dichotomy, depending on the application. You can use hedonistic economics as a measure, for instance, or place more value on the individual.

Forget the avatar ( *shakes head at poor geeks who really need to get out more* ) I liked your sig. Where did it go? Y'know, the one about stupidity and bad taste being POV?

Richard Kiel was Malak in Land of the Lost! What a cool program that was! Much better than HR Puffnstuff (although that was pretty good, too). And I liked Sigmund the Sea Monsters, too. Good ol' Slurp and Blurp. :cool:

You are all crazy. I sit right up front, what's the point in having a screen forty feet high if you sit back where the aspect ratio makes it look like a tv? Sit up and be CONSUMED in the Force! Peripheral vision overload as special effects overpower your meagre human senses! (Assuming it is going to be a good film, of course: otherwise I won't watch it.) :cool: I remember first watching the Aldous Huxley camp-nazi classic Starship Troopers front row. Man, did those bugs look mean!

We obtained the our originals from here but it appears not to not work for me; I'm not sure if anyone else has them available in unmolested form. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Yep, I thought there was some confusion over scripting and scripting. Well, to get to Pago Pago you'd have to travel for about a day and a half, and they were all almost completely wiped out about a year ago with a gigantic typhoon ... still, it would be a good place to get away from it all ... not sure they have much in the way of internation trunk lines, though: might have to rely on satellites. There is a beach in Dubai that is all top speed WiFi, but I don't think the budget would stretch to mentioning the name of it, so I won't endanger the project by doing so. Linkie works for me. (w00t) :D

Ah, now I understand. That is because science is all about measuring. If you can't measure an hypothesis, then it is not hard science. It is psedoscience, like the soft sciences you mention. This only means that if we can discover some repeatable, meaningful method to measure the pseudosciences, then (apart from the immediate benefit to humankind) you can be a believer! I would suggest (parts of) psychology and morality are well on the way to this. We already have meanful ways to describe both the somatic aspects of psychology and even a moral compass to compare moral judgements with (measured against the Lawful-Chaotic / Good-Evil dual axis Alignment matrix). They just need some more work.

She wasn't in the first game! You're assuming they get it together in the second game, which is counter-intuitive. Otherwise we could talk about Candyman and Micah in their eighties.

Hmmm, I'm not sure I understand that. You mean that whatever the observable qualities of the object is authoritative? Because I can't see how that impedes ideas, and I can't see a (deductively) logical system working any other way ...

I'd rather see that then a paedophile molesting a young girl. At least Candyman and Disciple make a cute couple.

So you don't really disbelieve science, more like a healthy skepticism of it? Nothing wrong with that, especially with a lot of the garbage statistical mis-samples used for poor predictions which are, in turn, misquoted in the media to fill space on a slow-news day. I had a dream when I was very young (about 5yo) that I was dreaming my life. I keep waiting to wake up.

mmm .. calamari ... quick fried with lemon ....

Agre to disagree then. I think it is mad choosing a gender for Revan and the Exile just so you can write some novelisaton about Jolee Bindo after KotOR, or Hanharr after KotOR2, for example. Just restrict your fiction to before the games. There's plenty of scope for padding out the stories before-hand, and the epic quality of the games means that very little could happen afterwards (or before, if you ask me) that could compare to the plots of the games.

Yes. It would solve the problem for Revan. But if you follow the storyline, the Exile would have to be on KoTOR 3 and we would have the same problem. See that I am not trying to impose my will over yours. I don't think some big shot on Lucas Arts is gonna see my post and say hey: Look at what this guy is saying. Let's do KoTOR 3 the way he wants! I am merely expressing my opinions, OK? :cool: <{POST_SNAPBACK}> You could play both Revan and the Exile as PCs, like the second part of Dxun writ large.

Darth Frog, your assistance and information is always well researched and welcome. But don't beat up the guy for asking a question on the Forum! It is not a straight out question, it involves a lot of research (which you have obviously done, otherwise you woudn't be so proud about displaying it). Good info, thanks.

It is possible, but not very plausible, unless you create every movie, every cut-scene an every dialog in double. An even than it would still remain the doubts about Revan's alignment. What I am trying to say is it's perfectly possible to do it in the way it was done for KoTOR 2, but despite the several references to Revan, he/she doesn't have a major role on the game. He plays a role in the storyline (with the references) but it's not a character per se in this game. And I want him to have an effective role in the next installment. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Then have Revan as a PC, so that we can choose. That way, barring any surgical alteration -- which seems beyond the scope of the SW universe, you will have Revan as an integral part of the story and not isolate anyone from the community. Problem solved.

So what? What exactly are you wanting? I don't understand -- you want the KotOR games to be referenced in detail in the other SW literature -- is that right? Why? And why is that more important than including everybody who played the games in the community, of respecting the zeitgeist of KotOR? Would you be prepared to have Revan as a female? Would that still be okay? What about if she were DS. Is that okay? Just so long as she is categorised and labelled, so that she can be referred to in other comics and the greater EU? I think it is better on all counts to have a non-specific Revan and Exile: bathed in myth. Just so I don't exclude you from my vision of Revan and you don't exclude me from yours.

How was I being sexist? I especifically said i would not care if Revan was male or female in my first post. Show me my sexist comments. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Your point of view, whether intentional or not, is sexist. You are stating that -- for whatever reason, and they are hardly legitimate concerns -- characters that people have played in a game, PCs -- who, if the developers have done their job the audience have indetified with and share empathy with -- should be made in your image. That, even you don't regard it as sexist, is selfish, because you are advocating your wants over others to their exclusion. At the least you are insensitive. So take your pick. Are you sexist or selfish, or insensitive?

KotOR already appears in the SW universe. Phantom quoted reams of it in another thread.

Okay, I did answer your questions -- I just didn't want to participate in a flame war if that was your intention. KotOR3 (and there is no certainty it will even be published) would require some creative writing to encapsulate the different threads of the previous two games -- providing it is set after both. But that's what writers are paid for -- being creative. It really isn't that hard, quite a few people have theorised some quite interesting plots on these boards, and they are amateurs (no offence -- in the "not their day job" and not-professional interpretation). I think you are making a molehill into a mountain. It is quite simple to solve the dynamics without disenfranchising any of the audience. Which should be an aim of the game (pun unintended), whether stated or not.

It's random... Either a shop in some obscure part of the game, or the VERY LAST CONTAINER in the game will have one (with my luck, anyway... Don't know how you'll end up). <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Don't encourage him! Q. Why wouldn't this poster use the Search function in the Spoilers forum to find the answer? A. Because they can just interupt any thread with their question and get a response. Alki, learn some netiquette and read the FAQ before posting.

It was someone (surprise!) who isn't involved now (so maybe they are a genius). Blame Azarkon, last page.

I added a fourth point, so you'll have to renumber. You seem to be trolling, but in cae you aren't I will answer your points. First Point. Making KotOR3 much more complicated? Are you kidding? Check out Bioware's Dragon Age (I'll quote for you), as it appears you can't be bothered to look back over the thread: 1.03: What is the storyline of Dragon Age? (Back to Top) For the first time, you choose how your character

I see no dispute regarding his gender. There may be doubts abou his sexuality, but everyone knows that he was a man. If he was a man who liked men, women or dog (creepy, I know) he would still be a man ( a very wierd, deeply disturbed man, bu a man nonetheless). And your point is? I mean. The society described in the SW universe, even by the time of KoTOR is far more advanced than ours, let alone the societies that Michelangelo and Socrates lived in. And there were plenty of witnesses for their actions. I mean Revan was easily one of the most proeminent figures of his time. I can accept that many people couldn't tell wheter Revan was man or woman, since Revan was always masked. But I can't really understand how people more close to him wouldn't know. Dind't Revan ever talked? By the sound of someone's voice you can tell if it's a man or a woman, even if you can't see the face. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> My point is that it is entirely possible to be non-specific about it. Socrates is the father of philosophy. It has been said and re-stated innumerable times that all modern philosophy is just footnotes to Socrates. And we have doubts (albeit small ones) that he even existed. I was merely using this real-world analogy, and expanding this uncertainty to include the gender of the two figures in the KotOR games. And the benefits are: 1. Prevent issolating those in the community who like a female (or the opposite gender to the one that is arbitrarily selected -- and I'll lay a bet now that if one is selected it will be male, which re-inforces the twenty pages of debate in this thread). 2. Encourage people to go and play the games, so that THEY can decide. 3. Add some mystery to the whole epic story. 4. Head off sexist views, like the one you are espousing, whilst pretending to hide behind some artificial ex cathedra GL Papal Bull to "make the stories canon". It is quite possible that Revan and the Exile may be given a fixed gender and alignment. My point, to recap for those with short attention spans, is that it doesn't need to be and would be better if it weren't.