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Ditto. And I wish the Exile looked like that in-game. Well done!

As a matter of interest, who voted for Dr Judith Mossman?

Thanks muchly, Baley! Are Koif's best? I suppose I should install that first because I don't want to have to uninstall and re-install the game again... I'll post my result here when I have done so. :cool: Oh-oh. Can't download John P's textures from his website. There will be a short delay .... ... Downloading John P's now (from Gamespot)

It's apocryphal, but yes. (I would fight until I had spent alll my money, but that's the kinda sociaopath I am. )

... And that is why we are able to debate it endlessly, because there is no higher authority to consult, no real council, not even a disgruntled vagrant ex-Jedi wondering past. " :cool: Actually the best way to incapacitate a Sith would be to put them to sleep. They could be help in perpetual matrix-style controlled environment, and in extreme cases even have their DS personality expunged ...

That's about the size of it: the devil's in the implementation. That's why you have to have a watertight third-party confirmation that you wrote it first. Because you will have to convinve either them, their lawyers or a publisher/broadcaster that it's yours. (Patenting is a whole other ball of expensive wax, though ... ) A little story a lawyer told me: If someone walks up to me in the street and tries to take my wallet, I will fight him. If someone walks up to me and says "You owe me money," for the amount in my wallet, I will argue with them. If a utility company or the government sends me an incorrect bill for the amount of money in my wallet, I will refuse to pay it. If someone sends me a legal notice telling me they are going to sue me for the contents of my wallet, I would give it to him -- otherwise I'll lose twice as much on legal fees. :ph34r:

That's true, e.g. the other KotOR2 board seems to be full of very young boys who write posts using SMS-text spelling. gr8 m8!

PC Zone (UK) had a demo level of Lego Star Wars last issue. (w00t)

incapacitate them, not 'program' them <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Exactly. Render them harmless, with as little force as is necessary. BTW These aren't my personal beliefs! I'm not saying I wouldn't kill a burglar in my house, I'm saying what a Jedi should be aiming to do. If killing is wrong, then anyone killing is either bad or unable to control the situation (via talk / overwhelming non-lethal force, etc). You would probably object if children found guilty of shoplifting were executed. Some people, with an extreme view of the sanctity of life, would not permit even a convicted murderer to be executed -- even if it was in self defence and they would die as a result. That sort of extreme.

I am a little surprised there are so many over-eighteens; I thought the percentages would be reversed. Then again the sample space is far too small to make any real extrapolations. It seems to indicate that either those under 18 were: - not inclined to vote (e.g. don't want to advertise being under age, even in an anoymous poll); - not around to vote (don't spend time on game forums, probably on Yahoo Messanger instead " ). If I were a tabloid journalist I would make up a headline such like: "Shock Poll: Youth turn their backs on RPGs "In a poll released today we see that the people over 18 outnumbered their younger playmates by over 300%. Men dressed in official-looking white coats have taken this to mean that the RPG is dead, after a brief popularity boom in the latter half of the last century. They predict the new millennium will see a brand new type of play. "We predict the new millennium will produce a new play methodology. "Gary Gygax was not available for comment."

Copyright is granted when the manuscript is registered (read: published) by a third party -- but a lawyer will do, even if it is more expensive. The point is you have to have an independent way to prove you wrote it first.

... and, counter-productively, creates more spam.

I like both of those, that latter one doesn't look like the previous avatar -- it's red not blue!

... and spelling. "

Again we have the "End justifies the means" Chaotic Good versus "Do no conscious wrong to anyone under any circumstances" no-hypocrisy-brooked Lawful Good argument. This is a dilemma which means that there is no absolute right answer (otherwise it wouldn't be a dilemma) and that means that everyone who faces the dilemma will have to s9olve it on its merits, everytime. Well, it is always going to be difficult to contain a philosophical debate to one small area; it sometimes helps to frame one problem with another -- although that was a blatant tangent to shoot off on. Blatant plug for my other post: (<{POST_SNAPBACK}>)

We have crossed wires, then. Some people posting in this thread have said that the Jedi Council were wrong to overtly interfere with Revan's mind, by wiping it clean of the Dark Side. I was merely saying that their story is that they did no such thing. I can't find it in this thread, so it must be in another topic! Anyway, let me restate in full: Killing an opponent is the course of action when you cannot over-power them to prevent harm to innocents and themselves. Otherwise it would be morally acceptable to have Jedi acting as judge, jury and executioner -- with the obvious results. Ideally, a person against taking life would not kill an opponent; e.g. in the UK the state death penalty was removed from the statute books (in the sixties, I think). Charles Manson hasn't been, and won't be, executed, even though he is guilty beyond doubt and also beyond redemption. Other serial killers have been executed by the state. I think Jedi are more like the UK/Californian than the Texan/Floridian governments. So Jedi should be disarming and imprisoning the Sith, not running 'em through with 'sabers.

And you well be 22 years 6 months and about a week old. (Well, you might be a week older, anyway)

There is a psychological phenomenon where if ones skills are so far removed from the scale that they don't appear on it, a confident person will assume they are very good at said skill. (Think of people who are tone deaf, but don't know it and insist they are good singers.) I can't for the life of me think what the term is, and I, for once, can't think of how to search for it in an expedient manner. Anyone? FarimirK, you're a psychologist, aren't you?

My version is 1.2 (I bought it the day it was released, and there doesn't seem to be an online upgrade) -- don't know about texture packs!? Where dyagetit? :cool:

That puts us at the same age, then. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Yes it does. 1977 (Summer release). I saw it in Sydney early in the year, just before we took off for our around-the-world trip. I remember that Tom Baker's Dr Who was trying to find a way to beat the The Power of Kroll, which was the Doctor's biggest enemy ever. I left grade four and six months later started third form in the UK. By 1980 I was schooling in Florida (grade six -- seven for English, Maths, Reading), and that's where I saw The Empire Strikes Back. It took me years to cath up on those lost Dr Who episodes. (Fortunately I had all the novelisations, which I continued to read and re-read until I matriculated from secondary school. you've got to have a hobby.) WOW you're 18 now..acording to your profile (w00t) Happy Birthday <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Hey, thanks a bunch, even as it's belated! 21 is not out of Baley's age league. -one who had a crush on 26er <{POST_SNAPBACK}> My partner is older than I am -- although she looks ten years younger.

I tried this with disasterous consequences back when I was working as a croupier. (I guess the disasterous consequences may have been affected by the extraordinary amount of drinking I was doing with all my spare time that I used to spend sleeping. ) Certainly I have gone several days at a time with no sleep whilst partying. True: this is similar to me at the moment; I am also sleeping roughly 5-6 hours early morning and then an additional 1-3 late-afternoon early evening.

Happy birthday Dave!

Funny, I know a lot of people that had chronic insomnia in their late teens. Dr Dement's research (and it is ongoing) indicates that duing the teenager years we need to get up later in the morning ... some schools in Britain have implemented a later beginning for secondary schools with a large effect on the pupils alertness (and consequential memory retention) during the day. Certainly this agrees with my experience. Good for him. Apparently Margaret Thatcher (ex-Prime Minister of UK) used to survive on about four hours a night, too. I hate and love sleeping. I hate that it takes up so much of my time and I love doing it. Does your father take naps during the day? (This is how sleep patterns change as we age, btw -- Dr Dement, again). My father used to sleep in his recliner most of the day whilst watching every news programme all day. All indications are this is good. Do you go flying? (I bet you do -- that's what everyone does!) It took me an inordinate amount of time to teach myself to "throw myself at the floor and miss", but now I have a ball whenever I lucid dream! Feel free to read his book -- as I said, it's cheap -- he doesn't say you can live on fresh air or eat only green things on Tuesday, or anything remotely silly. It is (nearly) all just common sense ... I bet you'll be going "Oh -- so that's why!" all through the book. It is scientific research, not holy scripture: you are quite free to disprove it. As I said, his findings seem to explain sleep in my life quite adequately. I don't remember where I read this (might have been his book) but there was a 'Round-the-World yatchman who started in New Zealand and his autopilot broke the first night. He decided to carry on. (I think it takes about a week to sail across the Tasman Sea.) By the last day he was hallucinating badly; he knew he was in trouble when he saw the crew come running up out of the cabin and throw the lifeboat overboard and jump in -- he was on a solo mission! Yep, I had a similar experience when I was early twenties: I offered to drive a friend home, which was about 100km. The drive up was unremarkable, and I felt so normal when I got their I declined he offer for a beverage stimulant. On the trip back I started nodding off -- at one point I "saw" a toddler hit the front of my car and explode! Did that wake me up? You bet. The subconscious succeeded in raising my heart-rate and jump starting my attention. (I have no idea why I became so tired so quickly.) You're a programmer, aren't you? That's the circadien cycle; you will end up sleeping later and later without consciously getting up and reseting the 25hr timer by exposing your eyes to bright multi-spectrum light (e.g. sunlight).

Nope. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Apologies: I wrote this late and realised afterwards that I had only put obscure character references in, which is not in keeping with the standard of netiquette I like to maintain! The Film "Total Recall" is based on a short story called "We can remember it for you wholesale" by Phillip K. D1ck (who is a very important Sci-Fi writer, up there with all the best like Asimov and Clarke). Made into a film starring Arnold "Governator" Schwartzenegger (and there was a novelisation written by Piers Anthony, I think.) Read the short story if you don't want to watch an action film with Arnie in it. (But I did like the film, and my comment was addressed to it.) PKD, as he was known, wrote a lot about what is the meaning of self, and lots of his stories (he wrote "Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep", which you may have seen the film, starring Harrison Ford as Decker, "Bladerunner" -- do see the "Director's Cut", without the corny voice-over as this one doesn't dumb-down the ending; another short story "Minority Report" -- also a film starring Tom Cruise.)

Again, do you really think this is possible? Honestly. What would contain her? A force shield? 100 meters of concrete walls? No, there is not one single thing they could have done to contain her. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> If it is not possible, see my previous post about insufficient control of the situation, above (). Lack of options = blunt action. Again, what does this have to do with anything? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> We are discussing the moral choices/implications of the Jedi Council's willful actions on REvan, aren't we? So if they didn't actually do anything, then the discussion is moot. (A very long digression over three posts to make an aside, but I think I've made myself clear now.)