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That would actually make it seem closer to the dreadful 'Dark Alliance' series rather than to the original BG saga. We wouldn't want that, now would we?

Um, so then nothing is a true RPG, and at the same time, anything is? It all depends on what you consider to be an RPG or something? Come now, you can't have a discussion if every term is absolutely debatable and perfectly undefined. I agree though, that there may be more variety as to what games can be considered a RPG than with any other genre, but still, some games just don't fit that description, no matter what. It doesn't mean they are worse, or I don't like them, no. But it doesn't make sense to call them what they're not. For me, rather than game mechanics, it's the chance to create a new personality (which not necessarily implies creating a new character) and develop it through actions and plot choices what I consider to be the fundamental characteristic of a RPG. A game which meets this criteria I will usually consider it a RPG, and vice versa. Not a very complex criteria, yet very discriminating, you see.

In fact this is not regarding the ending scene of the game itself, but the 'post-ending' in which you see how your actions have affected the world. Obviously for the endgame I want to have a cinematic experience, which can hardly be provided by a dialogue. However, for the 'post-ending' part, I can live with a well written and moving dialogue, even though nothing beats a slideshow a la Fallout.

Yep. But it's more than that, it turns out that the more effects you combine into a single spell, no matter how weak those effects are, cause the spell failure chance to skyrocket, effectively negating the combination advantages. Another L A M E thing about the custom spell system was that you had to purchase the spells from some shop wizard. Funny that even after attaining a level of power in which you could have kicked any mage's ass easily, you still had to get out of your Tower of High Wizardry to go shopping for spells. Not to mention you would be charged an insane amount of money for a moderately powerful custom spell you had designed. ROFL They had an excellent idea for a CRPG magic system, which they managed to waste completely. Suckage.

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Sadly, diablo lacks the role-playing part in RPG. No real choices, you just listen to people tell you stuff and off you go to kill some monsters. That's more like an action game to me. Action with RPG combat mechanics, perhaps, but action at last.

Funny you would say that. It seems originally Deadeye Duncan was supposed to survive the bombardment and escape the planet. You would encounter him later on Manaan. For some reason that encounter got cut before release, but it's still in the game and there was this mod to re-enable it. It wasn't really completed and so there was a glitch with it but it's still fun.

In fact since you automatically receive the 'weapon finesse: lightsaber' feat, it actually pays to go for DEX rather than STR, since a STR of 20 will earn you +5 dmg per hit and to hit rolls,, but the same value of DEX will grant you a +5 dodge bonus to Def and to hit rolls. Um, wait. We're talking about K2 right? Where no matter what you do, you can't get yourself killed. Never mind then. <_<

Meh. Personally, I don't take much joy in lying down in the grass or staring at the trees. But then again, I don't take much joy in anything. Just let people sink in the bottomless pit of nothingness that is nihilism.

You can be a rampant powerlamer in almost any RPG. That's fine with me for as long as it's not forced upon me.

I don't know if that's supposed to be good... or bad.

Nuka-Cola, the flavored softdrink of the post-nuclear world. Warm and flat.

Dude! Now that's Real Ultimate Power!

Now, if we're talking about a sharpened plastic spoon, that's some serious sh!t.

Conformism won't get you far.

Um, yeah. James Woods as a voice actor definitely ensures the game is a RPG. But then again, any reason you can think of is enough to support that anything is more of a RPG than Diablo. )

Welcome to the wonderful world of TOMBS. ) Seriously now, it's a widely accepted fact that there's no point in posting in message boards other that to waste your time. "

Pray you don't find yourself in a situation in which you are forced to find out how much truth is in those words.

You should listen to these other guys and try Fallout 1&2. Your RPG collection just isn't complete without those two. Welcome to the forums, btw.

Well, from my experience when you prove someone wrong they will either quit posting in that thread and act as if nothing ever happened or just act irrational. And um, it's not like I benefit or anything from changing some random person across the planet's opinion on something. Dude... rat pie!

Never doubted it for a moment.

I'm 'pleased' to announce that after like 6 patches, the Fall is still as unplayable in its spanish version as it was in the first, unpatched german version. Way to go!

Yep. As I said, you can also fly. And yes, I suffered the experience of playing Morrowind entirely, both expansions included. Only after comparing the fighting prowess of my first character (a Paladin) to the craptacular performance of my second (some brand of mage) I fully realized how badly broken the magic system was. So, what's the use of a virtually infinite number of spells, none of which are cost-effective? You could craft your own spells alright, but as I said, they were useless in true combat. For the stronger spells, you had to carry a ton of potions to restore your mana. As for the weaker ones, you had to spam them a zillion times to kill a ****roach. Sucked big time if you ask me. As I said elsewhere, a brilliant idea, a poor implementation. EDIT: WTF? They filtered out any of an order or suborder (Blattodea syn. Blattaria) of chiefly nocturnal insects including some that are domestic pests? What gives?

true .. but people are way to stubborn to ever change opinion in here! I'm beginning to think discussions are futile .. Eh. I realized quite some time ago that attempting to change other people's views on almost any subject through message boards is not only a draining and futile exercise, it's also extremely frustrating. Even in case you manage to totally destroy others' arguments or logic, it's unlikely they'll change their minds. Alas, nobody likes to be proven wrong. Since then I only post to exchange viewpoints, have fun, and on occasion, troll some.

Only if you're proud supporter of Munchkinism. Hm. That's a comment I would expect from Hades only. I mean, an unbalanced game mechanics doesn't necessarily imply a worse or unenjoyable game. K1 was ridiculously easy. The same seems to apply to K2. So, it seems both games are matched in that respect. I don't know if you have actually played the game, but I will refrain from doing blind judgements until I try it for myself.