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Efficiency and energy transferred are not the same thing. I'm not going to argue that Lee can do more with his muscles than Tyson could, but nevertheless, Tyson is stronger. I wouldn't know, I don't think one has ever tried. I think that has more to do with mastering pain than delivering a strong punch. No facts there, buddy.

Faster, that is debatable. Stronger... are you on crack?

Err... the reply was directed at Flatus, not you. Carry on with your 1337 ninja frenzy. :ph34r: (End of thread)

If you say so.

Is it?

So are most martial arts these days.

You are right. There are no movies of boxers learning teh ultimate secret martial art and then proceeding to beat dozens of uber commandos of death that are trying to take over the world. Therefore, boxing is not a martial art.

Don't remind me.

Are you familiar with the term "straw man"? Ah, I guess the irony is wasted on you.

"The smell

In the future, after an unspecified climatic catastrophe, the world is a wasteland. Lots of raiders and bandits are free to rob, maim and murder. That is what they do with the PC's family and that is what causes his lust for revenge. The PC proceeds to walk through the wastes to some place called the "new government" that is nothing but a waste dump from where the self appointed president (which is a part-time farmer) is trying to unite the wasteland. Obviously, he's happy to have a new mercenary willing to get shot for him. And thus, you embark on your crusade to avenge your family and stuff. I didn't really get much into the story, as I installed and uninstalled the game in the same day.

Well, it most certainly can't be worse.

Yeah. I always thought it was lame that you couldn't get scientific advancements from other civs through war. Guess they don't want to give war too much importance. Depends on what are your aims for the war. At any rate, making war without significant technological advantage/numerical superiority/advantage in industrial capacity is neither easy nor fun. If that's the case, I'd say let them attack, repel their offensive and let them chill. The AI isn't that great at planning naval operations once you deal with the first waves. At that point, I'd aim for other victory conditions. And unless you are thinking of turning the world into a wasteland in which the only remaining civ is yours, don't even think of using nukes. Don't bother building them, either. Everyone will instantly hate you when you drop the first, and most will declare war when you drop the second. Ironically enough, it's perfectly fine to exterminate whole cultures with standard weaponry, but use a nuke and lo! world coalition on your doorstep.

It's always nice to be in agreement with an Obsidz VIP. ^_^

My god... you were serious. Take my advice. Get help.

Ever heard of the Spartans?

Man, interbreeding is disgusting. And just think about their potential children!

I tried the euro version. It sucked, regardless of the bugs. You can dig up the thread, I'm not going to bother repeating myself. :thumbsdown: Why the hell isn't there a :thumbsdown: emote? Perhaps OE thought it would be too risky to have their boards feature one since it could be spammed in topics regarding their games?

Can't argue with that. :ph34r:

Right. But Lee's muscles can deliver only so much power unless you believe in dragon power or some of that crap. And that much power is not enough to knock down Tyson unless caught by surprise/delivered from behind. That shows just how uninformed you are. A boxer only blocks blows with his guard if he's either shortening distances to strike back, or trying to drain the opponent. Otherwise, he dodges. Saying that a boxer is limited to his hands is not true. Watch more boxing. I'd still not face a boxer that had his hands tied to his back. He can still headbutt your ass to the ground without breaking a sweat. And he can bite your ear off! I don't see why you would think that fighting without gloves is an advantage, since it's not the "pain" of the blow that knocks you out, but the kinetic energy delivered. And, given the chance to pick a weapon, Tyson wouldn't pick "knuckle punchers". He would pick a shotgun. "Street fights" lol...

With no arbiter to stop the fight, Tyson would kill Bruce. I almost took you seriously. Almost. You forgot to mention ninjas, though. He weighs less than average because he's shorter. Not because he's any less compact. Seriously, if you people think that Lee can knock out a professional, hardened heavyweight champion in one hit, you need to get out more, or watch more real martial arts fights. I'm not arguing that Lee could get in more hits, but when distances are shortened it always comes down to a blow exchange. And if Mike lands one, it's good night, Gracie.

Well, obviously they don't consider this thread and the "malicious content" posted therein as dangerous as an all-out politics-based flame war.

The Second Law of Thermodynamics states that the universe tends toward high levels of SPAM.

You are right. I'd bet Lee can run much faster than Tyson. Run, as in run away.

Not if your opponent has the equivalent of a kevlar vest... in raw muscle. Probably poor Bruce would bruise his little pink fists trying it.