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I'll trust a dragon the day even one of them speaks out against their own kind, and take action against all these flame-deaths... until then I find the very idea of 'moderate dragon' to be a laughable, borderline own-species-traitorous, idea. #MakeFaerunGreatAgain

Hey whatever floats your boat man, I just now from all the TV I watch that Dragons are evil and behind 80% of all flame related deaths.. Can't argue with numbers.

Interstellar is similar to Inception in scope and ambition, it's very much a personal story with a lot of visual bling on top and sci fi elements to justify it. Ex Machina is a suspense thriller about AI and anthropomorphizing - it has great build up, but I was dissapointed by the ending. It's has a cool indie vibe though. In the vein of Ex Machina I can recommend 'Her' - also about AI and anthropomorphizing. Except as a kinda romantic drama instead of thriller.

He is a dragon.

Games - not politics

Reminds me of the Command and Conquer shooter 'renegade'.. They weren't that succesfull with crossover genres at the time.

On that we agree- which would only cause even more trouble.

All right, there's a ****load of bias hidden under that remark HH, I hope you see that.. For one you focus solely on what 4-5 instances and extrapolate a general view on how every single Muslim regards democracy in relation to his/her religion. Where it's obviously and extremely complex and personal thing for each and every one- simply based on the many political parties and interest groups etc who seem to disagree .. a lot .. Are the majority anti-democratic? Perhaps, I don't really know, but it seems unfair to conclude that on such a small sample size. By your definition of 'integration' it also seems clear you mean complete assimilation, where the immigrant must give up all personal beliefs that are incompatible with your idea of what our society is. And on top of that - I hold views that would be regarded as extremely subversive and disruptive to the status quo by the current leading party of my country.. Am I then anti-democratic? Am I then a threat, in response to the fact that others who have held a similar view in the past have committed terrorism? I think it's cool and essential that we actively criticize anti-democratic movements and sentiments - there's just historical precedence for being careful of not associating everyone in a group with the extremism it can produce. Especially when that association becomes politically motivated.

Problem is how do you tell them apart? What if the radicalise after they migrate here? Legally it's problematic in the extreme to reject someone on assumed association etc.

Have you been to mosques? or are you basing this on what people who also haven't been to mosques say? Because I have and I talk with moderate Muslims- who are extremely worried about radicalization etc. It's like saying that your average dude in a church should be vigilant and report any signs of infiltration from the baptist church of westboro or a Jehovas Witness.. It doesn't really happen like that. They are pretty separate and the recruiting happens in a few select mosques that moderates stear very very clear of - and authorities are already aware of. But yeah you of course have the recruiters who intermingle and invite the young and impressionable types into the lion's den.. If we really want to stop giving them propaganda fuel then we should not ask each and every Muslim to distrust his neighbors and friends (guess what happens then?). We should perhaps stop bombing the Middle East to the stone age and actually start dealing with the region like a potential ally, helping them deal with their massive problems with books and know how.. That's would be a figurative bomb under the recruitment effort. Rather than a literal one under the peace effort.

It's always a great idea to let idiots dig their own grave- we had a similar situation here and the guy made an ass of himself on tv, causing many moderate muslims to speak out against him and his actions. It seems clear though that the only one who really had a network was the Nice attacker, which is always worrying of course.. but let's go with your estimate and that's as you say 10- out of what though, several tens of thousand? I don't think it's fair to assume guilt on the remaining pool of people just because they share their faith. Just like I don't think socialists should be prosecuted for the actions of Bader Meinhoff etc. Of course Islam should be and is criticized for the rather worrying streak of violence committed in it's name, I'm just not comfortable with the blanket generalizations. Especially not when the vast majority of said generalization are really just trying their best to stay low and not get caught in the crossfire. The problem just arises when you start assigning blame on association. As that has a tendency to snowball.. Like blaming men for terror, as it's only really men that commit mass murders etc.

Closed due to length, new thread here.

Previous thread here. I found an interesting article from New York Magazine- Democracies End Quoting Plato's Republic and 5 regimes, the warning that tyranny springs from an overflow of democracy in a climate of inequality, he draws parallels to the current political climate of the western world. and last post from previous thread.

Fair enough, but you know Interpol and the various national agencies have agents, informers and intelligence workers, who are Muslim, rooting out (among many things) extremism in private mosques right? There are plenty of police officers, government clerks, spies and what-have-you working for your safety right now - who are Muslim. Edit: I'm sure there's, at least somewhat limited, info on anonymous calls that have helped investigators zero in on cell recruitment etc? Although they have to protect sources of course.

We're discussing as if the fringe 5% of both extremes represent the majority view. The vast majority of people swing from mildly positive to slightly weary - with the biggest pool planted solid in the "don't really care" camp. Sure there's crazy apologists and straight-up genocide fantasists, but if you put anyone you disagree with in the opposing extreme- well.. let's just say that it's not that conductive to a good debate. As said many times- immigration is not pretty and there are clear problems with any religion and culture that should be addressed. But blaming all Muslims is straight into femi-nazi land, where all men are genetically inferior and 2 seconds away from raping everything. Nuances please... Edit: That said, I do hope this will wake up the 'middle ground' and all those in the 'don't care' camp to not just rescind themselves with inaction. Either we do this, pay for it and actually make it work or we don't and send them back. Wishwashery is getting people killed.

EU has no interest in attacking Russia, ever.. But the constant invasion of Scandinavian air and sea space and saber rattling is getting us a little defensive.. To say the least.

Why? Fear

Almost sounds like a Hollywood'esque assassination coverup... It's like the 70s all over again.

Some private videos on the net seem to indicate that some of the shooters are white nationals- too early to guess at ideology. It is the anniversary for the Breivik attack though. https://www.reddit.com/r/news/comments/4u3lps/shots_fired_in_munich_shopping_centre_bbc_news/

Not Sunset Invasion?

Probably don't want it leaked and used in recruitments, but yeah- there's been widespread rumors in some of the muslim suburbs (sorry source is a Danish article) that secret service orcehstrated the whole thing.. Can't blame them too hard for grasping at straws, but this is just fuel on that pyre.

While 4 was awesome I really couldn't stand the art style and with each new game for me the gameplay has become much more shallow and the art style worse. Shame, I really loved the series.

Or flying a jet and 'Danger Zone' blasts the airwaves..

As always when a technologically superior people gets invaded by a technologically inferior... Oh wait..

I hope, but if the Le Pens of Europe manage to rally the center-right then EU is done for - it might not be war, just yet, but hardcore nationalism will shatter any chance for reform. Then they will turn on immigrants in time.