Katarack21

Well, murdering the baby in the Stalwart questline is the Disfavored option, isn't it? And there's one point during the Conquest where the Disfavored option is to ambush and slaughter the entirety of a peace envoy. But in general I think you're right; they don't get as much opportunity to show it off as the Chorus does.

They could implement a system similar to spell crafting in Tyranny, which was honestly one of the best parts of that game, where as you reach the last two PL levels as a wizard you get to design a couple spells around your own specific desires.

I've also been told that Una sells it, but for whatever bloody reason Una doesn't show up in my game any more so I can't check. Kinda pissed about that, actually. >.<

I think that's the Animancer's Blade. Soo..crafting doesn't make weapon glow ? at all ? That's saaad..... I'm not gonna say take my word for it, but I don't *think* so, no. I believe all the glowing weapons I've found were like such from the start.

When the Scarlet Chorus takes a village, they do 'the culling'. Every able-bodied man, woman, and child is given a weapon and told to murder their family or be murdered by the Chorus. Those who survive, join the Chorus. The Chorus is known to loot, murder, and rape anybody they feel like during the conquering stage prior to the culling. Kyro's Peace doesn't cover people who aren't part of the Empire, so there are *no* rules limiting what they can do to the people their conquering--and you find out this is a thing that happens very early on, if you have the Scarlet Chorus take Lethians Crossing and you get the line "The Scarlet Chorus flooded Lethian's Crossing with overeager and undisciplined recruits. In the first few days of occupation, settlers suffered under rampant theft, murder, rape, and arson." I don't know how you could think the Scarlet Chorus are "fairly good guys". It's literally a horde of murderous, rapist thugs handed weapons and shoved at Kyros's enemies. and their leader..didn't he steal soul or something too ? And think the other 'blue' were bad as well...just don't recall what it was . Voices of Nerat did in fact steal "souls", or minds or personalities or however you think of it, through a long process of flaying people alive. He even did this to Graven Ashes *son* just prior to the events of the game. The other side, the Disfavored, are genocidal racists. They're both *really* ****ed up. One of the disturbingly well-done aspects of the game is how very easy it can be to identify with either one of these groups, and even come to like or admire them, even *knowing* how terribly, horribly evil they really are. I personally found Tyranny to be a very nuanced experience of trying to be a good person and making good choices in a world that is ran and administered entirely by bone-chilling evil; every decision you make ends up as some sort of moral compromise, and there's really no way to progress through the game with a "clean" moral slate. yeah I know.. Got to read some bickering about who was the best to side with hilarious reading! I usually go with the rebel and kill everyone else . The only one I had alot of hard time with (as making me doubt)...was..uh...Talon? that Judge guy ? But while they were screwed up evil...gotta say , they did paint them well though . I mean that Nerate was close to Sith Lord of twisted voices like creepy.... I kinda enjoy in a game seeing 'new' (Sort of , if you live under a rock like meh) sort of vilain and those 2 were new to me . Not something like something else from some other game or book , y'know . Agreed. I particularly enjoy Graven Ashe; he's a major antagonist and possibly villain whose powers and fall to darkness both center around his empathy and compassion for his followers. It's something unique and fascinating to think about, how such traits generally thought of as "good" can be twisted to serve evil.

I read that (on the wiki) . Why did he interfer though ? the wiki doesn't say .. edit: oh and why after he got crushed by the moon , she sort of celebrated honoring him ? shouldn't she be pissed instead , he got in the way of her throw ? Because "preservation", especially of worked, crafted objects, was at that time still part of his portfolio. The gods are just constructs running on complex programming; I don't think they're *capable* of doing anything other than following their natures. And it's implied that Ondra was deeply in love with Abydon, and while she believed that killing him was necessary she wasn't at all happy about it.

Ondra's a good point; she threw the moon at Eora in order to destroy the leftover Engwithan technology not long after the God's were actually created. Abyddon only interfered in order to stop her.

I think that's the Animancer's Blade.

Does it really matter whether a unique is legendary or not when you can easily get enough money to upgrade them to legendary late game? Money yes, not so sure about the materials. however, i could never seem to find enough pyrite to upgrade a lot of my gear to exceptional, let alone superb or beyond. I've been finding lot's of pyrite by killing Fire Giants near Ashen Maw.

When the Scarlet Chorus takes a village, they do 'the culling'. Every able-bodied man, woman, and child is given a weapon and told to murder their family or be murdered by the Chorus. Those who survive, join the Chorus. The Chorus is known to loot, murder, and rape anybody they feel like during the conquering stage prior to the culling. Kyro's Peace doesn't cover people who aren't part of the Empire, so there are *no* rules limiting what they can do to the people their conquering--and you find out this is a thing that happens very early on, if you have the Scarlet Chorus take Lethians Crossing and you get the line "The Scarlet Chorus flooded Lethian's Crossing with overeager and undisciplined recruits. In the first few days of occupation, settlers suffered under rampant theft, murder, rape, and arson." I don't know how you could think the Scarlet Chorus are "fairly good guys". It's literally a horde of murderous, rapist thugs handed weapons and shoved at Kyros's enemies. and their leader..didn't he steal soul or something too ? And think the other 'blue' were bad as well...just don't recall what it was . Voices of Nerat did in fact steal "souls", or minds or personalities or however you think of it, through a long process of flaying people alive. He even did this to Graven Ashes *son* just prior to the events of the game. The other side, the Disfavored, are genocidal racists. They're both *really* ****ed up. One of the disturbingly well-done aspects of the game is how very easy it can be to identify with either one of these groups, and even come to like or admire them, even *knowing* how terribly, horribly evil they really are. I personally found Tyranny to be a very nuanced experience of trying to be a good person and making good choices in a world that is ran and administered entirely by bone-chilling evil; every decision you make ends up as some sort of moral compromise, and there's really no way to progress through the game with a "clean" moral slate.

I think that's the point. They're *not* all-powerful, they're *not* omnipotent, they're not really any better than Kith. They're not *actually* gods. They call themselves gods and they have immense power, but all they actually are is sentient complex constructs built around philosophical ideals--and they were built by Kith hands around Kith philosophies, so they are in the end every bit as ****ty and flawed as Kith.

Not true, Abyddon was the first.

He'd tell everybody he's working for the Huana, but he'd actually be setting up various enterprises with the VTC, while behind the scenes he's actively helping the RDC.

"Adra man seems to think he can do as he wants in the deadfire. Too bad for him I've got a ship aimed straight at him, and I'm not afraid to sail it." "You don't know until you're called to be a Herald, but I really believe I'd track him down even if I didn't have a ship, and I think most of the people in the Deadfire would have done that, too."

Why would they have had to make it non-negotiable? You get a choice about whether-or-not to become a god at the end of Throne of Ball. I don't see a reason that it would have to be forced in Deadfire, really.

That isn't a bug. That is the line that reflects the highest possible approval from Xoti. It's triggering in the right place. Someone just needed to do a pass to make sure that reaction made sense. They're on record as stating that there's a number of places where the reaction's don't make sense and asking people to report those so they can remove/fix them. In my mind, that counts as a bug.

i just think it's a tad... tilted to judge the evil/good of a military or a military doctrine using modern measurements when these actions take place in an iron age world. things change, values change. etc. I can see where you're coming from, but the Scarlet Chorus was written with these things with the *intention* that they'd be judged as evil. The Disfavored and the Scarlet Chorus are designed to be the two faces of evil; cold, calculating, pragmatic evil vs wild, chaotic, uninhibited evil. Both also have good sides to them; the Disfavored are disciplined, honorable, and respect the law while the Scarlet Chorus is egalitarian, values freedom, and considers individual achievement to be the best measure of leadership. The choice your supposed to have is "What values are more important to me? What moral compromises will I make for those values?"

That's not entirely true, and there's a whole early game sidequest addressing this exact issue. There's a law (whose name eludes me right now) enforced severely by Nerat that protects children under certain age from being inducted into the Chorus on pain of death. You can even use this law yourself to give a better to life to a guy who should objectively be too young to serve, but slipped through because his gang boss is a moron. You mean Vittles? All that quest states is that the law in question requires him to be protected by his gang-boss until he's of age to serve as a full chorus member, as far as I remember. I don't think it actually states that he can't join the Chorus, just what his position in the Chorus is as a child. I could be wrong, though.

The only god that I agree with to some extent is actually Skaen, but that's just because I'm a proletariat rebel who wants to bring down the entire classist system in a massive spray of noble blood. Unfortunately I feel like he got flanderized into "evil" in this game and is a total ****bag. If anything he should be working with Eothas to bring down the other gods and their oppressive system, just in an infinitely more violent fashion than Eothas is doing it.

...there was a coherent ending to ME 3? How'd I miss *that*.

When the Scarlet Chorus takes a village, they do 'the culling'. Every able-bodied man, woman, and child is given a weapon and told to murder their family or be murdered by the Chorus. Those who survive, join the Chorus. The Chorus is known to loot, murder, and rape anybody they feel like during the conquering stage prior to the culling. Kyro's Peace doesn't cover people who aren't part of the Empire, so there are *no* rules limiting what they can do to the people their conquering--and you find out this is a thing that happens very early on, if you have the Scarlet Chorus take Lethians Crossing and you get the line "The Scarlet Chorus flooded Lethian's Crossing with overeager and undisciplined recruits. In the first few days of occupation, settlers suffered under rampant theft, murder, rape, and arson." I don't know how you could think the Scarlet Chorus are "fairly good guys". It's literally a horde of murderous, rapist thugs handed weapons and shoved at Kyros's enemies. i'm not saying i agree with the practice or anything, but marauders have been a staple in warfare from pre-history up to the american civil war. and they're still seen in small numbers and isolated conflicts or even a part of mainstay modern military forces in a diluted form (such as unrestricted warfare), it's still in use as an acceptable modern military doctrine. To some degree, but looting from civilians, random murder of civilians, and *especially* rape of anybody--civilian or military--are all considered war crimes by international law.

Instead, we ended up with THIS:1528008462825.png So now were listing bugs and saying that reflects a cheapened, lessened companion system?

Funny story, one time they invited me to a game of Orlan's head, and one of them playing was actually an Orlan. As an ex-slave Wild Orlan reincarnated as an orlan nature godlike, I would definitely want to slap that orlan lmao

Worst thing I've seen the crew do in my game is play Orlan's Head. Which I definitely do *not* approve of.

When the Scarlet Chorus takes a village, they do 'the culling'. Every able-bodied man, woman, and child is given a weapon and told to murder their family or be murdered by the Chorus. Those who survive, join the Chorus. The Chorus is known to loot, murder, and rape anybody they feel like during the conquering stage prior to the culling. Kyro's Peace doesn't cover people who aren't part of the Empire, so there are *no* rules limiting what they can do to the people their conquering--and you find out this is a thing that happens very early on, if you have the Scarlet Chorus take Lethians Crossing and you get the line "The Scarlet Chorus flooded Lethian's Crossing with overeager and undisciplined recruits. In the first few days of occupation, settlers suffered under rampant theft, murder, rape, and arson." I don't know how you could think the Scarlet Chorus are "fairly good guys". It's literally a horde of murderous, rapist thugs handed weapons and shoved at Kyros's enemies.