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I was not talking about immersion through story, I was talking about immersion through combat.

Menial quests make me feel uneasy I would not feel very important doing these menial qeusts, hope I can avoid them in the game. Why would an ogre need to steal pigs? He could just crush the owner and take them. No, its done to appeal to the players who will play anyway, not to get more players. Thats up to Obsidian not you. Its purely their choice and down to their opinion of how to approach this. My opinion is that, no. You can appeal to a large audience just by making a great game, you dont need to artificially compensate for the lacklusterliness of the game by making graphics shinier or animations smoother.

So it is currently totally broken.

Seems alright

I dont know I dont play BB but devs get in here!

Nooooo! You are best off aplying it and then seeing if it works. But YOU YOURSELF cant be the judge whether it works if you are making the game for an enormous audience, not just for yourself. Onlt the enormous audience can judge meaningfully. And that means releasing the game and getting the due criticism. Also in case anyone is confused, Marcvs Caesar deleted most of his post that is just before my 2 posts.

And in this case whether it works better or not is down to pure opinion. And whos opinion is that? Everyone has their own. The way you find out if more people think its better or not is to innovate with something new and then people will judge and let you know. If you cut off the innovation by saying that my opinion is above the opinion of all players then nothing new will come out at all and you have stagnation. Also, in our hearts we all love you.

Yeah. Not a better solution, a new solution. I agree with you. Also, I love you (as a fellow human being).

Okay sorry grumpymoose I was wrong about that one. But there is such a thing as dysfunctional communication. Defending other people is still really dysfunctional though - you are discouraging them from defending themselves so they will never learn to do so. Considering grumpymoose is an adult who is capable of that. If you have a small child who is not, then it is understandable that you defend him, but not another adult. Thats hugely dysfunctional.

Because its realistic. Turn based feels awfully fake and takes away from the immersion of 6 real people doing combat alongside one another.

No it isnt. Whether it is better or not in the end has absolutely nothing to do with it. If it takes things forward or even tries, its innovation. Whether its forward to worse or better is irrelevant to whether its innovation. At the end of the day, this is how you innovate. You take things forward and try what works and what doesnt. The only thing that sticking to status quo aciheves is stagnation. If the innovation does not work out, we learn from it and create something more innovative yet. Sticing to status quo just because it didnt quite work out is the most retarded solution ever.

Cool, thanks for the info friend.

Fair enough, but I think we can also take the best aspects and ways to implement simulationism and best aspects from gameplayism and integrate them in an interesting hybrid and make them operate together in harmony. The key is to not think things too simple - that you can always only do it this way or that way or thats it. You can always hybridize any way to do something with an other way to do something and small modifying in the funamental workings of a system can make a huge difference. Its called innovation and it is very much a good thing. Now if we forged a scale on one end of it would be BG1 and on the other end it would be uhm...Dragon age 2. Where do you place Poe on this scale? I would place it 80% towards the BG1 so its fine. And what is that system? How is it different from infinity? The only changes I know of are that there is a stash and lack of carry weight which I cant personally see making a huge difference because the system in Infinity was completely broken, at least in the IWD games. In BG it was a tad better because you couldnt carry as many oodles of ****.

I dont like stuff that sucks.

And why?

But it wasnt.

So...purchase it.

And can you have like 20 skeletons like in Diablo 2?

And why is that?

AND I DID. I was actually pointing out his dysfunctional communication. Lephys, you are defending him. Whom am I defending and how? I am defending noone. You are projecting your thoughts onto me Lephys which means you need to calm down.

WTF cant your friend purchase the game for themselves if they want it? You can just give them the money for it?

And thats the problem. OP presented this map as the one in game. This is why you moderate all such threads to the backer beta forum so that this retarded discussion that is in this thread would not even develop. In BB forum someone wil smash it right onto you that hey, das not the map. You are blind Lephys. I know because it takes you a developer to tell you its blurry for you to know it. QFT what?

Yeah but digital money still needs to be backed up by gold, otherwise we will fall victim to inflation.

Romance wont be in poe lets end thread/ There isnt going to be any meaningful discussion in this forum about romance because we have nothing to base the discussion on.

Thats great. **** traditions, Obsidian with innovation up in this mother****er. Because Obsidian decided so. Their rationale behind this decision was that "we think its good". Do you disagree or what were you saying again? Thing is, if you disagree, at least have the guts to say it out loud.