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Oh, mine are questionable? Then by all means show me yours... Yes they were. That you claim that 200 thousand Serbs left of their own free will and that 1000 civilians killed in a week is anything but a genocide is ridiculous. Do you really know so little? We used them yesterday in our opening statement in Hag, the trial has just begun... Excuse me if I don't believe you. They are holding a grudge, but not anything like the Croats are doing. We have no problems in Bosnia...

We lost 30 planes in the Bosnian war, that was the majority of our air force. The enemy had hundreds. There was no competing with the whole world in the war. as can be seen from the results(it was simply a game of numbers). But we didn't just roll over when they told us to, especially with Kosovo and the NATO bombings.

http://www.ironworksforum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=24839

Pretty much this and as far as I remember there was an optimal party composition, that you needed to take. Or just take a bard and spam songs. XD

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Huh just checked for some news, and found new info. http://wccftech.com/intel-haswelle-x99-chipset-wellsburg-details-leaked-ddr4/#ixzz2vb1Yymxk

I bought a Seasonic x660 in anticipation of a new build, I have a Vertex 4 ssd which is currently on a sata2 mb (it should preform a lot better on sata3) and an old Antec Sonata III case, which I can't afford to replace in my current budget (I don't want to go cheap on a case). I should have a little over 1000 euros by the end of the year. So 500-550 euros on a CPU, 250-300 on a MB(Though I would like to go all out and get the Asus Rampage V), around 100 for RAM (I don't plan to go all out for RAM, because as you said it will not offer much early on) and the rest on a decent cooling solution (the new noctua nh-d14 successor is looking nice). edit: Now that I think about it, I would need a new case, the lga 2011 boards are mostly EATX, which would not fit in my case. Hmmmm a **** in my plan. Maybe it's time to go supper Jew. XD

Well I'm only changing mobo/CPU and ram. My budget for that is around 1000 euros. I have a 560 Ti which is still doing work, though I would replace it next year. Pretty much, I guess we will have to wait and see. If they go with some insane prices I will go with the Haswell refresh or Broadwell if it comes out and probably get a new graphics card too.

Yeah, I will be using it for gaming and rendering (3dsmax, softimage, artlantis and similar stuff). But it's mostly future proofing, I bought this rig over 5 years ago and it served me well, processor wise, to this day. What I want now is to get in on the 8-core and DDR-4 so I can leave it alone for another 5 years. It all depends if the prices are feasible for me, mainly the processor cost and the ram cost. And I don't really like that the non E variants from intel are using paste instead of solder.

Yeah it all over r/leagueoflegends.

http://www.historija.ba/d/323-zapocela-vojna-intervencija-nato-a-u-bih/ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scott_O%27Grady#Shootdown Shot down planes during NATO bombings. http://www.scribd.com/doc/25309063/Spisak-Oborenih-NATO-Letilica http://www.truthinmedia.org/Bulletins2000/tim2000-5-1.html http://jrv127.tripod.com/nato.html As for the French troops, well one of the "members" testified in Hag with a voice modulator and a hidden face how we held them as hostages. Do you even know what a strawman argument means? They left because the Croatian army chased them away during operation Storm. Yeah 1000 dead civilians in a week is chump change... As for the transcripts, we are using them in Hag in our countersuit again the Croatian people. So tell me again how they don't provide any real evidence. Oh go and tell those Serbian friends what you told me, if you dare. See if they remain your friends. Do you wonder why the bus didn't stop? Because there was an incident in the previous years where Serbian students were attacked.

I'm coming from a Q6600 and really want to make the upgrade to the latest tech, but that 1k variant is beyond my reach.

OK, if you are so adamant about it, then link me a video of the generals saying those thing. There were victories, we did shoot down multiple jet fighters, I just told you these things. We also shot down 2 F-117a during the NATO bombings. So I repeat my question 200 thousand Serbs just left because they were bored? What about the 1000 civilians killed? Don't twist the quote, well maybe I did translate it very well, what the quote meant is that the Serbs in Croatia don't recover not Serbs in general. Do you want me to quote the rest of the transcripts from Tudjman, because you obviously haven't read them when you claim these things. Because that simply isn't true, Croats work here, Croatian products are on our shelves, no Croatians cars are burned and it would be news. While when I went on a school trip to Italy the bus wouldn't stop in Zagreb because they feared we would get assaulted. Spread all the lies you want, I have proof to back up my stories.

What do you guys think, will Haswell-E have a 600 dollar 8-core version or will it be reserved for the 1k one?

So much for your information, you don't even remember what you watched. It was not US troops it was a French KFOR division in Lukavica and we shot down a Mirage captured the pilots and a F16, the pilot escaped. As for operation Storm, you should be ashamed of your self. That is the single biggest lie you said so far. What did Tudjman say in the Croatian high command meting in Brioni(31st of july 1995.), right before Operation Storm? He said "We should give the Serbs a hit that they won't recover from". Are you even listening your self? Serbs left their homes to run because they were told to do so, not because of the Croatian army coming for them? Want me pull up Croatian news, about the Serbs who were mistreated in Croatia recently? For **** sake, even a Croatian ex-officer had his car wrecked in Split because it had Belgrade number plates.

Depending on what class you are teaching! There is no room for anything but hard cold facts in a history class.

It's complicated, even more so because it has been years since I learned/read about it. The thing is our history goes way back to our time under Ottoman occupation. A lot of Serbs migrated to Hungary to escape the Ottomans and while it is mentioned that our people were treated like a lower class in Hungary the brunt of the crimes mentioned are about the Ottomans. So yeah while thing are mentioned about Hungary, they pale to the information about the Ottomans. What I remember from my history lessons is that our people were allowed to live there but they had a duty to defend the borders and while they were treated harshly they escaped the Ottoman rule. After we liberated our self from the Ottomans we considered our selves independent. As for after WW1, we considered that fair. Austro-Hungary was the aggressor, we defeat them. What my people regret is that we didn't just take the territory that was offered to us, instead of forming what was to be Yugoslavia. That, as it turned out, was the single biggest mistake any of our rulers made to this day.

At least we buried the dead, ours were just left face down in the dirt mutilated beyond recognition. But hey they don't count right... What exactly are you interested in?

Yeah, classic Croatian propaganda, we were the victim, the Serbs started it, 200 thousand Serbs just left of their own free will and lets not forget that the poor Croatia and Bosnia got shafted in Yugoslavia. Well I see how much better of you are today, Bosnia is collapsing and Croatia's national debt is bigger then any other country in the Balkans. Also what did your mighty army win? Maybe operation Storm which fought against Serbian peasants and outnumbered them 5 to 1. The only reason you "won" is because NATO came and bombed the **** out of us. The facts are that even today your political factions are cultivating national hate towards us, while our country has since let go of this. Croats are free to come to our cities, while Serbians are chased and beaten in yours. Your businessman are allowed to work in our country while ours are stonewall in yours. So tell me more who was motivated by hate and nationalism in the war... Yugoslavia was our biggest mistake... He denies every crime they committed during the war and says that 200 thousand Serbs left of their own free will.

The Hag is the biggest farce in the world, they acquitted Naser Oric from all charges, and the "biggest war criminals" from the Serbian side are dead or dying in Hag without any verdict being passed. The CIA was the biggest weapon supplier and strategic adviser of the Muslim forces in Bosnia, so anything they say to the public is serving a agenda. What are these 90% of war crimes we committed? The numbers of Srebrenica are largely inflated. If you were to compare the bodies burred there with the records of the inhabitants of Srebrenica and the surrounding areas you would find around 6000 missing from that list. Because the city had a Serbian population too, and it was attacked, as I already said, by the Bosnian paramilitary forces. We didn't take/invade the city because we wanted to avoid civilian casualties, but be aware that our forces around the city were more then enough to accomplish the task. I am not assuming anything, the Croatian and Muslim forces didn't have power to do what they did on their own. They were heavily supplied and supported by the CIA, which is not even a secret today. So it's just putting 2 and 2 together.

OK so you didn't watch the documentary. I will then run down the events for you. Where did it start? Most people agree that the national tensions culminated in WW2. What seems to be forgotten by most people today is that Croatia was an ally of the Nazis in WW2 and that they committed even worse crimes then the Nazis during that time. The worst of the crimes was the notorious concentration camp Jasenovac(in which they killed not only Jews, but also Serbs), which committed crimes that dwarfed that of the Nazis. Why? Because where the Nazis where efficiency exterminating the Jewish population, the Ustase in Jasenovac were not concerned with efficiency, they made sport of their killings, tortured people daily and seeing how long they could keep someone alive while doing it. http://www.holocaustresearchproject.org/othercamps/jasenovac.html After WW2 was over Tito assumed power and quelled the national tension for the most part. After he died there was a power struggle which, as is always the case, sent the country in a downwards spiral. With the countries destabilization, America sees the opportunity to dismantle a major power in Europe not under it's control. They offer Croatia a chance to secede from Yugoslavia with their support, which as can be seen they accept. 1st of March, 1992. In Sarajevo at a Serbian wedding in front of a church the groom is killed. This triggers the civil unrest in the City. 23rd of March 1992. Croatian Army attacks the village Hrasno, 6 member of YNA (Yugoslavian National Army ) are killed. 25th of March 1992. Croatian Army block roads to Serbia. 26th of March 1992. Croatian Army in tandem with the local Muslim paramilitary forces commit a massacre in the village Sijekovac. ...More attacks from the Croatian side through out Bosnia. 7th of April 1992. Bosnia and Herzegovina declare independence. 9th of April 1992. Serbian force take over Zvornik. 16th of April 1992. YNA come in to Visegrad and takes over command. 2nd of May 1992. Military objects in Sarajevo are under attack by the Bosnian paramilitary groups. Serbs apprehend the Bosnian president Aliju Izetbegovića. 3rd of May 1992. The Serbs and Bosnian arrange an exchange for Alija Izetbegović and the unarmed retreat of all the Serbian forces under the supervision of UNPROFOR. The retreating Serbs with UNPROFOR at their head are attacked and captured. Alija Izetbegovic is freed. The attacked Serbian forces suffer 32 casualties (One of which was a medic in a sanitary vehicle and also my grandfathers brother), 71 wounded 215 captured. They are released after the war, they seem to be extremely undernourished and to have suffered torture by their captives. Serbian command (Slobodan MIlosevic) orders the retreat of all the Serbian members in YNA from the mainland (Serbs who live in Serbia), from Bosina. ... Continued attacks by the Croat and Bosnian forces. Now for the famous part of the war. 7th of January 1993. Muslim paramilitary under the command of Naser Oric commit a massacre over the Serbian population in Kravici. 16th of January 1993. Muslim paramilitary under the command of Naser Oric commit a massacre over the Serbian population in the village Skelani. ... Continued attacks by the Muslim paramilitary under the command of Naser Oric. Over 150 Serbian villages are razed to the ground. ... Conflicts continue and Srebrenica is under attack by the Serbian forces in an attempt to kill Naser Oric and his forces. 11th of July 1995. Serbian forces capture Srebrenica but NAser Oric escapes via a helicopter and leaves his forces to fend for them selves. Serbian general Ratko Mladic evacuates all the civilians from Srebrenica. Serbian forces capture the 2000 strong Muslim military forces and execute them for the massacre they committed over the Serbs in the area. Now what Mladic did was essentially wrong, but I doubt he could have stopped it even if he wanted to. The Serbian forces had been chasing after Naser Oric for over a year around the Srebrenica area, and they had seen all the horrors that happened in his wake (children killed, pregnant women disembowel, corpses beheaded and mutilated, people crucified upside down and many, many other horrible things). To make the matters worse the Serbian forces were partly comprised of the people from this area. Soon after NATO interferes and soon after that the Dejton agreement is singed. 4th of August 1995. Operation Storm starts. ...During it over 200 thousand Serbs are ethically cleansed from their homes. 4th of August is declared a Croatian national holiday. So you asked me if Serbia was the victim here? My answer is yes, we have waged a defensive war in Bosnia. If Milosevic had been smart he would have committed the full Serbian might in Bosnia and ended the war inside a week. We would have held all the territory between Zagreb and Serbia. By the time the UN managed to involve it self we would have held all the disputed territory and we could have negotiated from a position of strength. At least like that we would have earned the reputation we have and we would have been in a much better situation now. If you want me to go over the Kosovo conflict, I can go in to detail about that too. But the Kosovo conflict is a different thing all together.

As far as I remember, it's in a chest in the fourth or fifth graders room at the end of the school mission where you chose between Kayle and Cartman.

It's the best, especially with the ninja sticker that gives x1 attack.

Ah, I though you were doing the warrior class. xD

This has potential to be such a good game. Looking forward to it.