dunehunter

Whisper of endless path is not a good weapon for backstabbing, it’s a more defensive weapon than other 2h. Why not go soulblade/trickster + WotEP? U have higher deflection with mirror image + borrow instinct. Use offensive parry to generate focus and SA in aoe.

hmmm u are right, the duration of the scroll seems to be not scale with int or arcane, only power level.

indeed.

I think still monk is best, reason is simple, the faster u kill enemies, the less mistaken u will make. In most combat u don't need to use too many withdraw scroll because u can pull enemy away and kill them. Only mega bosses requires a lot of them, but monk kill mega boss pretty fast too, ooze 2 min, dorugudan 5 min. I might be wrong because of Ethos challenge, u might not have enough time to get key gears and optimize yourself.

OK I tested this, so the aoe from FS is counted as two stacks of Resonant Touch, so ideally if u can critical hit on all 3 projections, it will be 3 + 3 x 2 = 9 stacks of RT, ideally u can do it. Also we were talking about dorugudan here so don't think u will use Full Attack most of the time, mostly just auto attack here, so if no crit, blunderbuss will be better, if u drink some potion and stack some hit to crit, FS is better. Btw do u mean that if u did 0-1 damage, it will not apply Resonant Touch on target? So in general, Frostseeker is very powerful on monk because the AoE on crit + RT. If u target someone with low deflection and proc the aoe to hit enemies around, it will apply x6 stacks of RT on itself and targets nearby, plus x3 RT on target, even better than blunderbuss imo.

I'm also curious about that, will head back home and test it

Switch to frostseeker and stack some hit to crit, you will use much less time to kill hellfire. It seems Resonant Touch and Frostseeker has some interesting synergy, and u will stack RT much faster with frostseeker than blunderbuss. Friend told me that if you crit with Frostseeker u stack 9 RT on target, will need to test it later myself. And he shows me a pic of RT with 40 raw damage per stack, with Potion of Ascension. So you only need 400 stacks to kill hellfire. I don't think exploit food stack really matters here or not. Just need to optimize your build.

Also depends on if you carry vela or not. We can just simply get what class can do ultimate through a process of elimination. Woedica + Ethos means classes that cannot regen class resources are elimated, which leaves us Chanter, Cipher, Tactician, Bloodmage and Monk, sc or multiclassed. Hylea + Mega boss means we need to kill mega boss very fast and keep vela alive by withdrawal(unless someone find another method), which leaves us priest, monk or probably soulblade(not sure about this). Abydon means the class better relies on spell/summon weapon or fist, which also lead us to monk/bloodmage. Therefore I think monk is best candidate

Rest bonus is active bonus, which means +STR from rest 1 cannot stack +STR from rest 2. Yes not exploiting food stacks will definitely slow down with mega boss a bit, but I think monk can still make it before run out of withdrawal scrolls. Or can u find another class that solos the mega bosses faster than monks, if not how to prevent vela from killed in boss fights?

There was a video of killing the ooze in 2 min as monk. Spamming WotW and use flame keeper flail to generate wounds. There u go. Also that video is totally AI only, he only paused once to switch AI mode.

An optimized sc helwalker with no rest bonus can finish most of mega bosses in around 5 min I think.

Victor creed did that for test builds in TB mode, without magran and wael's challenge tho. But I think that two challenge has less impact. Strategy is stealth and avoid as much combat as possible

Why can't u leave port maje? U can skip almost all fights i think.

That's not true, the -35% penalty is already in RTWP. And with that penalty dw has very close autoattack dps with 2h. But the time to complete mainhand/offhand attacks is almost always longer than swing one hit with 2h (unless u have very very high dex and -recovery i guess). So TB DW is alwasy better in dps.

Currently in RTWP, dual wielding has similar DPS with 2h on auto attacks. On Full Attack abilities, if your damage additive bonus is larger than around 80%, dw is better, otherwise 2h is better. So with legendary weapon + high might, dw is always better than 2h. I guess the changes in TB makes this worse, so you are correct, DW >> 2H in TB.

The Magran's Challenge on wiki says: The game cannot be paused. The game time cannot be slowed. So I guess u cannot use slow mode?

A SC monk can solo all mega bosses in a no god challenges playthrough. Now you just need to 1. Do every battle without pause; 2. Keep vela safe with withdraw scroll. It takes a lot more practice and bit of luck to make it, but doable imo.

Abydon’s and woedica’s challenge makes monk the most suitable candidate to me. U don’t need to worry about weapon degrade because u use fist, and you have infinite resources. I can’t imagine any lower tier classes be able to complete the ultimate honestly. Only monk, chanter, tactician and bloodmage seems to be possible to do this.

It gets unfair hate because it's unfairly bad, that's all. It's a single target lvl2/lvl1 affliction spell which most boss will resist, and works not effectively against minions since it's single target spell. The only shining point is it applies body Affliction + target Will defense, which is pretty unique (most abilities/spells that apply body affliction targets Fortitude)

As far as I know u cannot use LoH on Vela, so a shieldbearer try failed.

Oh ok, hmm but do u need to beat all megabosses in the ultimate run? If not it makes no sense to kill them because it makes guardian tougher.

Easier after killing the megabosses imo. Each alive mega boss gives the guardian one stack of buff. Btw does the new buff make it very hard to beat the guardian? The guardian seems to be weak enough even with the new buffs. It has super low original deflection (like around 80), even if it gets +36 deflection it's still not high enough to resist builds that can interrupt.

I'm also surprised that this is not addressed. This is a bug that makes the whole subclass unplayable imo, and based on Phenomenum's comment it is one button fix, i mean why not add it to the patch if it is so easy to fix.

SC monk or herald @Marigoldran

We can always have a Round 2 poll To bad I didn’t participate in the first poll 😕 Was afk at that moment.