Darkpriest

Because for the last 8-10 years I've barely been in Poland, and I know that a lot of people have various prejudice about the whole CEE region and on top of that about various countries in there.

I prefer getting views from people who actually live in Poland before I comment than to automatically believe what an American newspaper says ? So I can tell you that right now. I am in Poland for the last 3 months, and the only thing which is a bit colorized is this one: ''''''''''''''' Kaczynski, like Hungary’s Viktor Orban, is the product of an ugly pre-World War II populism, frozen and preserved through the communist era, that mixes xenophobia, anti-Semitism, right-wing Catholicism and autocratic impulses. '''''''''''''''' because pre WW2 Poland was fairly mixed in terms of east EU cultures and had a very high populace of jews, I think it was the largest in the world (maybe 2nd behind USA) and they were mostly respected. It's the WW2 and comunism era that turned that around (a lot has to do with Polish higher class being entirely desintegrated in both Nazi and Soviet camps, and majority of middle class being killed and dispersed) As sad as it sounds, the rest of the article is accurate.

well, this is one of the first outcomes of failed EU politics towards its eastern states, while preferring to take care of ME and North Africa: https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/polands-disturbing-tilt-to-the-right/2015/11/29/480341e0-952a-11e5-8aa0-5d0946560a97_story.html

Beause muslims keep blowing themselves up today? Do you see us puttong whole nations in the slave pits, have armed security with kill on sight order for slave workers on plantations? I mean, lets be real here. History was always been belonging to those who had the best military power and enough people to support it. If it was not Europe that advanced faster, it would be arabs or chinese or who the F... knows. The ppont is that they would shape the history. Today we seem to have countries with highest economic power driving the events, but those countries also have steon armies in case the assets of their citizens would get taken by force in large amounts. Lets say the whole Asia decides.to just take all the assets from Western owners, which are allocated there. Do you think that this would go without response? Obviously the globql 3conomic ties make all power be very reluctant as they know that today money are the driving force while military is in the support role of a shadow behind those money.

HoMM 7 is not a bad game but it suffered from small budget. It is still much better over the HoMM 6 but there are visible areas where things were kept to working minimum.

Some other articles: http://finance.yahoo.com/news/erdogan-trump-card-against-putin-222844006.html http://nextbigfuture.com/2015/12/russia-adding-second-airbase-in-syria.html It seems that US is willing to officially send some operatives into Syria: http://news.yahoo.com/carter-u-special-operations-forces-expanding-iraq-182504093.html

Was it? East Europe is: Bulgaria 7.3k (7.2 mln ppl) Czech 19k (10.5 mln) Estonia 6.1k (1.3 mln) Latvia 1.4k (2 mln) Lithuania 2.8k (2.9 mln) Hungary 37.4k (9.9 mln) (the only which rose in that period) Poland 45.6k (38.5 mln) Slovakia 7.2k (5.4 mln) you can pull there also Serbia and Slovenia if they want to be there, but I'd say there are more balkan than East Eu I hope you are not looking at the last part with the index. The column with values cuts off in the middle (2012 year) Now lets see: UK - 719k (63mln) France - 277k and this is without a large chunk becasue the report from Gendarmeri was not included, if you look at prior year it was 353k and rising (67 mln) Germany - 195k (81mln) Sweden - 46 k (9.8 mln) Here, in excel for you: Voilent crimes Population Per 1000 capita Bulgaria 7,300 7,200,000 1.01 Czech 19,000 10,500,000 1.81 Estonia 6,100 1,300,000 4.69 Latvia 1,400 2,000,000 0.70 Lithuania 2,800 2,900,000 0.97 Hungary 37,400 9,900,000 3.78 Poland 45,600 38,500,000 1.18 Slovakia 7,200 5,400,000 1.33 UK 719,000 63,000,000 11.41 France 353,000 67,000,000 5.27 Germany 195,000 81,000,000 2.41 Sweden 46,000 9,800,000 4.69 You can do for the rest if you want. The only East EU countries with fairly high factors are Estonia and Hungary, others have near 1 voilent crime per 1000 population. the countries selected from West EU have much higher. To be honest I was surprised by UK that it is that high.

ehhh.... ok two reports, first Eurostat with combined voilent crimes (for some reason they did not want to exclude rapes as a seperate category), but even here you can see where the rates are very high that had also trouble reducing it, and which countries have it fairly low and in fact are moving it down in most cases. i.e. the split is between the countries with high immigrant and variety rates and little immigrant history and fairly homogenic. This report shows the total number in thousands. I do not really want to make additional work, but if you divide these numbers into factors of per 1k capita, then probably it would show even worse picture for those immigrant heavy countries: Violent crimeThe figures for violent crime comprise those for violence against the person (such as physical assault), robbery (stealing by force or threat of force) and sexual offences (including rape and sexual assault). I found an OECD related report done by CIVITAS: http://www.civitas.org.uk/crime/crime_stats_oecdjan2012.pdf The only thing that surprised me are the rates in Australia and New Zealand

lol ok, not everyone, mostly confucionism i realized i made a mistake when i posted that but now it is modernized to fit into a rule of the prime ruling party. There is a reason why China was successful and why now it faces a hard transition into more domestic consumption driven economy again, still at a core the culture of mandarins ruling China is very strong

Dark I can guarantee you Rostere is correct, thats why I said in an earlier debate " I don't believe the Swedish migration system is a failure" This is good news by the way, it means there is less reason to question the sustainability of the EU...end of the day surly we all want the EU to survive and prosper ? On what basis do you guarantee that? If you have a set of hard data that proves this, please share it with me. I shared with you and compared statistics in regards to crimes and also how the life looked in Switzerland in 80s

Western culture is just as much a product of ancient Greek and Enlightenment traditions, I'm really not seeing why do you want to single out christianity as a uniquely relevant part of these cultural pillars. Because claiming that the christian ethics, the concept of redemption and ethos, not to mention architecture and art having no bearing on the European heritage is wishful thinking at best. To be frank, both have similar impact. The Greeko-Roman culutre was inspiration for the humanism in 15 century, at the same time we cannot forget about our own gains, which were made during the medieval ages and later progressed alongside of humanism. Then you get the protestants and their ethos of work in religious pursuit. Europe is a really mix of interesting ideas that had roots in various concepts, but through that it made its own identity. THe problem now is, that we have watered down our cultural roots and we are becoming shapless mix, which does not really know as a whole what is the core value around which we will move forward. Other distinctive cultures do not have this issue. Muslims are driven by Islam, Chinese are driven by taoism, but moreso by the mandarinizm and imperial heritage, plus they see themsleves as a whole community instead of set of individuals (Islam is similar in this regard). So yeah... good luck

@Rostere, If you so easily denounce these claims, than perhaps bring out the data from police, lets say compare 70s rates per 1000 citizens, then 80s, 90s, etc. then apply the place of occurance. Which districs, which towns and match with the population ratios in those areas. IF i knew swedish I would probably do it myself out of simple curiosity.

WTF is a soccer mom? You mean the ones buying games for their kids?

It was the founding father of our culture. Now it is not anymore and we seem to losing identity without any meqningful substitute.

An yet they will move to another country like Libya and will keep bombing our cities. Now as for Ukraine. I wrote it befoee that it was stupid to think that Russians will allow Crimea and the base there to be removed fro their control. It is too important of an asset. What i do not get is why they keep destabilizing eastern UA. I guess they'd like to have a land corridor to Crimea and the populce there is in majority Russian but i simply think it is not worth it to go for it and certainly not to merge with Russian federation. It would be much better if Russians just stopped with taking over the Crimea. West was willing to swallow it and Ukraine would survive this as well. But trying to get a lrge chunk of eastern UA which is also a fairly rich in resources area - well... Ukraine will want to keep that and West just won't allow to be played more and will side with UA for that piece of land.

@Raithe I watched an episdoe or two, and damn I wish I had such a talented DM with such a great voice play :D

Did "democracy" join the club of "words people use to mean completely different things than they mean" while I wasn't looking, like "freedom of speech" did? If majority will want that some word has a certain meaning, it will have it. *shrug* On a more serious note, you need to remember that not everyone on this forum is a native English speaker and even then I wager that some meanings are different between various English speaking countries. I will not be putting any interpretation on why he decided to use that word, as only he can clarify it. The point was clear from the context of the post though, so you could have given him a benefit of doubt instead of jumping like some grammar nazi. Not everyone is sitting with an on line dictionary and thesaurus opened, while they post in here. No words here have any legal bearing, so there is no need to.

Seems that Russian SU-34 got new air to air weaponry in Syria to enhance their "defensive" capabilities. It's some variant of missiles with effecive range of 60km.

Becauseyou have to do so in democracy. Don't you know?

Well technically if you could save 10-15 young couples they could genetically sustain a small populace of people for 2-3 generations forward. It would not be pretty as women would be basically breeding mothers to cover for the return to the cavemen status and lack of medical support. After 100years in isolation they wpuld probable need to look for some other genepool to enhance the group or they would be able to expand populace but that would take careful planning and super arranged "marriages".

And how are the most doing now from the previous immigrant runs? Why do you think they want to go to walefare heavy countries?

Only some men will find work while their women will be sitting home and breeding kids, to get social benefits. The men in vast majority of cases will be working some minimum wage jobs, which will not pay off the cost of sustaning a whole familiy by the state. The economy simply does not have room for extra 300-500k jobs out of thin air.

Well, you can leave your democracy and western values at their border... And we would stay at the border....but you notice millions of Muslims are leaving there countries and crossing our borders to look for an understandable better life in the West So what do you suggest? Should we do what you say and refuse to let anyone in to the EU,....maybe you right, it seems a bit cruel Yeah, well, the thing is, they are coming for expected better life that for them means simply put, more money. The problem is, they are coming with culture and historical baggage of prejudices, grudges etc. that stopped them from becoming rich and prosperous. Imagine what will happen, when they will discover that 95% will have to work for minimum wage in countries, where they will get a small apartment for which they will pay 2/3rds of one persons income for monthly rent, then comes the cost food, different weather conditions, different culture, etc. Our society rose up on the idea that "no type of work dishonors a person doing it". These people might not feel the same way, and when children of these people will see a relative poverty in which they live, they will act the same as the current days failed 2nd and 3rd generation of immigrants from 70s-80s. EU economies are at a point where they cannot sustain that walfare state, which they wanted to create those 20 years ago. Germany saving, France cutting social expenditure, UK cutting support for immigrants social benefits, etc. Next economic crisis will kill those states, if they will now bloat expenditures on defense policies and social expenditures on immigrants. Wait for the next wave of elections in EU and the left winged parties will see a big decline. Even in Germany parties that had near 0 impact, like AfD, become visible and impactful. Merkel will pay most likely with a loss in next elections. (already perdiction polls show it will be extremly difficult for her to be a winner) UK first time ever reports that UK citizens want to leave EU (over 50% in the referendum polls want to leave it) CEE countries getting nationalist and right winged parties at the helms, which already creates tensions within EU in regards to immigrants (mainly Poland and Hungary) We are heading in the direction of a clash, where the result will be either, they will assimilate to our standards (I really doubt, considering they didn't for the last couple of decades and they bring distinctive beliefs and culture from their home region) or we will see more riots, increased crime rates, and eventually failing states due to inability to control it. If in the next 10 years we won't solve the issue, the next economic crisis will kill EU. (major ones like to happen every 20 or so years) Yes I don't disagree with some of your points For example if indeed the immigrants coming to the EU think they can live off social grants and a welfare state then there integration into the West will be difficult ..if not doomed to failure So I expect the majority of refugees to contribute towards the economies of EU countries they immigrate to, they need to pay taxes for example This should be understood and accepted by all Like it did for the last 20-30 years? What makes you think that they will suddenly change their way of life and mentality?

yes, we were responsibly for branding it such and trying to tie with our historical movmenet of "spring of nations". Should we not intervene, they would probably die out fairly fast, because majority was not focused around one common idea for the building of a nation... it was more of a lot of smaller groups having even vastly different interests but with one main obstacle, being the current leader of a country. You need to understand that such movements will win on their own, if there is really backing in the nation for it... Look at our spring of nations, look at the changes in 1989 in soviet block... you do not have to look far.

Well, you can leave your democracy and western values at their border... And we would stay at the border....but you notice millions of Muslims are leaving there countries and crossing our borders to look for an understandable better life in the West So what do you suggest? Should we do what you say and refuse to let anyone in to the EU,....maybe you right, it seems a bit cruel Yeah, well, the thing is, they are coming for expected better life that for them means simply put, more money. The problem is, they are coming with culture and historical baggage of prejudices, grudges etc. that stopped them from becoming rich and prosperous. Imagine what will happen, when they will discover that 95% will have to work for minimum wage in countries, where they will get a small apartment for which they will pay 2/3rds of one persons income for monthly rent, then comes the cost food, different weather conditions, different culture, etc. Our society rose up on the idea that "no type of work dishonors a person doing it". These people might not feel the same way, and when children of these people will see a relative poverty in which they live, they will act the same as the current days failed 2nd and 3rd generation of immigrants from 70s-80s. EU economies are at a point where they cannot sustain that walfare state, which they wanted to create those 20 years ago. Germany saving, France cutting social expenditure, UK cutting support for immigrants social benefits, etc. Next economic crisis will kill those states, if they will now bloat expenditures on defense policies and social expenditures on immigrants. Wait for the next wave of elections in EU and the left winged parties will see a big decline. Even in Germany parties that had near 0 impact, like AfD, become visible and impactful. Merkel will pay most likely with a loss in next elections. (already perdiction polls show it will be extremly difficult for her to be a winner) UK first time ever reports that UK citizens want to leave EU (over 50% in the referendum polls want to leave it) CEE countries getting nationalist and right winged parties at the helms, which already creates tensions within EU in regards to immigrants (mainly Poland and Hungary) We are heading in the direction of a clash, where the result will be either, they will assimilate to our standards (I really doubt, considering they didn't for the last couple of decades and they bring distinctive beliefs and culture from their home region) or we will see more riots, increased crime rates, and eventually failing states due to inability to control it. If in the next 10 years we won't solve the issue, the next economic crisis will kill EU. (major ones like to happen every 20 or so years)