Uomoz

Anything? Who said anything. Weak, weak argument skills.

Because the base 10 points level in DnD (+0 bonus) is exactly 0 points in PoE (+0 bonus). Have your neurons gone in vacation or something? xD

Also looking for where a Con of 3 gives a bonus to health. In fact, that's not representative of any D&D system. So with it's attributes, you're trying to peddle that it's closer to 4th than 3rd? ROFLMAO. Yeah it is! And if you don't see it, well I feel lucky you are not the designer of the game xD.

Rofl! It's not a port it's more similar to 4th compared to 3rd, have you learned to read yet? Are you cherry picking unrelated arguments on purpose?

Nope, don't need a name change. Just need more from that wonderful 4th ed system that you love, like healing spells and healing potions that heal your health in this game. And 4th ed rituals.. oh wait that's too gamey for you. herp derp. Your argument ... is ... so terrible .. I don't even ... whaaa

Nope, not a direct port and nothing like 4th ed either with the exception of some cherry picked stuff like at will and encounter powers. I thought there were healing potions and healing spells in 4th ed that healed your health? You must be playing another 4th ed to me. Looks at players handbook, yep, there's healing potions and healing spells in there. Looks at PoE, nope none of that here. There are potions in PoE, facepalm. Maybe you didn't read my posts (what a surprise!) I stated that the DnD health is not PoE's health, it's the stamina. Maybe the game would help you by changing the name of stamina to health? Herp.

Nice deflection Uomoz. I'm not talking about encounter, at will or daily powers. I'm talking about healing and health. And I did say Josh has cherry picked stuff from 4th ed. Healing of health not being one of them, unless you count the extended rest which is not only for 4th ed. Wow it's not a direct port, what a surprise! But it's still way more similar to 4th then 3rd, ain't it? Not impressed, mr.Hiro, not impressed.

Nope. Nothing at all like 4th ed. You criticise people on this forum saying to them you haven't played it or too anchored in other systems. I come on who does play it and say it's nothing like it at all and then you go all doomsayer as if that's some retort. LMAO. And we're not talking talents either so nice deflection. So you are actually saying this system doesn't resemble 4th. With the encounter/daily/will powers, and Sawyer that talks about PoE and 4th in the same post. Also I don't quite understand your posts, the grammar is all messed up.

Well it seems one person who loves and plays 4th ed and thinks it's amazing as well as thinking the current system in PoE is great thinks the ritual is gamey. LMAO. Seriously. Of all the things I could come up with, gamey is not one of them. It is gamey, but you don't even want to think about it, you simply want to be in the right. IMHO it's an "artificial" way to increase the adventure day, "sharing injuries", wtf? Anyway, using plural and calling others won't make your opinion shared, just make your arguments look weak.

We who? Jeez xD. BTW, not all of 4th is great, for example some talents are straight up OP or bad design (the ritual talents for example are utter **** and we banned them altogether). The health system in PoE is way closer to 4th then 3rd/2nd and don't try to convince me that it isn't, because it's undeniable. Dooooooommmmsayingggggg

No. The core ideas from 4th ed isn't very much present in PoE. Quite the opposite, Josh has cherry picked some parts of 4th ed and it feels like some quasi-abomination of 4th ed. One of those core designs that's been ignored is healing your health. And it was very much dependent and strategic in 4th ed. So much that the level 1 ritual 'Comrade's Succor' is a game changer and extends your adventuring day even more. And this is coming from a player who hasn't just played 4th ed for years but also played Lair assault encounters as well. PoE would improve ten fold if healing is introduced into it. Q"uasi-abomination of 4th ed"? Damn you doomsayers, get your priorities straight. Re: You do heal your health in this game, it's called stamina. It serves the same purpose, while the health value is just a tool to limit the adventuring day. Gamey solutions like the ritual you cited are horrible ideas imho, there are already ways to "fix" your issue even right now in the unpolished beta, for example by spreading the damage. Oh and btw, straight healing is one of those things that are widely used in MMORPGs (those hated things!) to enforce the healer/dps/tank rule even more. The less is prominent and necessary, the more it allows varied gameplay.

It would be quite mandatory for all parties.

I don't think anyone is denying that this game has a lot of 4E influence it's that most people just dislike 4E and question why they went with it....well maybe not the people who know why It's safe to assume that me and Sawyer share the same ideas about DnD editions then.

I'm obviously not referring to direct port. One does not simply port a tabletop into a videogame. But the core ideas (healing independence/tactical resource + daily/encounter/at-will powers) is very much present in PoE. It's undeniable that 4th ed is the Dnd system that influenced this game the most. EDIT: a lot of the people that talk **** about the 4th simply haven't played it or are way too anchored to older versions to really appreciate the amazing combat system they put up. The main issue with 4th is the sheer focus on combat rules compared to role rules. That said me and all my group (up to 10 players) completely agree that the 4th edition combats were BY FAR the best we've had in our long DnD career. Combat enjoyment is on a whole new level compared to 3rd simplicity (move-baseattack-pass).

No it isn't and the lack of sales back that up...there is a reason they dumped it with the swiftness...it's terrible. I once thought it'd make a good video game implementation and this game has completely reversed my decision. Although it won't be an actual version of 4E. Thank god for their partnership with Paizo. Lucky for me that you pointed out so many reasons why I was wrong! Nice!

90% of this are not even possible to change anymore, you know that? It's too late to change things like stamina/health. Focus your feedback on things that can actually change.

I love this decision. 4th edition is crazy good for videogame implementations, and I mastered *all* editions for years. The combat in 4th is the best.

Other's opinions are spam then? Pff.

Indira, that's such a stupid idea. RNG gods? What the hell? The more control the better, what are you talking about? Crits and all are ok, but the scenario you describe is mind boggling.

And? They were demoing the game, not playing. The fact is: you can win the whole beta, using the game rest rules. Its doable, especially on easy. Why on earth should you feel compelled to rest 20 times? Play efficiently. Also, the numbers needs to be tweaked, that's obvious.

That's the whole point of the word "balancing". They'll get the numbers right, this build is dedicated to bugfixing after all.

Why on earth should there be trash mobs, and what if the idea here of this game is not to rightclick your way to the boss?

Implying that a programmer is good at the game he's making is stupid. If you are playing bad, and need rest spamming, lower the difficulty.

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha! *Wiping tears from me eyes* Sorry, please, do carry on... Such fun! Such right clicks! EDIT: and even Seari straight into the ignore zone!

Indira, please. Share the light of your superior design mastery on us!