BruceVC

The brutal human rights abuses the Kurdish people suffer in Turkey don't count then? Why doesn't the rest of NATO intervene to free the Kurds from Turkish oppression? The situation around the Kurds in Turkey is complicated and its not as clear as the atrocities that Assad has committed against his own people

What's your position on nuclear proliferation then? Seems hypocritical not to allow Iran to have a nuclear program when Israel has one. Same applies to North Korea naturally. Nope Iran cannot be allowed to get Nuclear weapons, they have been proven to make far too many extreme foreign policy decisions and are major supporters of known terrorist groups like Hezbollah. If they somehow did get Nuclear weapons this would destabilize the region and this cannot be allowed to happen Sorry Drowsy but even though I may not agree with everything Israel does they are a much more stable and easily understood country than Iran. So you shouldn't ask the question " but why can't Iran get Nuclear weapons if Israel has them?" Its two different scenario's.

Care to elaborate? Sure, Turkey is considered a secular and democratic Muslim country. It was been trying to join the EU since 2005. These are some of the reasons Western companies consider Turkey a good place to invest in and also its a bridge into the region. Its easy to do business in Turkey. Turkey and the USA have shared information on the PKK as Turkey considers them a terrorist organization. Turkey was one of the first countries to condemn the brutal clampdown of Assad on people wanting political change in Syria. They have personally had to take in hundreds of thousands of Syrian refugee's which is an expensive initiative. NATO has deployed Patriot missiles on the Turkish\Syrian border to assist Turkey if Syria decided to fire its own missiles into Turkey. NATO wouldn't do this if they didn't consider Turkey an ally I am not saying that Erdogan is handling the current protests in the most diplomatic and sensitive way but Turkey needs to be given time to address this internal strife. And unless he starts a brutal campaign against his own people like Assad I still consider Turkey an important friend of the West in the region

There's an english language source for the suicides (and bad conditions) at least. If there were something on resignations from him it would probably be in Turkish and require translation. Not everything is a conspiracy theory with the West operating in the background surreptitiously acting only when it directly serves its own self-interests. The West correctly considers Turkey an ally and friend and won't just intervene in any domestic issue.

http://gamasutra.com/view/news/194483/CD_Projekt_RED_confirms_new_studio_opening_in_Krakow.php Always a good sign of robust finances when a development company opens another branch, albeit a small one.

That sounds like a question you would ask Majek, but I am not sure. I don't remember that as part of the game. But I guess if it was you would say this was unrealistic? I know you well

Metro 2033 is my favorite horror survival game, you get this real sense of desperation during the game and ammo becomes something you cherish when you find it. It only gets more tense, wait till you have to fight the mutated gorilla's I haven't played Last Light but I intend to

This being an Obsidian game though, one of those old souls will have to be railing against its confinement, crying out for release and asking the protagonist to break the blade asunder. I served righteously throughout life, now let me have my promised rest etcetera. Edit: Indeed what if in other religions the blade is a weapon of evil, standing between souls and their rebirth on the wheel. Be a nice little perplexing situation. Good ideas

You seem a bit nervous there Malc? Is there something you want to tell us....don't be embarrassed as almost all of us are liberals and you can say anything you want without judgment

I'm all for a Paladin class and smiting enemies but they should give you the option that during the game if you start committing evil acts you become corrupted and move from a Paladin to an evil type Paladin class like a Blackguard? That would make it even more exciting

Its funny because now that you guys are pointing it out, I can't remember any distinguishing ladies?

http://uk.news.yahoo.com/briton-survives-13-storey-fall-zealand-042603806.html?.tsrc=samsungwn#ay4Gbtg Guys you should read this article, a British tourist in New Zealand fell 13 stories and survived after trying to climb into his 15th floor apartment from the floor above. He is a very lucky man !!!

Seriously? No women at all. I played Gothic 3 about 1 year ago and I didn't notice that. Guess my powers of observation aren't as acute as I thought?

Well I enjoyed Gothic 3 so if you throw in even more ladies that can only be a good thing

But you do know you're a troll, right? An ice troll from the Finnish wastes to be precise. Nah, I don't post to sow discord and provoke arguments, I post (in part) so that you and the other gaming hipsters wouldn't start thinking that your opinions represent the objective truth or that anyone who doesn't share your views on gaming is an unwashed and uneducated teenager from the basement. Of course, mostly I just post because I like Obsidian games. And this is their forum, not a gaming superiority complex club. "Objective truth", I like that. I'm going to start using those words if you don't mind? Nep another reason we post is that we know we are right and Drowsy is wrong, isn't that a reason?

The UN is there to serve the interests of the world and its members. But maybe you can explain to me how letting Syria decline into a country where millions of its citizens are displaced, tens of thousands of its people are killed and its infrastructure is destroyed is in the interests of anyone? And to make things worse Western countries aren't asking Russia and China to support them with resources in Syria they are just saying "allow us to intervene" Not that China or Russia would assist in any military conflict unless there national interests were threatened of course.

BTW you're not fooling anyone with your wild assumptions regarding my "fantasies" - everyone here knows you'd be the first to advocate bombing China back to the stone age if it were feasible, the same way you justify any military "intervention". It’s a bitter pill to swallow but sometimes military intervention is the only thing certain governments understand. The difference nowadays is that no Western country will make a serious militarily commitment to a conflict unless the UN security council endorses it. This is a structural problem IMO and as I've mentioned Syria is a good example of the impotence of the UN or rather when the UN security council is divided on how to act

Don't be silly there is absolutely NO chance of a Third World War. I can't believe you actually think this is even a remote outcome? If the Russians do supply S300s they'll be crewed or supervised by Russians. If the west wants to set up a no fly zone (without UN mandate, given Russia and China will both likely veto) those S300s will have to go as they're able to hit targets at very high altitudes and very great distances, and that means the likelihood of dead Russians. As Rostere says, it's the economy that's the weakness. The US (and other western countries) are heavily indebted and only going more into debt, at some point putting the military on the credit card has to stop and at that point it may well become impractical to have quite the global projection that the US has been used to since the 50s. They may be going for more cost effective measures, but they're untested. Come on Zora I'm vociferously pro-western but lets not fool ourselves. There is no way the West is going to declare war on Russia or China over Syria and vice versa. And we all know about the prodigious debts of Western countries, but these are debts that countries like China also need and support as they are export driven and if hypothetically the USA economy should collapse then China and the world economy will suffer immeasurable harm. So that's not going to happen Sorry boys but you need to find other things to post around doom and gloom for the Western world. Maybe someone can find evidence that a comet is going to hit Europe or the USA. Now that would be worrying?

But Drowsy aren't you use to being bitterly disappointed with the latest release of games? I would think this is just the norm for how you feel..in fact if you were happy with a game you may get a little depressed?

You know a serious point needs to be made when Gorthfucius arises from his slumber and speaks !!! History has proven that its only a foolish civilisation that ignores his cryptic words of advice....

Well they're old, they're on twice as many drugs as guys half their age. I doubt the members of KISS still take drugs, I'll be very surprised?

Wow, I thought the BSN was bad. Welcome to the club. Come now lickety don't take it personally. Its just someone's opinion. I think you are correct about CD Projekt Red and they have been able to create a gaming franchise around what the fans want and not just what would be good sales. They also are not as beholden to a large publishers as Bioware, these are irrefutable facts. But Zora and others are entitled to there opinion. Its the job of us to dispute what they are saying. That's why we have debates

Pork or Beef? If Beef, make sure you give them at least 10 hours to smoke, preferably using pecan wood. If Pork, you should have bought Beef Ribs. Beef of course. Pork is too fatty. They are pretty good sized too. I put them in about two hours ago. It's almost time to add the next tray of wood chips. The water I have to refill every 2-3 hours as well. They are smoking nicely, can't smell them yet though. I'm using apple wood chips. I washed the jerky strips in low sodium Teriyaki and put them in the top rack about 15 minutes ago. I bought some fresh jalapenos chop up and make cornbread with and I'll steam carrots to top it all off. Too bad I'm the only one here to appreciate this! OMG that sounds amazing Quick question why would you put jerky with your barbeque? Is this uncooked jerky? In South Africa we don't get jerky but we get something similar called Biltong. But you never put that in the barbeque as its eaten on its own.

We will blame Serbia if the world enters another Cold War, which is not unreasonable as they have already been the catalyst for one World War?

No I don't see this as that bad, you need to also consider another result with the West openly aiding the rebels that this becomes a classic proxy war and Iran has to pour even more money and resources into assisting Assad. This weakens Iran which is not necessarily a bad thing if you think of other tensions in the area? 1. You are assuming both Russia and China will be fine with Western troops in Syria. 2. Seeing dead Western soldiers, for the sake of the region(Israel) is not something I want to see. 3. There is a good chance that if the rebels win the war, that in 10-20 years later we will be invading Syria due to a massive terrorist presence. A presence trained by the west. What we are seeing here is not a war for democracy, but a war of Sunni vs Shiite. It's not a matter of if, but when. Hopefully I'm long dead when it comes. As for it coming from this conflict, doubtful. But why chance it. The West won't be sending ground troops, this is more about direct military aid around arms and equipment and maybe military advisor's. So you won't ever see dead western soldiers in Damascus