BruceVC

Wow. Where to begin? What possible motive could Russia have for shooting down a civilian airline? To manically laugh as they strangle kittens and invite The West to finally get WWIII started? First of all you have quite readily shown your colours by making no distinction between the Separatists and Russia. Secondly, you obviously haven't heard of a little something called "Hanlon's Razor". I like Occams Razor as far as this tragedy is concerned, the plane was indeed shot down mistakenly by the separatists thinking it was a Ukrainian plane. And the military armament was supplied by Russia

So lets be clear on this, you think its impossible that he felt he had offended women he works with and he wanted to set the record straight? You say this cannot be the case? Lets be clear indeed. He's not sexist for any reason you list. He was likely asked to issue an apology so men like you wouldn't get your panties in a twist. When did I ever say he was sexist? I believe I have said several times that I don't believe he meant to offend anyone. But that doesn't change the fact he did offend people You guys really need to stop putting words in peoples mouths and stop making assumptions around what people say

So lets be clear on this, you think its impossible that he felt he had offended women he works with and he wanted to set the record straight? You say this cannot be the case?

You don't see how going from excited over a grand achievement: To breaking down crying: might have a little to do with being dogpiled? Don't get me wrong, its obviously not nice to see a man so excited about this project, even to the point where he had a tattoo made, and then you see him visibly crying in the next video because of a shirt and the image it projected But until we know the real reason for the apology I believe the reason he gave

The man was brought to tears. Over a shirt. Made for him by a friend. On what should have been the highlight of his career. The fact that you are ok with him being harassed and bullied says a lot about your ability to empathize. Of course I emphasize with his personal emotional state? When did I ever suggest I don't care how he feels ? So the original harassment was wrong, but once again that's not the reason why I think he apologized. He felt he didn't want to insult the women he worked with, I don't think he apologized because of the pressure from feminists and SJW. So maybe we should stop looking for reasons that don't exist because they suit the GG agenda? There are more than enough examples of people doing things due to public pressure but this is not one of them?

Always interesting to see what level is operated at in this kind of thing. Amusing that people who aren't in his office would tell him that, really is none of their business. I assume his management is ok with that in his day to day work and the women present are too busy working or are not weak enough to be assaulted by a tacky shirt, else he would not have been wearing it. But naturally, some one is always offended somewhere so that caught up with it. He already got bullied into apologizing though I suppose he didn't grovel enough for some, skimming reactions to it around places. Wasn't even aware GG was involved in this really, mostly came across this as an amusing bit of "feminists" being "outraged" on Twitter and other places you see useless slacktivists like Bruce et al operating. I will say this I am surprised that before the interview no one said to him " dude, are you sure this is the right shirt you want to wear for a interview that the whole world is going to see "?

Ahh yes, the real issue isn't how he was attacked and brought to tears over wearing a shirt crafted by a friend, it's that some people think attacking someone over a shirt is stupid. KP you must realize that Dr Taylor has made a clearly emotional decision and publically apologized, some of us agree with his motives and reasoning and some don't. But we should accept the fact he has made this statement and we should respect this decision. Don't you think this is reasonable ? So what I'm asking is what do you now want from this whole furore ?

Mmmmm I'm not sure I believe you when you say " you won't play DA:I", lets give it 3 months and then see if you still haven't relented and ended up playing it ?

I had to laugh at the thought of that, a Frankenstein monster combining Bruce and Volo...what would this type of fan want ? Well for one thing he would expect all Romance dialogue to consist of only " No, Yes and LOL" Nothing more complicated than that

Dude wears fap material at work in office. People tell him it's not appropriate for that office. Scumbags whine "censorship" and declare him a hero. Same people are now calling the women (scientists and non) that objected to the shirt "****" "bitches", inviting them to kill themselves and shut up. Sounds familiar enough? Oh right, why GG is involved? Because they made themselves involved. Yeah that sounds about right The GG outrage train in is full steam I feel sorry for Dr Taylor , clearly all he wants to do is apologize and move on but people from GG have made him a poster child for " how feminists and SJW force people to do things they don't want to do and this is an example of everything wrong with those people " Its really insulting to Dr Taylor to suggest he is isn't capable of deciding his own thoughts and making his own mind up.

Dude, one of the Mojos attacked him SIMPLY FOR TRYING TO SET UP AN INTERVIEW. 5 tweet messages were harassement to her. In other news, SJW's abusing the Twitter WAM system: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B2fQw_LCIAAtLSI.jpg B.t.w. - Bruce, should anyone wearing this also be shamed and attacked? This looks like a shirt that a gay man would wear and yes it also sends a certain message. Whether men would feel it objectifies them I can't say ?

Tale I knew it was inevitable that you would end up excited about DA:I, welcome

Dude come on, you are being very dramatic..you can't be serious? You are taking this whole thing waaaaaaaaaaay too seriously If you're not serious, then why even bother to complain about his clothing? why even agree with the people out to shame him? Look in the ****ing mirror already. Of course I'm serious about my point, I can understand why he apologized without pressure from feminists and SJW. He apologized because he wanted to, simple as that But that doesn't mean now this is an orchestrated campaign by SJW to control mankind and have dominion and power over all. You are being completely dramatic, that's the part that I mean is not serious

I really don't think comments like this are very helpful. I am sorry, but my jimmies are seriously rustled when i found out that he had to publicly appologize. It's not a question of different opinion, it is a grand declaration of war to everything that is good in this world. The gloves are now off and it is open season. I know, I am angry about it too. But bringing rape victims into it, even in jest, really doesn't help. I know you don't mean harm with it, but imagine one of our board members might actually have a history of being raped and they'd see your comment. It's not your intention to hurt anyone (with possible exception of Bruce) but you might still, inadvertently. No he hasn't hurt me at all but you are right about those types of comments being potentially very hurtful to others I just get annoyed that people want to try to diminish the heinous deed of rape in order to make a point Stop dodging the question, stop trying shift this about hurtful comments and answer already. Why should he be judged on his clothing and others should not? What morally good comes out of this? Of course others are judged on there clothing, that's the nature of society. We judge people everyday about there appearances

Dude come on, you are being very dramatic..you can't be serious? You are taking this whole thing waaaaaaaaaaay too seriously

Welcome Its a madhouse but we have great fun here

I really don't think comments like this are very helpful. I am sorry, but my jimmies are seriously rustled when i found out that he had to publicly appologize. It's not a question of different opinion, it is a grand declaration of war to everything that is good in this world. The gloves are now off and it is open season. I know, I am angry about it too. But bringing rape victims into it, even in jest, really doesn't help. I know you don't mean harm with it, but imagine one of our board members might actually have a history of being raped and they'd see your comment. It's not your intention to hurt anyone (with possible exception of Bruce) but you might still, inadvertently. No he hasn't hurt me at all but you are right about those types of comments being potentially very hurtful to others I just get annoyed that people want to try to diminish the heinous deed of rape in order to make a point

I don't think he was pressured (edit: by his employers!), seeing that the apology came completely out of the blue. He was actually asked how the "science was comparing to the data collected by the Rosetta orbiter", and instead of answering the question he broke down and came with the apology. This wasn't some staged press conference, this was a man who probably lost a night's sleep over this and hasn't been able to think about anything else, and just had to get this out of his system. You can see his colleagues around the table feel sorry for him. They probably think this is just as ridiculous as we do. As for examples. Well, let's imagine tomorrow a woman goes to a job interview and the recruiter makes an offending remark about her being a woman. Now, she doesn't have any proof as it's her word against his word. But there's a grassroots movement to boycott the company involved, in which many of the ladies are involved who also were involved in this incident. In this case, of course, they'd be very right to get involved. However, many people who are familiar with this incident will see the headline, then see who is involved in it, and think to themselves "Oh right, the shirt ladies found something new to be offended about, nevermind that!" That's interesting example, I see your point. Fair enough, it can potentially diminish this type of event if its real the next time.

If its not positive ...its not fair

I'm not 100 % clear on what you mean? Can you give a hypothetical example?

Yes, but only because evil frothing at the mouth zealots are out there to shame and harass anyone that doesn't conform to their Nazi-esque dress code where anything that could possibly be identified as a statement of some kind that goes against their strict totalitarian ideals, even in the furthest reaches of a seriously deranged mind, is deemed unacceptable and worthy of a mass coordinated assault. Shame on him for simply putting on the shirt which his friend gifted him for this occasion and not thinking through what extremist zealots might fabricate out of the shirt's content. It's definitely all his fault, and not a fabrication of the sick, deranged, psychotic SJW monsters that aim to destroy free will. Guys a shirt like that can be worn at a Rave, a club, a comic convention or walking around a mall or dozens of others places but it does project an image. Now a person may be fine with the image it projects, like someone wearing a shirt with a neo-Nazi symbol, but you need to accept that you will receive criticism from sectors of society as that image is offensive to some people And obviously the scientist realized that as he apologized. I can also tell you that most corporates wouldn't think too highly of someone coming to a job interview wearing a shirt like that So I don't think we need to see this incident as " glaring example of feminazism " but rather something that was just inappropriate to wear for someone like the scientist who was doing an interview that has global coverage. Its not a mystery or surprise to me why he was admonished? No. Just no. A grown man was brought to tears and made to grovel because he wanted to wear a shirt that a female friend gave him. Yes, it was a gaudy T-shirt, but no, it wasn't offending. Not unless you're the sort of person who is actively out looking to get offended. If it WAS offending I am sure several of the guys female colleagues would have pointed it out to him. The guy was wearing the shirt the whole day and to his colleagues obviously it was a non issue. Even when he does the apologizing they are looking rather puzzled as to what the fuss is about. The only people who seem to care are the people actively looking to get offended and it's getting really tiresome. Well obviously the guy that was wearing the shirt, the scientist, feels different to you. He wouldn't have apologized if he didn't feel he should. He is highly a intelligent man, I'm sure he can make his own mind up and decide for himself if an explanation or apology is warranted? Or is he not capable of deciding that? Someone being forced into an apology doesn't mean the apology is warranted. With enough force you can bully someone into thinking just about anything is wrong. The guy strikes me as a very nice guy who had no intention at all of offending anyone. One day he is just cheerfully doing his life's work, putting on a shirt a friend gave him to wear, then going on camera to enthusiastically tell about his life's work. Obviously the guy didn't think there was anything wrong with the shirt then. Then people for no understandable reason start to give him crap for wearing a shirt. I can understand how he'd be perplexed. Then he's thinking. "What if they are right? I don't feel they are right, I liked the shirt, I saw nothing wrong with it. But there are so many of them, and they are so vocal. It must be me, I must be not seeing it. Oh Jesus, what have I done?" It's called group pressure, and some people are more susceptible to it than others. The guy strikes me as a nice guy, someone who wants to be nice and who wants to be liked. That makes him a prime target for something like this, and that's exactly why it's so utterly disgusting and contemptible. People responsible for this should feel very, very ashamed. I agree he does seem like a sincere and very nice guy, but again he made an apology because he realised he had offended people. To suggest he only did this because he was forced to or it was due to peer group pressure is a little patronizing. The truth is we will never know the real reason why he apologized but I believe the reason he gave

Coincidently I've just watched this whole incident on CNN, they were saying his shirt was arguably demeaning to women who worked in his industry and that's why he apologized because he really respects the women he works with So once again I can completely understand his apology which he made on own accord

And what if he wanted to apologize? Is that just not possible, he could have realised he made a lapse of judgement wearing that shirt and on further reflection decided that an apology was the best option That's what people do in RL, not every thing is about feminists or SJW forcing people to do things they don't want to do. Sometimes people do decide to do things on there own

Yes, but only because evil frothing at the mouth zealots are out there to shame and harass anyone that doesn't conform to their Nazi-esque dress code where anything that could possibly be identified as a statement of some kind that goes against their strict totalitarian ideals, even in the furthest reaches of a seriously deranged mind, is deemed unacceptable and worthy of a mass coordinated assault. Shame on him for simply putting on the shirt which his friend gifted him for this occasion and not thinking through what extremist zealots might fabricate out of the shirt's content. It's definitely all his fault, and not a fabrication of the sick, deranged, psychotic SJW monsters that aim to destroy free will. Guys a shirt like that can be worn at a Rave, a club, a comic convention or walking around a mall or dozens of others places but it does project an image. Now a person may be fine with the image it projects, like someone wearing a shirt with a neo-Nazi symbol, but you need to accept that you will receive criticism from sectors of society as that image is offensive to some people And obviously the scientist realized that as he apologized. I can also tell you that most corporates wouldn't think too highly of someone coming to a job interview wearing a shirt like that So I don't think we need to see this incident as " glaring example of feminazism " but rather something that was just inappropriate to wear for someone like the scientist who was doing an interview that has global coverage. Its not a mystery or surprise to me why he was admonished? No. Just no. A grown man was brought to tears and made to grovel because he wanted to wear a shirt that a female friend gave him. Yes, it was a gaudy T-shirt, but no, it wasn't offending. Not unless you're the sort of person who is actively out looking to get offended. If it WAS offending I am sure several of the guys female colleagues would have pointed it out to him. The guy was wearing the shirt the whole day and to his colleagues obviously it was a non issue. Even when he does the apologizing they are looking rather puzzled as to what the fuss is about. The only people who seem to care are the people actively looking to get offended and it's getting really tiresome. Well obviously the guy that was wearing the shirt, the scientist, feels different to you. He wouldn't have apologized if he didn't feel he should. He is highly a intelligent man, I'm sure he can make his own mind up and decide for himself if an explanation or apology is warranted? Or is he not capable of deciding that?

Yes, but only because evil frothing at the mouth zealots are out there to shame and harass anyone that doesn't conform to their Nazi-esque dress code where anything that could possibly be identified as a statement of some kind that goes against their strict totalitarian ideals, even in the furthest reaches of a seriously deranged mind, is deemed unacceptable and worthy of a mass coordinated assault. Shame on him for simply putting on the shirt which his friend gifted him for this occasion and not thinking through what extremist zealots might fabricate out of the shirt's content. It's definitely all his fault, and not a fabrication of the sick, deranged, psychotic SJW monsters that aim to destroy free will. Guys a shirt like that can be worn at a Rave, a club, a comic convention or walking around a mall or dozens of others places but it does project an image. Now a person may be fine with the image it projects, like someone wearing a shirt with a neo-Nazi symbol, but you need to accept that you will receive criticism from sectors of society as that image is offensive to some people And obviously the scientist realized that as he apologized. I can also tell you that most corporates wouldn't think too highly of someone coming to a job interview wearing a shirt like that So I don't think we need to see this incident as " glaring example of feminazism " but rather something that was just inappropriate to wear for someone like the scientist who was doing an interview that has global coverage. Its not a mystery or surprise to me why he was admonished?