BruceVC

Guys I need to explain something important that I have come to realize I know most of you probably don't care but despite what you may think of my SJ views I try to be consistent and I am making this post as I was wrong about some of my initial views around GG or rather what you guys have been saying. So this is about the principle as I need to be honest for my own integrity So when the Alexander letter surfaced and GG started I didn't believe you were really feeling that white, male gamers were being targeted unfairly. I thought you were just resisting expected change. To be fair to me and considering where I live and the history of Apartheid in my country its pretty hard to get support if you say " I'm a white male and I'm being discriminated against in the new South Africa " (even though it happens ) and also the reality of the world and where most of you live white males still control the best positions in corporate and in politics and that is not something we need to feel ashamed about as other factors contribute towards that Anyway none of this really reflects your perception...and thats what matters. You felt you were being attacked and vilified ...and there have been direct attacks against white, male gamers. I have come to realize whether I feel that white, male gamers were being blamed is not the point. Our demographic should have the same respect as other groups I defend. Especially considering the fact most of you guys aren't hardcore SJ campaigners in RL , you are just normal people who happen to game. Its not your fault that the gaming fanbase is mostly your group. I don't think of any of you are bigots or sexists, even though they do exist within GG, yet what that initial Alexander letter did was suddenly make certain white, male gamers feel that they had done something wrong. I know what she meant and I know why she did it but it was the wrong strategy. Its not right in any SJ campaign to marginalize one group for the benefit of others...and I know this may sound contradictory as I live in South Africa but we are talking about the gaming industry here and not a system of law. You have to look at this in context and what should have been asked is "what about the normal white gamers who are just here to play games " its not like they have any influence in game design So what does this mean. I'm not joining GG but I do accept the letter was unhelpful and should not have been posted. End of the day this has created a real dichotomy where I feel there didn't have to be. I apologize for not understanding this. For me an important lesson has been sometimes blaming white people is fundamentally unfair where its not accurate. So SJ causes need to be consistent in there criticism or they do lose credibility

Yeah that fits the thread nicely

I suppose if they cute

So I went large again and bought one of those pizzas where you add your own ingredients .....I had Mozzarella, Feta, Pecorino Bacon, Biltong (jerkey) Pepperoni, Ham Pineapple, Mushrooms , Cherry Tomatoes, Roasted Garlic , Pepperdews , Basel and Chilli Its not bad but not as good as the last one

Awww...thats really cute

Are you ashamed of nudity? You obviously fine with mass killings in the game ? I am not a fan of mass killings in games either. That is a weird thing to be a fan of too. I did not say anything about nudity being wrong. I said it is weird to install a mod to make it happen. In Bethesda games it seems even stranger, since they have zero sexuality in them. It is like those nude news channels. That is a weird way to get your news. Anyways, there is nothing wrong with being weird you weirdos. Just admit it and enjoy yourself. Just to be clear you only use the nudity mods when you having sex which is normal ? But I was asking you specifically because I do really consider you a reasonable person based on your life experiences, your family and where you live and if you gave me a really good reason why adult mods were wrong it would be relevant But all Bethesda games have Romance and places like Brothels or there are hookers I'm sure ?

Thanks for the info. I want to respond to his later, but I need to go to work now

Following the weird conventions for Japanese localization, Secret of Mana is the second game in the series while Secret of Mana 3 (or 2) was never released on the states there was a relatively high profile translation project for the ROM version for emulators. Its a good game. I really need to learn Japanese lol. Very fond memories of SoM when I was young. Glad the others were good, and didn't fail like the second chrono trigger did......shivers What for? The game is translated already. You sure? We can wait for a Mod ?

Please can you tell what is wrong with nudity in a game? You have good way of explaining game features so maybe explain it to me

I thought the background was that he used to be some sort of Nazi sympathizer on RPG Codex in his youth; then as an adult working in the games media became a dogmatic SJW; and at some point during GG quit SJWing and took a pretty reasonable-sounding "neutral/moderate" position. Which could be interpreted as multiple consecutive steps in the same positive direction (totalitarian -> authoritarian -> liberal) rather than flip-flopping. But maybe I'm not aware of the whole story... I'm may be missing something but if you are talking about Miles then this is reason I don't want him associated with "anti-GG " Its not that he may be a Nazi its about the fact his presence becomes a distraction as people spend more time attacking his perceived comments than debating the actual issues Now of course there is no such thing as a single " anti-GG " as it consists of different factions like GG but for me personally I am tired of people on both sides using this interminable conflict to push there own narcissistic objectives...people are more concerned with who says what than what is said. And there are real issues that could be discussed

Are you ashamed of nudity? You obviously fine with mass killings in the game ? No I respect you too much to use the standard response to this type of comment...why do you think nudity in a game is weird. Please be honest I want your real and honest opinion

Dude...you won't believe this but I only bought this game last week as well ..its weird how similar we are? Do you think this is a sign?....maybe we should go for dinner, you never know it could work out

Sweet, I enjoyed that game. Hot vampire Toreado women are always a good idea

Its interesting but I never think what we talk about is depressing or heavy but I am unaware of how to distinguish between heavy and normal debate so people need to tell me in RL or I ask them " do you want to discuss politics " but I understand I have a blindness to this Anyway this is a very good thread..very cute

Sure you right...it is harmless , but its more the principle. I have an issue with associating with people who really think its okay to say " a good raping will sort her out " ...you see on the Codex that type of rhetoric is tolerated and that sometimes leads to people thinking that type of comment is acceptable outside the Codex.

Shame the poor Texans ...why is that? I think Texans are hardcore and cool but they wouldn't survive without the rest of the USA ..yes that means even you " liberal weed smoking people from Colorado " ...they need you, they just dont realize it I always find it interesting when I have met some Texans they seem to think Texas is not really part of the USA or it should go on its own. And coincidentally all the hunters I have met in South Africa have all been from Texas...but they were real men. They used longbows and knew how to track and survive in the wilderness..I admire that because I am a city person and know very little about the real wilderness

It made me smile that he specified "US Dollars". Homie don't want no TrillionyBilliony Zimbabwe dollars. Yeah, this kind of stuff irritates me. Theres no molehill that cant be made into a mountain. smh. I will tell you something else since its relevant. You get people who say " hunting is cruel...how can you do it " but unless you are vegan I consider it utterly hypocritically to judge hunting Have you ever been to an abattoir? Have you ever seen the fear and misery of animals as they are led to the slaughter or how battery chickens live ? So if a person objects to hunting based on the cruelty aspect then you need to stop eating all meat. Also in South Africa hunting is part of necessary culling...we need to hunt during the year to control the animal population. And if wealthy foreigners are prepared to pay good money to hunt this is even better

Interesting. If I read the Wikipedia entry correctly, that law was meant to regulate trade across state boundaries, and has in practice been expanded to punish the trade and import of protected species parts from other countries - but not the killing itself, which is the business of that other country. So I guess that agency wants to know if he took home a trophy... I also think the USA doesnt like getting this type of criticism..." rich white capitalist comes to Africa to kill our national resources " but trust me the whole thing is completely exaggerated and really misplaced concern as it does nothing to address the real problem

But there are tools that help you to merge stuff / create merge patches. Therefore, at least technically, you can run more than 255 mods. I'm too lazy/stupid to figure it out. Quite frankly I don't care a lot about Skyrim that I will learn new stuff for it or maybe I really haven't found a group of mods that I thought would really enhance the experience further. You're one weird SJW. Ah my friend you are making the same assumption about SJW that many people make...you are assuming we have all the same views and have this monolithic view around principles or objections Why wouldn't I find women like that appealing in a game ? I care about RL issues like homophobia, racism and sexism. I reject the idea that me finding an image of a women attractive or an interesting part of game somehow a contradiction to my core beliefs ...and trust me I am very comfortable with my view on this matter

http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/12556/? http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/18717/? Now these are Mods

That sounds like your typical dutch selection of Mods...nothing really inspirational hey ?

But people do tend to care more about the animals than other people. I remember reading several articles on this and will see if I can dig up links if anyone cares. I believe the order of precedence of ****s given is as follows 1. Human babies 2. Animal babies 3. Adult animals 4. Adult humans 5. Gwyneth Paltrow Also, I personally have no issues with hunting for food either but trophy hunting isn't something I can get behind Yes please try to find them, I have pondered this question and believe that the reason it appears that people care more about animals is that animals are defenseless and are part of the ecosystem and in the case of rhinos there really are a finite number of them. Also we care about rhinos and we care about impoverished people so I see no conflict But I'm interested what is your objection to trophy hunting?

Yeah that is no surprise, I don't doubt that game rangers living in Zimbabwe are genuinely upset but all the rhetoric from the Zim government is just anti-Western diatribe, false anger and as you said probably an attempt to get money from the USA But now you have all the hardcore anti-hunting groups lambasting and vilifying this dentist ...yet where were they when there was the mass death of all the other Zim animals due to government policy?

There is another side to this whole killing of Cecil In the interest of full disclosure I have no issue with legal hunting as I eat meat and venison which comes from hunting. But firstly Palmer claims he didn't know as he mentioned but now the Zimbabwe authorities have arrested the two trackers and are making a BIG deal about it, like really big. They are saying they want to implement some law to jail them for 10 years and are "appalled at the utter disregard this American has for the wildlife and sovereign wildlife of Zimbabwe" so this is going around some media circles as an attack on the USA But in South Africa we have been dealing with the extermination of our Rhino's for years ...and yet this is often seen as a " white issue " as it seems like " white people care more about rhino than indigent black people " and more importantly the actions of the Zimbabwean government over the last 13 years have led to game parks closing or being put under extreme financial pressure which has led to 80 % of the total population of animals in Zimbabwe that were on game parks dying http://time.com/3976344/cecil-lion-zimbabwe-walter-palmer/ So my point is the Zimbabwe government are the people really responsible for the mass death of its wildlife

The scope is what worries me, Cyberpunk with all of its classes and their inividual approaches dwarf the fairly one dimensional approach of Deus Ex, now how can they implement that: A Solo may play in a similar fashion to Jensen, but a Netrunner, an Executive, a Rock Star all have so many approaches that mandate different content as to make an almost dizzying variety. I foresee that they are either going to have to artificially funnel the player in some manner or make content that lacks the detail they usually bestow on their settings. If they can make all of the classes feel genuinely as different in approach as the tabletop game however, and make a narrative as detailed and personal as is present in the Witcher, then I think the game will probably set a new benchmark. It seems like a Herculean task however. Have faith young grasshopper, have faith " hope springs eternal in the human breast " and all that