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Volo my family is from Britain but I was born in SA What I always find interesting is how little credit the UK gets for all it did for the world, we brought civilization to dark continents and exported things like Tea. We created roads and institutions and yet all people remember is "colonialism " ....its like thats all that matters Aren't you thankful to the UK ?

Interesting, I phoned in on this typically black talk show and asked the Talk Show host who I know is very pro black consciousness about that website and why they feel the need to say " I don't like white people " ...she actually knows the two editors who made all these anti-white articles. She actually defended it and said " whats wrong with saying I don't like white people " ...I told her " well how can you say you dont like a whole racial group " Anyway it appeared she is okay to say that. I''ll be continuing to challenge that websites view....I don't care what they think. Racism is racism even if its not the same from black people. I am surprised that there black people who seem so militant but thats fine, I wont take offense

The point is that, as usual, the full weight of the law is falling on this idiot because she's small fish and being open about her reasons. If you are a big shot and smart enough to spread responsibility around with legal gymnastics, you can get away with murder, quite literally. We're all equal under the law, but some are more equal than others, right? To be fair this incident is a bit more significant than just some women She represents one of the last remaining unreasonable resistances to a Supreme Court ruling..its more symbolic And she was given many options and time to abide by the law ?

You right, for me I want to understand how this group of black South Africans could have become so bitter that they seem to believe that white people are still repressing them and treating them like slaves ? Its a failure of our transformation and it disappoints me

You beat me to it Raithe. Why is it the defenders of morality seldom are champions of it in their own lives? Or maybe we just are hip deep in hypocrites after all. The truth is if you have a moral objection the right thing to do would be resign. Not pull a Wallace and stand in front of the school house door. GD would you say she is hot in a court clerk sort of way ?

Epic fail of analysis ...weird for you as you are normally much more insightful on these matters Its a bad example to compare any war to this ....not sure how that is relevant in any way ?

Interesting, I really only align to the more liberal Democrats so that is interesting

You can't seriously think the Democrats and Republicans have the same views...thats something ignorant South Africans make when they attack the USA

OMG !!! Now I have complete contempt for her ..she played this religious card when in fact she was homophobic...I am actually annoyed and hope the really religious people who aligned with thinking she was being sincere are annoyed EDIT : Oh wait she hasn't changed her mind ....my bad

Please tell me she is not ....surly Heh, as if only a Republican can be a religious nutjob. Please tell me she is not ....surly It's a matter of public record that Davis is a Democrat. She should know, being that she is the County Clerk-Recorder, and thus the custodian of said records. Yes, isn't it true that most Conservative Christians and Chrsitian extremists are Republican? I always assumed that ...my bad Well I don't see how she can claim to be a Democrat when same sex marriage became so important to the Democrats in the last few years, Obama even publicly started supporting it

He would say that ALL HUMANS are equal in the eyes of god and ALL should treat each other with equal respect, regardless of gender, race, nationality or sexual orientation Well said ..thats exactly what he would have said and I'm not religious but I do think he lived and was a man of great kindness and humanity

Can you imagine what she would think of the gay Romance in DA Please tell me she is not ....surly

Also I hear she is a hardcore GG supporter.....typical

Volo ...sometimes in life there is too much law and not enough justice

Volo always ends up playing the metaphorical inexplicable Devils Advocate on these matters ...with a touch of Nazism thrown in of course

Yes Volo...stop being an anarchist and hater of the law

I want to share something with you guys just so you can understand some of the SJ debates and challengers people like me who as white South Africans are committed to the multiracial economic transformation of the country have to grapple with . I'm not complaining but this article is from a relatively new group of young disillusioned black South Africans "intellectuals " who are determined to rediscover black consciousness in South Africa and have decided that white people are the reason for all the lack of achievement in black culture. This type of thing doesn't annoy or anger me ...its just misplaced. Try to read it if you are able http://vanguardmagazine.co.za/of-coconuts-land-and-friendships-a-generational-schism-in-madibas-rainbow/

Check your zipper before they put you under and then again when you come to, if you're able Something about anesthesia makes your fly open up... or maybe that's just me Dude that must the funniest thing you have ever said on these forums....it really cracked me up

Yes my first view was " just fire her " but its true I read she can't be fired as she was an elected official

Volo thats why you Canadians have majors who smoke crack and still stay on in office ....you guys have no sense of law and justice

I guess she should look for work that doesn't threaten her to eternal damnation? This lady is just a tool on a crusade. Don't you find it interesting that she doesn't have any issue with her own multiple marriages and pregnancy out of wedlock but she's afraid she'll burn in hell if her name is on another couples marriage certificate? C'mon. A-holes gonna a-hole. You right actually ..I forgot that part about her multiple marriages So in fact this changes my view of her as a true religious zealot....she is probably just homophobic which means I will bet she won't last 1 week in jail

Shame ..I hear what you saying but imagine how she sees this, she truly believes her mortal soul is in danger....but jail is probably worse

Volo there is a valid reason for jailing her from the judges perspective....I may not agree with it but it is valid. From this CNN link http://edition.cnn.com/2015/09/03/politics/kentucky-clerk-same-sex-marriage-kim-davis/index.html " During the hearing, one witness told the court that Davis had denied her a marriage license three times, and when Davis took the stand, the clerk explained that she could not issue the licenses because of her religious beliefs. American Civil liberties Union attorneys argued in a motion filed Monday that Davis "continues to collect compensation from the Commonwealth for duties she fails to perform." They said they didn't want her to be jailed as punishment, but rather, the attorneys asked the court to "impose financial penalties sufficiently serious and increasingly onerous" to make her comply with the high court's order. U.S. District Judge David Bunning, however, apparently felt she deserved jail time, but he also told Davis she could end her incarceration by complying with the Supreme Court order and telling her deputy clerks to do the same "

Also I read she has to stay in jail until she issues the licenses Now what will she do.....will she really be prepared to stay in jail indefinitely over her religious views....its seems a bit unfair ?