Orogun01

Been playing it for a while now. Apparently no russian gun shoots straight; except for the bad's guys. Overall is like Fallout but Russian and uglier and without character progression; but the guns are nice.

You are complaining about bugs on an Obsidian forum. The irony!

I know, Fallout had some great DLC and not just some cheap items.

I do love how they say that the charges are the equivalent to what a guy would spend on drinks at a bar and are shameless enough to say that the intent is to talk to girl instead of getting them drunk

Why would I pay a girl to talk to me when I'm gaming when I have a good family nagging me about responsibility and me being a bum. I need that money for therapy instead BTW, is there any confirmation on whether you can play "those" japanese games with them

IMO, they should all adopt the Bethesda model. They have the best DLC out there.

You know the saying, so bad that is good.

That exactly was his explanation - you don't need them. I suspect the real reason for not including them is some sort of inter-company bureucracy. So even though you bought them with real money, you can't port them to the expansions? Methinks that BW is going a little off their rocker. We should had seen Sonic as a warning sign of their descent to madness.

A network of sorts already exists, or at least the potential for one. Amongst low income communities there are ex-con individuals that serve as advisors and try to help those trying to leave that life, but without any form of organization or the government to back them their efforts to return rate remains low. The pieces are already there, the only thing needed is someone to take the step forward and connect the dots, uniting them under one group dedicated to a more general rehabilitation process and not just within the niche to which each ex-con used to belong to. The public has no need to know of this; if at first this remains a small project and produces favorable results it can then be brought to the mainstream. The major problems I foresee is that most of these individuals are targets for anyone trying to make their bones and putting them under the same roof may be a bad idea, also because of American law it will be a slow crusade to approve this; even with good results.

I can't find any numbers that actually show how many poor people we have - but I would be surprised if we weren't in the top 10 of countries with equally distributed wealth. Especially given our tax rates that go from 20-70% based on annual income. So I imagine we have a very homogeneous society mainly consisting of few poor and few very rich. Going to jail has an affect, but it really depends on the situation and what you did. In my experience, it's mostly the big companies that refuse to hire someone with a criminal background. But if you've done time because of financial crimes then you'll have a hard time getting a job, we don't like people who steal. It's important to understand though that we don't place such a huge emphasis on family values (in public) as you do - if a politician is caught cheating on his wife then people lose a little respect for him, but he won't lose his job - if he's caught stealing or gets a DUI however.. So if people have done crimes that have nothing to do with their competence in a given job, then we are more forgiving - and very harsh if they have. The reason why I asked is precisely the level of prejudice against any wrongdoer that exist on the States, rehabilitation is nothing without a support net which most criminals can't find outside. Maybe they should implement a system where the reformed criminals turned social workers try not only to prevent crime by public speaking in front of youth, but also try to offer a way out for the criminals that grow tired of that kind of living. Opinions? Be careful, those kind of comments might make you catch fire BTW, I truly truly Hate the new post system Can't find what was the last post and have to scroll down after seeing them. I better stop now before I turn green.

How long you think it will take to veto it? 100,000 gamers are probably out crying for blood right now.

I do see your point; I guess that as a humanist I tend to overestimate the value of choice. Because I believe that the choices that aren't made are still choices taken. Well, the chap's nurture could outset his nature and balance his personality. I would argue that those petty criminals that joined the army have some measure of humanity that many within the system lack. Perhaps is the whole ideology that gangs have attached to crime and the necessity of viciousness to maintain status. I would also say that the discipline instilled on them by the Army may had made them better men, although that is not always the case and many gangs exist within the military or the reverse; which is worse, military trained men going into gangs. Even though what you say is true, the exception still exist where the world of violence may in turn make bottom up criminals violent. But I sorta feel that we are missing the point among this discussion, reformation was the main subject. I will challenge your model, since bottom up and top down have no real bearing on reformation and it's the character of the individual that determines this. I say this because examples of top down criminals that are not violent by nature and therefore face easier reformation come to mind. Greed is motivation rather than a factor in determining how it is attained, there have been and are many intelligent criminals that become successful without resorting to violence or keeping it to a minimum.

I'm going to disagree strongly with you here, you are completely ignoring personal responsibility. A lot of people live in need and not all of them turn criminal, simply because they did not choose it. What's worse you make it sound as if criminal are hopeless cases because they are uneducated or have a physical deficiency. I would have to ask you, what kind of crimes are you talking about? I'm going to guess based on your post that you are referring to gangs. I guess i'm just reminder of the two kinds of gangbangers: the ones that join out of necessity, greed, or naivety and eventually get out or become less involved, and the ones that love the "game" and want to go down guns blazing. I will make the distinction between "fishes" and "sharks" here. There is a lot of aspects to prison culture, most "sharks" offenders find their niche on one of the prisons gangs. Is this element that allows for the trading of information and the development of connections (they know a guy that knows a guy kind of thing) While the "fishes" may suffer the most, they tend to want to close that chapter of their lives and move on. Two systems would not work because is the serious offenders that benefit from prison to further their criminal careers.

It's the Blues Brothers

Wow, he's basically saying 'The story doesn't seem to make any sense, so I'll overanalyze and come up with something 10 times better than Squaresoft's plot'. And dammit, he delivers. Maybe someone needs to start the FFVIII thread. Figuring it out can't be harder than the Da Vinci code.

I'll try to figure it before the doctors realize i'm not in my cell

You'd think that you could take him to the Pearl afterwards so that he may seal his "hardening" by "licking some posts" and finally becoming a man. That one is also sexual!

Have you checked the examples I provided? I would really like to know which are these games you talk about, because in my years of gaming all JRPGs had the same structure of the PC being "special" or as we say on the West: The Chosen One. FF breakdown of the effeminate villain: FFVI- The first years after playing it I though Kefka was a woman he's a man FFVII- Sepiroth with his long flowing hair and bishounen features doesn't look the least effeminate to you? FFVIII- Seifer Almasy, who looks like David Bowie. FFX- Seymour Guado

You argue a difference in motivation not on their character; both genres follow the Chosen One motif. Although FF is one of the franchises where it least explicit since it usually focuses on a motley crew of unique characters fighting some greater evil and an effeminate villain, and that's the plot of every game on the series I would argue that the Chosen One is more present on JRPGs: Breath of Fire series Star Ocean series The legend of Gaia and the rest of games vaguely related to it These are just a few. In all these games the main character has the same trait: a hidden power that comes to shine later on the game and makes him vital to defeat the evil terrorizing the land. Whether his motives are internal or external does not change this fact.

Sounds like a great model, yet I have to wonder if is applicable to every society? You are Danish, right? How big is the separation amongst classes? and how would going to jail affect an individual's life after release? I ask this because I'm trying to figure if this model could be applied here on the States, my expectations are low but if it could grant results the decrease on crime could be significant.

Well, he's French. Sacre Bleu!

Both of you make good points, the solution is on balancing. No sensible human being would deny care to a sick person, so a compromise is not out of the question. Using existing facilities instead of building a few that specialize on these young criminals, is a more feasible option. There are already mental facilities for the youth, a ward dedicated to criminal cases could be added and rehabilitation could be funded by the state as it were an individual paying. Of course that would only leave the matter of balancing that expense. As for "rehabilitation"; I believe it to be futile to some degrees. While it can turn them into functioning members of society, I question the quality of life that these individuals will enjoy. As they will carry the stigma of their actions for all their lives, which is why I don't really believe in successful rehabilitation. At the cost of sounding cynical I will say that the main concern is not to heal, but to prevent a repeat of the act and to assimilate them into the economic structure of society. These are mental illness after all, there is not really a cure there is just learning to live with them.

There's a good chance they'd just call Shepard insane. Especially that Turian councilor. Still the asari would be inclined to accept it and where the asari go the turian and salarian follow.

In an utilitarian setting, perpetrators lose. Because: 1-They will never be completely rehabilitated 2- The victim's pain or their relatives 3- The spending of resources In a humanitarian setting you would rehabilitate the perpetrators because of faith on mankind and all that But is my fear that we may be making a loophole for them to escape. This case was obviously premeditated assault and the lack of guilty mind should have no bearing on the outcome of a trial. I don't think that resources should be spent on specific and rare cases that could be treated by already existing facilities. @Rosbjerg: You wanted my anecdote? I'm Cuban, 'nuff said. If you want specifics we'll go to PM.

You just found out?!!