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Yea, makes sense this way. Dunno about the internal "leads" though.

Didn't the SEGA people say the bugs were greatly reduced? So..um...what?

Don't be dissin' me Garrus mate! The council is a funny bunch, you save their asses, they give you a position among them but apologizing? Nooooooooo.

Believing is one thing, conducting a proper investigation is another.

In the end, let's just say I saved the Destiny Ascension, not the council.

Exactly.Except when it's played for laughs. Certainly, I was just referring to the endless (if even today funny) [iNT] quotes and other examples. The writing is an admitted "crime", it doesn't need proving.

Sorry, I meant after Virmire, not sure why I wrote hours tho.

Then they don't believe you about Sovereign, hours after you proved to them that yes, Saren is indeed a traitor. I understand why they would want proof of this, but why make someone a SPECTER if you don't trust their word? Spec ops doesn't mean they always can provide evidence, and to boot, the last time they bought a witness, he was disregarded, without personal inquiry or anything. BTW, two words: Asari joining (Hey Shepard, can I take a look at those visions of yours?). Salarian investigation. Truth serum. 10k years worth of technology. Also, I didn't need the novels. Did Saren provide proof about half the mission failing 'cause of Anderson? No? Not that hard with facial paint and skin tone.

Nope. I played the game, then found stuff simply lacking. See the ending for example: You're completely arbitrarily forced into a stupid sacrifice situation - is it stupid because of bias? no, because very badly "justified" -, if you choose the selfish option you get reprimanded - it offers choice... then judges me. A choice I made because the situation was arbitrary -, then the ending slide show: as I said, it reprimands you for your choice and, in comparison with the first two (hell, in comparison with Tactics) is simply..less. Does this have to do anything with bias? No. It's minimalistic and bar the last choice, unspecific. A simple matter of more vs less. Did that keep me from acknowledging the last part with the family photo and the nice music to be a nice touch? Nope. That bias can exist doesn't mean everyone is biased about everything. Aaaand prejudice != bias. +The people "biased" towards F3 hated the ending too.

Sorry, I don't, at least in F3's case. It had the chance to impress me, but failed.

Does anyone have a pic of that fanart where Sand is yelling "Objection!" much to shock and amazement of everyone else? It was epic. Bonus:

I did, months ago, on the Beth forums too.

Transcript of the Interplay-Bethesda courtroom mess.

Ungh, don't mention talking with NPCs about your origin story, the memories make shudder even today. "Oh, you lost your parents, I'm sorry I bought this up, you probably don't want to talk about it." YES I WANT DOUCHEBAG, I'm not allowed to give some ****ing exposition? Hey, hey, PC person, listen to my overly long and sad backstory! Oh, your backstory is even sadder? Who cares, you're my emotional trashcan.

Well, there's a reason for that IIRC.

http://masseffect.wikia.com/wiki/Soldier

Says the guy too dumb to have a real job, too fat and weak to do a productive job, and to ****ty an actor to get a real role.

+1

That description fits (or rather, doesn't differentiate from) a gaiden (spin-off) game too, like Tactics. That said, 'nothing like FO' is a bit extreme, even when talking exclusively about gameplay. You don't have to be 'driven off' to go and laugh at others' tattoos. I don't have to be driven off to eat breakfast. @Purk: Haters have the NMA crowd (who aren't here) and Twinkie. Hater haters have mkreku, who joins the NV weapon balance discussion -where people talk about the pros and cons of both the FO 1-2 and 3 approach- in the other thread just to shout 'stop dissing fo 3 already' in a rabid, foamy-mouthed manner. Hater haters aren't much better. Both parties (Hell, 99% of the internet - I actively try not to, but I'm human too) LOVES to skim over facts just so s/he can bash whatever he wants and call the "opposition" idiots. For all their opinions and over-zealousness everyone here (Twinkie and mkreku too) are discussing and talking about what they perceive as facts. OTOH I've seen a thread on NMA which was about (I'm not kidding) bashing F3 and Beth because there are no groin shots. Not liking F3 is one thing, but I've yet to see anyone with such a low IQ here. @some other people: "Stop the hate already!" and "Stay on topic!" being repeated certainly won't add to the discussion. Honestly speaking, while mods doing their job is a good thing, this thread does "belong" to Writeguard, if he decides to indulge in gameplay discussion then so be it. The important thing of a thread is (IMO) it's theme, not it's title. Besides, I've rewritten the @Purk part of my post so many times, it probably has nothing to do anymore with what I originally wanted to tell to him, so derailing is kinda natural, and not just for me. There's only so much people can say about writing, while gameplay options and variables are much easier to remember (and check up) than N/PC quotes. Not to mention that ripping one, two or three conversations out is not a good representation of either good or bad writing, experience says humans remember what they liked and disliked the most, not the stuff in between. @everyone: Before the release of FO 3, Todd Whatzisname already said they didn't give a damn about the writing, so dissing it is being captain obvious while defending it is retarded. Not to mention that for something they didn't care about, it certainly has some good parts. You made me write a lot. You all owe me ice cream.

IIRC there's four in every category.

Word. Imagine an APC. You leave the dog there, go into town to buy stuff and upon getting back see the door wide open, blood everywhere and the dog happily munching on what looks like a leg. You pet the dog, stolen car tracking sidequest averted! I stand (well lie, but you know what I mean) in awe sir. You need a desert bus to swiftly get to Dustlake Town. There are two companies offering this service: Skill Driverz (with the S barely hanging on the board) and Ranger Tours. The latter takes the safer (and longer) scenic route on the road while the former just asks the direction and goes pedal to the metal. Road kill, "what's a brake?", mountain climbing, car crashes and hilarity ensues.

Guess I'll have to decide between him and Thane. If I still have to endure that decompression or disinfection when entering the ship they can forget about me constantly changing party members.

Considering Obsidian's history, I'd be surprised if they're given enough time or budget to implement voice acting. Point taken.

Considering FO 3's success, I wouldn't be surprised if Obs got a big enough paycheck for more VAs.

I see, okay.