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I would think that people that play the game as many times as you guys do are in an extreme minority. I played through it 5 times and that took up a huge chunk of my time.

Let me just interject that it is quite clear the Physics of our our universe are absolutely not the same in the Star Wars universe. Hence any comparisons between them accomplish nothing.

I suppose you are right CastleBravo. I guess the thing I was thinking was that it didn't really make much sense to me to run past Junktown (or any other town) to get to the town just after it (Hub). As a result, I almost always progressed through the game in the same way. And Nur Ab Sal......why do you hate the Leviathan so much? Is it that unreasonable to think that Malak has tracked you down? After all, you are flying around in the Ebon Hawk, and by this time have even killed Darth Bandon I believe. There's one thing about restricted linearity, but this linearity makes perfect sense within the confines of the story. To have it be random would, quite frankly, be silly.

I cannot answer. I try to play my character by the moment. In the original KOTOR, I was basically a nice guy that tried to be helpful. I wanted to become a good Jedi, but sometimes I used the force in bad ways, rationalizing it for the "greater good." As I became more dark, I started to pick the darkside option a bit more (plus, if I got annoyed, I would be snappy). Furthermore, I was seduced by the darkside on Korriban. I felt I need to act like I was embracing the darkside, but couldn't admit to myself that I really was. I had become quite evil, and as it turns out, Bastila's urging me to take on the mantle of Dark Lord of the Sith was the final push to put me all the way darkside. It was perfect timing

I will concede that Fallout does have the time issue...which is missing from virtually every RPG aside from it. I like it, because you had to remember you did have some sort of purpose. What was your progress through the game? I cannot imagine a different one just based on the way towns are made available through dialogue. At the same time, I am probably biased because I probably used similar ways each time I played through the game to get the towns. As for the slaughter, I remember Bioware/Lucasarts stating they didn't want mass massacres, because it does exist in a specific timeline, and Tatooine does not get wiped out, nor do the Wookies get eliminated. Furthermore, because travel is limited based on a lot of the information you receive in dialogue, there was probably concerns of the massacres breaking the game and making it unbeatable. I also never particularly liked the massacre approach, because I do not think the AI reacts to it appropriately. I do not think there is any way someone could annihilate the boneyard as just one (or two with an NPC) person. Eventually you should get overwhelmed. But the AI is not up to the task.

Ah...so many things to say. Might as well start at the beginning: PCs do die though. Unless you are still using your old 286 to play KOTOR. The lifespan of consoles and PCs is probably pretty equivalent. And I would wager that a console upgrade is much cheaper. Oh, and I am a PC gamer Actually, I'm pretty sure it can be any planet where you meet Darth Bandon (it is Darth Bandon's encounter isn't it?) ??????? This logically does not make any sense. You are on the internet, where you would be most likely to sample a population of PC gamers compared to X-Box gamers. Any polls done on the internet are inherently biased towards PC gamers, and have exactly zero validity. My English 101 teacher would have a field day for the wordiness of you post. Big words != intelligence, especially when it is a grammitically difficult read. Your idea about using the poll is infinitely more damaging to the way people will perceive your intelligence as opposed to using big words. Additionally, someone making a "discourteous" post does not imply the lack of intelligence, as you indicate. I'd suggest a bit more practice, since your grammatical errors take away anything that the large words contribute. I think his implication was that someone that plays PC games is more likely to have access to a site like this because he owns the PC required, whereas a console gamer can be a console gamer without having a PC. If somehow all X-Box gamers could access this site, I'm confident that this poll would be so heavily slanted in favour of the X-Box you wouldn't even recognize that anyone voted for PC Who here is gossiping? I fail to see the point. PCs may be more universal...but are gaming PCs more universal? I have an old Apple II at my parents place....but I'm not playing any new games on it for obvious reasons. Consoles greatly outnumber gaming PCs. While else would development be shifting to consoles more and more. Mainstay PC developers are now beginning to develop for consoles. It's where the money is, because there is a larger installed base. Hence, the market for console gamers is larger than the market of PC gamers. While multiplayer gaming is certainly more widespread on a PC than on a console, I certainly would not say "no fuss." We are all speaking as experienced PC gamers. Playing online via X-Box live is easier than multiplaying on a PC for the average joe. Console gamers often are not geeks that know how to patch their games manually. I cannot think of many games that, if I were to just install them right now, I could simply connect to the internet and start playing against other people. There is always patch considerations (and this of course ignores any other technical aspects, such as bandwidth and their computer capabalities as to whether or not they'll even try playing the game on their PC), and possibly other things to download to make sure you play the game you want. Half the people I work with play games with X-Box live, and don't even own computers (anecdotal evidence I know). The one that does own a computer, gets frustrated trying to play games online because he isn't sure what to do when it doesn't immediately work. He's just quoting Dak'kon from Planescape: Torment. He would stress the word "know" whenever he spoke it. *Knowing* was very important to his people.

I think another thing being overlooked is that the lightsaber doesn't require the leverage and whatnot to actually cut. I could "swing" it at 0.00001 m/s and it'll still cut right through you

Thanks CastleBravo. I suppose the thing about Fallout is that you can travel anywhere at anytime. But this aside, even the game tends to play itself out in a somewhat linear fashion, unless you already know the plot and simply skip entire parts of the game. For example, Fallout 1 you start at the vault, go to Shady Sands, to Vault 15, back to Shady Sands, to the raiders (although the raiders area isn't very deep), to Junktown, to the Hub. From here it's a bit more varied, but it does nudge you towards Boneyard, where you have the options then to find the Brotherhood, Cathedral, Glow, and other stuff. But thinking about it....is this really that much different than say the 4 planet area of KOTOR or other similar game? I'm wondering if my love of Fallout is biasing my judgement to be in favour of it...when maybe it isn't actually as different as it may seem. The only real straightforward differences I can see are the move anywhere and kill anything. A problem with the move anywhere though is that I think it takes away from the "roleplaying," as I cannot fathom what the motivation would be to just start randomly walking the land. I dunno. I'm kinda playing devil's advocate here too....hoping to get an interesting debate started

Didn't people get really ticked at Bioware for their own variations that were no where near what the 3rd Edition rules actually were? Especially in terms of spells (IIRC)?

I'm pretty sure SecurROM is Atari's choice, not Obsidian's.

When I was a guardian, I used two full length sabers because they did more damage. I can hardly remember ever seeing "miss" on my screen anyways, so the penalty to hit was moot.

I think that by the time the majority of the people found these forums, there was not much room to implement any suggestions anyway.

How does the cheating affect the replay value of a game?????

I think the reason the lightsabers don't appear to be weightless is because it would be impossible to truly understand what it would be like to use a weightless blade, mostly because they cannot exist. Also, the lightsaber should be used as <whatever> also overlooks that a Jedi's command of the lightsaber is heavily influenced by his ability to manipulate the force. Things that apply to our combat does not apply to lightsaber combat. Also, any reason for you to not think it's weightless, rather than just "thinking" it.

I played through KOTOR four times, and enjoyed every playthrough. While I would consider Fallout 2 to be a more open ended game than KOTOR.....thinking about it got me thinking.....how so? To be honest.....I'm actually having a hard time coming up with how Fallout 2's story has so much more choice than KOTORs. The only thing I could think of was that a lot of the quests were sidequests, so you had the choice of whether to do them or not.

I really think Obsidian should try a setting that either hasn't been done before (which would be cool....but I'm too uncreative to even begin to think of one ), or one that has been seldom used. As much as I like Fallout and all that, it does seem like the settings in RPGs are becoming static.

As much as I may hate to say it, I think the SecureROM stuff actually does stop casual piracy pretty effectively. Most of my friends know how to burn from one CD to another, but few know how to find the appropriate files on the internet, then burn it to CD, then find the crack and any appropriate CD Key. Of course I have never had a problem with my CDs failing their CD check....so I have never suffered, which certainly helps me hold to my conviction.

Still preferred my flurry Did you get 4 critical strike hits if you used dual wield with master speed? The way the game made it sound, for both power attack and critical strike, you would lose your additional attacks per round if you attempted any of these attacks....was that the case?

Ooooo....I forgot: The Wrath of Sion!

Shadows of Tatooine The Search for phat l3wt Heart of Sith Of Spaceships & Force Obscura The Fall of Darth Revan Throne of Sion Sith Lord Tomorrow (I'm running out of ideas....looking around room) Tales of the Sith Coast Hell on Coruscant (ok...I'm done)

I'd have to go with Flurry. Combined with Master Speed, I would usually do around 40-50 damage per attack x 5 attacks = 200-250 damage per round....very nice.

Yeah....I understand that there is cost requirements. Just something I'd like to see I suppose I could just take better care of my manuals....but sometimes I'll find a really old game and want to play it, but the manual is who knows where. If it's under consideration then that's all I can ask for. I have no access to the financial books, so I cannot tell

One thing I like about Bioware's website is that I can register my CD-Keys online. This would have been useful since I could not find my NWN manual...but I forgot to allow myself access to it on that page In any case, I would appreciate it if Obsidian did something like this for their games, because sometimes the manual goes missing and it sucks to be unable to play a game because of that.

Ah...never did get the ring. I should replay the game, since I have nothing better to do at the moment

Was it actually possible to redeem Aribeth in the OC? I always had to fight her.