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But Hades....what about their horrible track record after NWN? Glad to see nothing has changed while I was away. Still holding Fallout as the RPG to beat?

Good to see people haven't gotten any smarter while I was away. Where should I begin? I guess I'll start at the beginning I'm not sure what you're trying to say. It sounds like you are trying to twist the situation that they are somehow not working on a patch, or feel that announcing a potential shutdown of the forums as more important than the patch. Except that a patch annoucement is in big, bold letters on the Company's homepage. So what's so "convenient" about it. ??? Seriously. What are you talking about here? Shutting down the forum (which as others have pointed out, is not officially related to the game you purchased), has no bearing on the patch. It's not like they are closing up shop and just ignoring everyone because they are elitists that don't care what people think. And that's just post 1! On to Master Vandar73's post: Fortunately, they didn't sell a game that does not run for most people, so I don't see how this is relevant. And it doesn't matter what you call it, since the situation you described is not the situation you are in. There is a big giant comment on the company homepage about a patch announcement. Closing down the forums does NOT imply that they have no intentions of fixing it. So sure, you described fraud, but neither Lucasarts nor Obsidian Entertainment have engaged in either point you mention as being "fraud." As for Master Vandar73's second post, check this out: First off, your first sentence is irrelevant. Yes it's the opinion of someone that can actually get the game to install or run. But so can many, MANY other people. But the real kicker is YOU holding Obsidian responsible for NWN not installing on your system, when the game was not even made by Obsidian. You might as well re-register under a new nickname, because when you go around trashing a company based on stupid statements like the one you just made which is actually not in anyway true, I don't blame Obsidian for wanting to close the forums. In case I wasn't 100% clear though, Obsidian DID NOT make NWN. Bioware did. Furthermore, if you couldn't get NWN to install on your computer either, then maybe the problem is not with "buggy" games, but your computer. Quit making crap up about the company just so you can slag on them more. Fortunately, the rest of the thread isn't quite so asinine as these two geniuses. I think they are considering closing the forums because they are getting out of control. There is no moderation going on, and with geniuses like Master Vander73 running around, stupid crap is flying around like mad. Any forum is reflective of the company that controls it. If Obsidian continues to let the forum degrade into the cesspool it is becoming, then it would be unprofessional to let it continue down its current path. Additionally, the lack of moderation also means that he's gonna get spammed with more e-mails. He's busy enough as it is, not considering he just had his second chile, and the fact that things are getting out of control is resulting in unnecessary e-mails to staff members. The announcement is not just for the KOTOR 2 forums though. As I said, the forum reflects on them as a company. It's just as unprofessional to allow trollers that do not contribute to discussions (which is the point Feargus brought up...not that they wanted to avoid people that were having problems with KOTOR 2), to run rampant on their forums, disrupting any hope of meaningful discussion. Which is NOT what they are doing.

I don't think it has anything to do with the Redemption quest. The two times I have played through the game I have had that quest "unfinished." However, I still haven't seen anyone that has had the problem that did not go to Dantooine first. It's the weekend now, so I might be able to get in some playing this weekend. I plan on going to Dantooine first and doing a couple of things differently. I'm going to go all the way through Dantooine and finish the planet, and if my game dies, then I am going to try doing some of Dantooine but not quite finishing off the planet, and see where things go from there.

I am the original poster of this thread, and I have since played through the game twice, just making sure that I did Dantooine last. I have not had a problem with the game as long as I did Dantooine last, so I wonder if it is a Dantooine-First problem. I don't think it has anything to do with Dxun/Onderon, because I would get the black screen after just doing Datooine->Korriban. I am playing through again, and am going to do Dantooine first this time...but I am going to try two different ways....one way will be normal...finish the planet and then go off some where (probably Nar Shadda). My second way will be to ALMOST complete Dantooine, but leave before it's actually finished, and then continue on with the game. If people are having problems, if you don't mind restarting, it should work with no problems whatsoever if you do Dantooine last (and I would probably suspect as long as you don't do it first, you'll be ok).

Odd...considering your name and everything

A quick and simple question....can any PC-Jedi class train the NPC party members? I went through as a Sith Lord and was able to train, which makes sense. If I went through say as a Weapon Master, can I still train people in the force?

Hmm, I just did some testing around, and I cannot fly to Dantooine after I do Korriban...which is also the same time I get my prestige class.... So perhaps it's one of those two in correlation with Dantooine being the first planet I go to?

Actually...I see what you mean. I try going to Dantooine after Korriban and whatnot, and I get the freeze

That is the EXACT order that I went through the planets....hmmmm How did you realize this problem before hand? It hit me out of now where

Hello everyone, This post will contain minor spoilers, although nothing too surprising IMO. I was wondering if anyone else has experienced the same problem I have. Basically I have gotten through all the planets and found all the Jedi and now have to return to Dantooine. I have not had a problem with the so far, but for whatever reason, whenever I try to leave the Ebon Hawk on Dantooine (this is after already being there and doing all the stuff there the first time), the game pauses on a blank screen. I still have my mouse cursor and it moves fine, but the only thing I am able to do is ALT-F4 (which still brings up the "Are you sure you want to quit?" dialog box). I tried various loaded games....to no avail. I have even tried going to a different planet first, and still no luck. It must have something to do with whatever script must go on...because I can still get off the Ebon Hawk at any other planet other than Dantooine. The next thing I plan on doing is restarting from before I was on Onderon (the last planet that I did), and replay that whole planet....but if anyone else has a fix...that'd be greatly appreciated. On a side note, I imagine that since there isn't a thousand "WTF, I can't get onto Dantooine at end game" threads, there are people out there that have gotten past my position?

First time I heard "HK" was in The Terminator. While in the parkade hiding from The Terminator, Kyle is talking to Sarah about life in the future. A lot of time is spent hiding from HKs. Sarah replies "HKs?" And Kyle replies with "Hunter Killers." And then goes on about how badass they are and stuff Don't know if James Cameron got it from somewhere else, but I wouldn't be too surprised if someone picked it up from here, even if it was through cryptomnesia.

I'm currently in my second year of CompSci at my local University and am loving it. Until recently, I never really considered the possibility of going for my Masters or PhD. However, anyone have any insight on how useful this might be? I think it might be interesting to go into grad school and whatnot, but if there was actually some additional benefits that would come with it outside of my own personal growth, then that might help push me in that direction. I guess the problem is that I don't really know what entails graduate school. I mean, I know I do "research," but what exactly does that mean? Or maybe I don't do "research." I dunno hehehe Anyone have any CompSci Graduate school experience?

Are people deleting posts or something? This thread is at the top as most recently replied to...but GoA is the most recent poster from days earlier?

Important word there.

How could you have several strongholds in Baldur's Gate 2? I know you can do the "stronghold qualifying missions" with any character, but how can you do the stronghold? As a Paladin, it was impossible for me to do the Fighter stronghold missions in the castle. Back to KOTOR 2, IIRC I believe they mentioned something along the lines of certain areas only being open on planets if certain conditions were met (like a level requirement, certain NPC, LS or DS, or event triggered). So it sounds like we'll have reasons to go back to certain planets.

True sequel. You don't need KOTOR 1 to play it, and KOTOR 2's story is significantly different from KOTOR 1s IMO. As has been said, identical engines does not mean it cannot be a sequel Baldur's Gate 2 is most definitely a sequel to Baldur's Gate.

200 hours? Wow....I don't know what to say. I did it in less than 100 and did every sidequest that wasn't class specific (i.e. the Strongholds). I was a Paladin though.....are other class strongholds more involved?

Why are threads like this one constantly at the top of the list with "new posts" when clearly, there are not any new posts? Is this a new bug that has come up since the message board update?

I would agree that the Manaan trial should have had endless hordes of level 20 guys (and possibly with damage resistance) coming at you to detain you. Realistically, I don't think it would be possible to get out of Manaan after you admit to killing the Sith for fun....but rather than just cutting to your execution, set up an impossible fight where you get knocked unconscious, captured, and executed. However, having said all that, you were likely already incapacitated in some form when you were on trial. They probably should make this endless horde come when you attempt to resist capture. It'll give the illusion of doing your own thing, but still limit the player down an easier to maintain path.

That's my intention. Depends on other confounding variables too. Half-Life 2 is probably gonna be released soon...so that should make me disappear for a while. Once the game comes out for X-Box, I'll likely try to avoid these forums as best I can. Although once the game comes out, I'll probably disappear for a long time....until NWN2 is on the horizon. Once KOTOR came out for PC I have only visited the forums a handful of times in the past year (you could probably even ask someone like Adria to verify....she's one of the ones I noticed a lot on Bioware's forums). Although I'm also involved in discussion in Gaming and RPG, so I'll probably still come back to check those out.

I actually agree. It doesn't make sense that it is possible to do EVERY sidequest. I know the game wants to make your choices more significant this time around, so I wouldn't be surprised to see some exclusiveness in the quests.

To be fair, I find the APA to be pretty liberal with "mental disorder."

To lie and be free is much wiser than to tell the truth and be sent to prison. In your deffinition, no one can be wise. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> ????? Depends on what you value. I would think many of the martyrs in history would like to disagree with you.

Only if the sidequests are mutually exclusive though (which I wouldn't necessarily disagree with).

I get the impression that HK-50 will be the first "boss" character you fight, and Peragus