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Hey, I recognized that it was the Baley.

The bulk of the cost for anything is usually labour. Given the 3 times longer development cycle that Bioware, a much more established and reputable company, had over Obsidian, a young upstart of admittedly experienced guys, I'd wager KOTOR 1 had more money directed towards it.

There was a space of 8 days between posts. In the high volume, go go world of the internets, that constitutes necroposting.

Meh, spiritual successor. I think what I meant was "It doesn't have to be Far Cry 2" but can still be a game in a similar environment, with similar setting and everything. Spiritual Successor or something. As for the engine, well, this one will have EA oompf behind it as well.

Hey! I've already posted that pic before!!! :sulks:

Doesn't have to be a sequel. Plus, engines are highly markettable.

Nah, you're just neglecting the others.

You tease.

Phillips = cool. I read a Dallas fan that listened to the game over the Internet comment on how he was surprised that he referred to the Dallas player's by name. I love Rod Phillips. I still remember his classic line that was used in ads, but I also heard it live. "OH MY WHAT A SAVE BY TOMMY SALO!!! THE FIRST ONE WAS PHENOMENAL, THE SECOND ONE WAS DIABOLICAL!!!"

No Dvorak, but Morrow played decently. He wasn't playing with what I expect to be Mike Modano and Bill Guerin though. I'd probably pick him for that alone. I liked Staios' game. He took care of business in his own end, and I noticed him pinching up for scoring opportunities on more than one occassion. Pisani, Torres, and Reasoner all played well together. Pisani and Torres came away with three points each to prove it :D Conklin got off to a weak start, although I don't blame the second goal on him as the Oilers team let a Dman pinch up uncontested right into the slot for Morrow to set him up from behind the net. Conklin never had a chance. A lot of rust in this game, as well as young players. I liked the Calgary game a bit more, and it seems as though there's an entire concourse down below reserved for Lower Bowl tickets. Punks get nice cushioned seating and a full bar, and get to watch the Oilers come out of the dressing room. Now I know what I'm missing HAHA. Although for the most part it WAS cool sitting that close, the fact that we were behind the penalty box made it difficult to see plays in the corner. Still, it was cool encouraging the guys as they came out of the penalty box. I would have heckled some Dallas players, but at the time it we were losing 3-0 I did feel that Rita played a much better game this time around however. It's going to be tough filling out those last few roster spots.

Vedder does play on a Seattle band though! :D

I see dead people.

To me though, I almost think that the long, good story RPGs also started with Baldur's Gate. Outside of games like Final Fantasy, I cannot remember many off the top of my head that were truly long, epic games.

I can't afford any beer. Spent all my money on the tickets hahaha I'll try to keep an eye on them for you.

Ryan Malone most likely. He played well in Pittsburgh last year, but he was a big fish in a very, very small pond.

I would agree. Length for length's sake is silly. Deus Ex was great because it IS a long game, but the story is coherent and it's not just filled with mindless filler. Everytime I realized that there was more to the story I got all giddy :D

I'm sure somewhere down, or I guess up, the line I'm related to Michael Schumacher. He's probably like my 256th cousing 14 times removed or something.

Vedder and Chris Cornell are probably my favourite male vocalists. Which probably isn't too strange because I find they have similar voices and singing styles. Maybe it's a Seattle thing? Once upon a time, I was of the mind, To lay your burden down. And leave you where you stood, You believed I could. You'd seen it done before. I could read your thoughts, And tell you what you saw. And never say a word. But now all that is gone. Overwith and done, Never to return. I can tell you why People why die alone I can tell you why The Shadow of the Sun. Staring at the loss, Looking for the cause And never really sure Nothing but a hole, To live without a soul And nothing to be learned. I can tell you why People go insane I can show you how You could do the same I can tell you why, The end will never come. I can tell you on The Shadow of the Sun. Shapes of every size, Move behind my eyes. Doors inside my head, Bolted from within. Every drop of flame, Lights a candle in, Memory of the one, Who lived inside my skin! I can tell you why People go insane I can show how You could do the same I can tell you why The end will never come I can tell you on The shadow of the sun. Shadow on the Sun! Shadow on the Sun! Shadow on the Sun! Shadow on the Sun! Shadow on the Sun! Shadow on the Sun! Shadow on the Sun! Shadow on the Sun! Sun! Sun!

Yeah, the open ended ones are the ones that take a while because you can literally get caught up doing other things. I will concede that there does seem to be less open ended games out there. Spore will likely cause me to lose hours and hours though. As for Ender, I was referring to all games, but perhaps a bit of focus on RPG as this is an RPGish discussion board. But I do remember people complaining because a game like Episode 3 was short, and my roommate made a comment about "There's no way he'd ever buy a game that only gave a few hours of gameplay," when I'm pretty sure there are plenty of action type games out there that do only offer a few hours of gameplay. Coming from the guy that determines the value of a game by the hour-to-dollar ratio?

Well, you never know how that third one will do. PSX came literally out of nowhere, and XBOX did surprisingly well. Would the console market become too complacent with just the two?

Heh, you could have manual control on combat, but on all but the slowest computers it became unweidly IMO. I just had it auto attack with my Two-Handed Sword of d00m! Ultima VII is still one of my all time favourite games, of any genre.

I've seen people complain that games are getting shorter, often citing such epics as Baldur's Gate 2 or Final Fantasy 7 has the apex. We all remember the 50+ hours we spent on games like this (Baldur's Gate 2 truly was a huge game length wise). But I was wondering, were games like that more the exception than the norm? Even for RPG games? Despite knowing everything about the games, there's an asymptotic lower bound for the length of time to fully play a game like FF7 or BG that is still quite long. Even though I've played BG2 in it's entirety twice, I'm betting it would still take me around 40 hours or so to beat the game; it's just that long. However, a game like Fallout really isn't that long at all. Granted, I'm talking from hindsight where I know most about the game, but I can literally beat Fallout 1 in pretty much a single sitting (a long one, but still). Certainly a weekend. Fallout 2 is a little bit longer, but still nothing like Baldur's Gate 2. The Final Fantasy games have always been rather lengthy, but KOTOR can be beaten by me in a weekend too. Ultima 7 is certainly a game that can occupy tons of time if you just goof around, but I recently replayed the game and beat it within a weekend as well. But I would never dream of trying to play Baldur's Gate 2 within the span of a weekend, unless I felt sleep was optional. But the only games I've seen with really any length are RPG games (and adventure games too I suppose, but those are pretty rare today). I know people complained because Max Payne 2 was only a few hours long, and there were those disappointed with the length of Metal Gear Solid. Deus Ex was a long game (much to my joy), but System Shock didn't strike me as an overly long game. However, when I look back, I don't consider many of the older games to be really that long. I have a friend that can beat Contra in like 10 minutes. And I remember back in the day claiming that we were "elite" gamers if we could "wrap" a game without dying. But I don't really expect them to be long, given that they couldn't save their games or anything of that like. The only games where I've truly lost hours in were the more open ended games, without an actual plot (or at least a plot that had to be followed). This would include pretty much strategy games, generally TBS (Civ, SMAC, SimCity, etc.). An individual game may not last very long, but the randomness of said games were what stretched out the game time. Sports game could also be tossed in there as well. But I can't think of too many games with stories that really occupied for much longer than most games today. So are games really getting shorter? Or do we just remember the huge epic adventures of Baldur's Gate and Final Fantasy, and compare game length to them? Discuss.

Aren't you always?

Powerglove and Super Scope 6 for teh win!!!!!! Robo? I don't think that was ever intended to succeed, but it's marketting did seem to work out well for Nintendo, given how much ppl seemed to hate video games at that time.

Well, if Kovalchuk was back, I'd probably say pick Savard. But he's an unknown.