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He's done alright penalty wise with the Oilers. Funny...he was being criticized because he went the first few games without getting a single penalty.

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He sees Ben in the distance and follows him then as he's reaching out for him Ben fades away and Han is there. At least thats how it is on the DVD It could be a coincidence but I dont think so. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Grasping at straws IMO.

Because if my family are with me I'd rather notice something than not notice it. I'm pretty happy that we don't carry guns as a rule over here though. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> It's still a bad thing. The fact that you have to be worried because of your family's well being is always bad. The only "good" thing would be if the world were in such a way that you wouldn't feel compelled to look at them.

DOn't forget about your family missing in the Carribean though!

Clearly you were surprised, as you seemed to think that since I "never" play games until patch, I would not be informed. And the reason that you would still be informed, despite claiming to never play PC games anymore, was because you had friends that still played them You're the one that referred to it as jumping through hoops. You make this big deal about how it's an insane inconvenience to you. I could probably do it in my sleep. And the fact that I can explain to computer illiterate people how to patch their game (as was the case with my friend and NHL 06...well...he actually figured it out by clicking on the...<gasp>...."update button"), people are really overstating the complexity of the issue. Especially for someone that claims to have as much experience as you do. Then that's your failure as a person. To be honest I have no beef with you being upset as being a bit burned. Obviously you have PC gaming experience, and if this is what pushed you over the edge, then I think you were just looking for an excuse to get out. Furthermore, given your already beefy gaming budget, it should be pretty much impossible for you to have to get every game immediately upon release anyways. I don't think you're being disloyal. I think you're being misrepresenting, trollish, and annoying. You have come across as "patch = broken, no matter what lalalalala I'm not listening" simply because a game didn't work out of the box. You've severed yourself from a hobby that I'm assuming interested you before, for a petty reason. I think you're being shallow, as well as judgemental when people talk about the issue. The ironic thing is that in most threads, I do recognize PC gaming's place among console users, and even use the patching and price arguments against it. But your stance is way to extreme and absolute. Quite frankly, you sound like someone complaining because he didn't get his way. So much so that he rationalizes a complete boycott of a hobby he used to enjoy. You pass judgement on people, going so far as to make inferences about why they continue to purchase such games. The only reason why I'm arguing to such lengths is because the impression you are casting about the PC gaming situation is actually wrong. It sounds to me like you have to give yourself some sort of justification for not actually playing the games. All you had to do was say "It doesn't have the games I like to play." Because IMO if it did still have games you wanted to play, you'd still play them. On a side note, I think you should read up on Civ4 a bit more. I suppose it's not to fundamentally different, in that there's civilizations, technology, and you build stuff.

Meh, if you were following other threads it'd make sense.

How can you think that that would be a good thing?

Yes they are good.

Sacred was the name of the game. And as for Vampire...look what happened to the company that made them. Do I think you had fun with those two games? No. But I do think you're a tool if those two games is what caused you to completely sever your contacts with the platform. Perhaps a bit more patience with that platform's releases would have served you better. How many people had fun playing Angel of Darkness?

Because I only totally gave up PC gaming after Vampire , at least thats the last thing I bought anyway. Plus I've still got friends who duitifully patch stuff so I'm pretty current at least on the software side. Oh I see. And you're the only one that has access to these "friends?" Seriously, did you honestly post this thinking that it wouldn't apply to me as well? In any case, I'm the one that still plays the PC games. You're just disenfranchised because you bought a game and it struggled out of the box. Hope you didn't buy the GameCube version of Warrior Within. At least the XBOX version could be patched. I have the technical aptitude for patching to be a non-issue. Sorry if you never really "got it." I also have the patience, as waiting 5 minutes for a download typically isn't skin off my back. I usually just frequent the forums until it is done. Fortunately, with auto-updaters, my computer illiterate friends can easily patch their games now too.

I enjoyed the remake (as well as the original). Nothing like having a fleet train of treasure galleons hauling your loot behind you. When you get a chance, strike at Henry Morgan! :D

I was being facetious.

Well, we won gold with Women's Hockey. BUt I guess you won a medal there too.

Which would make them bad (or something) right? I mean, if they can't get it right in one shot...

The "bugfree" argument IMO is just a rationalization for the decision you have made. You clearly have a ton of time on your hands for large parts of the year. Surely you aren't that impatient that patching the game (while doing something else even) is a hideious inconvenience. Especially given that many games have auto-updaters now that do all the work for you.

*sigh* Apparently you took my post waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay to literally. I don't always wait for a patch (I figured this was obvious since I did mention that I bought Half-Life 2 the day it came out). Especially seeing as the game might not actually need one. Plus, I do get games as gifts at times. For instance, I didn't buy Boiling Point because I heard that the game was particularly unstable. However, after its most recent patches, I'm starting to think that it's really the game that the next GTA should have been. Half-Life 2, as I mentioned earlier, I bought right when it came out. I only wait if I'm uncertain about a game. The odd time I do get burned, but I don't burn my bridges and if a patch comes out, will apply it. At the same time, you wouldn't know either. So I guess we're both equally unqualified to make the distinction. THe only difference is that I play PC games, whereas you don't. If it no longer affects you, then why do you buy 500 GB HDs, or even take part in a discussion about patching? If anything, it's just an admission to being out of touch with the PC gaming market. I'd much rather play a game I enjoy. I'm not going to deny myself an excellent game experience because a game needed a patch.

Obi-Wan doesn't lead Luke to Han Solo. Han finds him. All Obi-Wan does is tell him to go to Dagobah.

Hehe, I'll admit I enjoyed winning Gold over the US in 2002

I also suspect that the people that do encounter gamebreaking bugs are typically of the vocal minority.

I'd rather they complain that their goalie let in a goofy goal. Though as an Oiler fan that sucked for me because it pretty much ended Salo's career.

Bush is not an idiot. He is a heartless, corrupted warmongerererer. I would not be surprised to see him keep power by force once his term is up. And then we will have WWIII. (w00t) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Bush is an idiot. His cabinet pulls the strings, not him. He's just a figurehead who was chosen specifically for his idiocy. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> And who pulls the strings of his cabinet? The Saudis. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Sounds like someone takes Michael Moore a bit too seriously.

I'm hoping against the Swedes...in spite of Mkreku.

The original, or the remake?

The beef I have is that when you state it like this, you give the impression that games not working directly out of the box is actually the norm. Working being the "finishable" definition that you provided earlier. While you may consider it "supporting lazy programming" my purchase of the Hearts of Iron 2 game was more "supporting a small, independent developer that is still a bit wet behind the ears, that makes fascinating games that I can waste hours and hours of my life playing." Fortunately, every new game that I have played of theirs has been more and more stable upon release. There's still issues, but the game is a ton of fun. I eagerly anticipate their "standalone expansion" for it...Doomsday.