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Sturm Brightblade FTW!!! But yeah, who the hell is Durga?

Ooo... Mandalorian Total War *drool*

Look, JADEN KORR defeated

Aye, SW is totally black & white series. period

K2 is worst part of it with Exile. Gah, I'm starting to hate him/her... Getting his/her ass kicked by few gizkas in k3 would be HILARIOUS

So it is all about teh crystalz? I never said that they don't raise their cababilities. But they aren't the main points that makes characters powerful. They just add boost to their powers. If you keep insisting that "Luke is powerfulz becuz teh crystal" fine, I'm using this way too: Mace Windu is so powerful because of his crystal. Same thing with Exile's personal cystal. You see, Kaiburr crystal is same fricking crystal in books and k2. I just added gameplay stats because that would prove that Exile's personal crystal is even more powerful than Luke's kaiburr. Even if we forget the stats, personal crystal is most powerful in whole game. So that would mean that Exile is also so powerful because of his personal crystal... Since it is stronger than Kaiburr, it buffs Exile even more than kaiburr buffs Luke. So it is the crystal that makes Exile so powerful. without his pretty little pet crystal he is sooooo weak.... "Liea and Luke are the daughters and sons of the chosen one. They don't need much training and she was trained well from Luke. They TOGETHER DEFEATED Palpatine." Did I say otherwise? "Good for him. Other characters could of done the same and can also do so against battle droids." Umm...What is good for him? "Yoda was not powerful enough to master vapaad which is on it's own proof that Mace is better at lightsaber dueling" Maybe Yoda didn't need Vaapad, after all. He was powerful enough all ready. Sorry but it is officially stated that Palpatine acted his lost to Windu. He could've killed Mace, but why? What he ultimately wanted during that confrontation was that Anakin turned to DS. It worked. Then Palpy just blasted Mace out of the fricking office. Mace had difficulties as he shielded himself against Palpatines lightning. He managed to "win" the struggle and "melted" Palpatine's face. (In truth Palpy just revealed his true form) As you can see from "powerrrrrrr, unlimitedddd poweeeerrrrr" (one of the most lol moments in ep3 ) he could've blasted Mace with lightning too long to Mace stand against. Did you notice that Mace stroke lightsaber from Palpy just few seconds before Anakin entered into building? In original script Anakin was ment to have a lightsaber duel with Windu. And Anakin would've killed him then. "Every form has weaknesses and it is near impossible to take them out. He still wouldn't ever have the speed or power with those three forms combined either to deal with the vapaad master and creater." How do you know? Palpy could've defeated Vaapad with his lightning. I never said that Luke's combination is perfect, it is impossible to have perfect style of lightsaber fighting. But still, it is seen again and again his whole time increasing powers. Remember he had nearly no training in lightsaber combat. That shows that he has great amount of natural talent to lightsaber fightning. "Yes but just be observing in battle the Exile could learn this form from Mace Windu. He has proved in time and time again STORYWISE in the game WHILE THE FIGHT IS GOING ON." *cough cough* Kreia *cough cough* Their force bond *cough cough* Just few pages away back. "Good for him. Mace could of done the same. Mace could make his blade move so vast it would become invisible to the human eye and relfect Lukes own power. Mace could detect the weakness with shatterpoint inside Luke and feed upon it. He would win in a lightsaber fight. Mace defeated Palptine who could kill hundreds of jedi on his own." Answered all ready. "That great. Mace could most likley relfect it back at him with vapaad." Umm...what? "Good for him. Doesn't make him all powerful." No one is allpowerful, though you seem to trying to make Exile to that....

Holy Crispy Cr*p, we WON it! :lol: Hmm... I wonder if we could play icehockey in hell too "

The lightsaber crystal increase Jedis power for one and the crystal do MATTER A LOT. NOWHERE was it mentioned that Luke drops the weaknesses of the forms. You made that up. Also it comes NOWHERE NEAR the pwoer of vapaad. Vapaad is invisible to the human eye in terms of speed and can draw power from the darkside. It allows darksided force powers and rage to make your power way stronger. Plus the super conducting loop will allow him to defeat almsot any foe. If not for Anakin Palaptines sorry little ass would of been messed up and decimated by Mace. Mace renewed his trust in Anakin. NOTHING Lukes lightsaber form can do will even come close to vapaad. It wasn't much different from other lightsaber forms if you watch. Only his mastery of the force allowed him to use it so well at the end BUT he was drawing power from other Jedi in that battle anyway, Electric judegemnt would jsut be relfected back from Mace Windus lightsaber. Also electric judegement is LESS powerful than force lighting as mentioned. It is the lightside version of it. You always exagerate things to be on your side of the debate when their not. Luke ONLY beat Palaptine WITH LIEAS help. If it wasa fight between Palpatine and Mace WITHOUT Anakin....well we all get the picture. Mace would of won. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Emerald Lightning aka electric judgement is most powerful force power, I say sorry, so I do. " So, Vaapad is all powerful neat-o-killing

So does all the EU...

What are subraces for halflings, or is there any? I really want to know if there is any. I don't know single subrace for halflings...There is only halflings. Gold halflings, forest halflings?

I didn't mean storywise. I never got LS ending even if I killed only one master. Bug, glitch etc. IMO

Well, at least dextertity adds your defense

Well, Spartans were on the attack nearly all the times Rebels as communists? Nah. But yeah, otherwise Vietcong thing is right. Though I don't see reason in searching these things from real world. I mean, my name consists 19 letters, so I could say that I'm part of DT universe (19 is most important number in DT )

Exactly. Read my full answer to this in most powerful jedi topic

"As for Lukes power lvl debate........ Lukes power increased becuase he found the kaibur crystal which was said it could increase ones force power one THOUSAND fold. But it is CLEARLY stated in another book that Mace Windus purple lightsaber crystal is the rarest and most powerful crystal and it was believed by the jedi that only the most powerful could wield it so that alone proves that Luke is not ALL POWERFUL AND THE MOST POWERFUL EVER. The Exile can also find the same crystal as luke but storywise it would produce different effects. Not only that but many people claim that since he used electric judgement he is the most powerful but another has mastered that ability as well. Plo coon has mastered it. Mace Windu can used MANY darkside powers that most people don't even know about." Right... It is just fricking crystal, so what that i is powerful? This isn't about crystals... Only most powerful Jedi could wield it? Luke haven't even been born then...And many powerful jedis has already died furing that time... The learning speed... "However, Luke's particular form of lightsaber combat may in the end be something entirely new, with traces of Form III, Form IV and Form V mixed together with his own techniques. It is doubtful that Kenobi and Yoda had time to actually teach him the finer points of the combat Forms. Just like most other things about being a Jedi Knight, Luke would probably have to figure out whole new fighting styles to replace the ones lost during the Great Jedi Purge. It is also probable that the Jensaarai would have passed on knowledge of the lightsaber forms of the Old Jedi Order as their founders were former Jedi Knights and Padawans." So, Luke is great and masterful dueler. He doesn't use one form, he combines them, taking strenghts of them and leaving their weaknesses. That is true mastering of swormanship. We have seen over and over again his ever greatening skills... It looks like he might even being creating new form... Propably greater than Vaapadu. And for learning speed itself...The beginning part of quote: Luke Skywalker's use of Form V is probably as much instinctive as trained. On Bespin, Luke revealed that he was an extraordinarily gifted duelist after only one brief session with Obi-Wan Kenobi and a short time of study with Yoda. After that fateful duel, Luke studied some lightsaber skills from Kenobi's journal and greatly advanced his abilities. Without a Master, it was Luke's unparalleled aptitude which contributed in the impossible advancement of his skills. Onboard the second Death Star, Luke mirrored Darth Vader's own Form V technique and responded with his own furious demonstration of Form V's raw power. Observing swordsmen such as Palpatine might be astonished at such instantaneous learning in a lightsaber duel. Finally, Luke was able to duel Vader on an even footing, and defeated the experienced Dark Lord. "Sith Muarader rage - He can used this ability and when it overlaoded he can put his lightsaber in the ground causeing a massive electrical attack that can injury and even kill foes. Vader has also mastered this ability." Hmm...That doesn't fare against electric judgement... "Vapaad - The most powerful lightsaber form ever by far allows to feed off the darksides pwoer and make lightsaber strieks so fast they can be invisible to the human eye. It has many special abilitites including reflecting others pwoers back at them. It was stated that he used Palpatiens own rage and hatred and used it has his own wepaon in the fight. He relfected it back much like a blast bolt. He did the same with the lighting. " It wasn't quicker than eye during fight against Palpy... And again, each from has their weaknesses. With Vaapadu you may not be able to hold darkside back. And then you would enter into terrible rage. If you manage to hold against it long enough opponent with vaapadu would exhaust him/herself, and be easy to kill after that. And combination of other forms really could kick Vaapadu too. And lets not forget that even with Vaapadu Mace wasn't able to beat Sidious. He acts his lost and clearly shows after Ani's turning that he could've pwned him. For example, "Power. Unlimited power". Windu even states that there was two greater lightsaber user in order. Yoda and...hmm...Dooku, even though he was not jedi anymore during ep. II and III. (personally I thought that Mace and Dooku were quite equal, but that is just my opinion) Yoda is equal or little bit weaker than Palpatine, but better fighter/force user than Mace. and Luke manages to beat Palpy later on EU in lightsaber fight. Neither Yoda or Mace couldn't do it... "Shatterpoint - Mace Windu can predict the furture or sense things very good with this. He can find an enemys shatterpoint or weakness and feed upon it." FEED? He isn't Nihilus. And he still couldn't defeat Palpatine... Force crush? Lol, that would mean that Grievous organic remnants had more hit pointsl than most enemies in k2. Obi just shots them with a blaster and boom. He propably used grip during battle of Coruscant.

" for a console action-based role-playing game. " Sounds like Diablo in Xbox 360

And I'm Scrooge McDuck. Hmm... Mandalorians= Spartan warriors, not army of Third Reich Yanks came to war only because they got attacked at Pearl Harbor, and Japan was part of axis alliance.

TSLRP as it is stated in M4-78 team's website

Yeah, that shouldn't be possible... Killing Jedi Masters and have a LS ending.

RTS would pwnage Battlefront III: The Mandy Wars? Argh!

I won't torment anyone! I just like to debate on these things. But hyeah, this is getting pointless....Maybe I should stop too...After few counterposts ^_^

Cheers Nomi!

Lol, OPG is argumenting about same thing in two topics Let's continue this pointless debate in which co. would win topic.

Whiney battle of all time. Carth vs. Raiden