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I'm 24! And my apartment only has a shower!

Woke up this morning seemingly without the ability to move my neck.

Sorry, not everyone is into S&M. Hahahahaha. If that makes you think it's related to S&M then someone really hasn't earned that sandwich.

I agree with Pidesco, it was refreshing to see a movie end with the end of the world.

I would love to join since I already have some money set aside but I have to wait for that damned paypal support.

Not having the charisma or a Reagan or Clinton is a severe understatement. Even Bush had a human element (even if that was the same human element primates have) - this guy is a robot, even his facial movements look artificial. I haven't followed the actual elections since the only thing Obama proved was that who the president is doesn't matter jack ****, the opposite party will block anything the president tries to do anyway - that means that as a foreigner, whoever the president is at this point affects me in no way whatsoever. But from what I've seen of Romney, it's that he is a ridiculous excuse for a politician and any party that chooses such a charisma black hole as him as a figurehead is on the way out.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't they hire people to go to the new studios? I'm unsure of the specifics because I generally don't follow Bio, but hiring to fire seems like bad practice.

I agree with Volly, if BioWare was costing EA so much they wouldn't be going out of their way to make new Bio Studios.

Both me and my girlfriend have been sick with the flu for a couple of days now and we're getting really sick of it.

Aw, why did you copy over your hilarious tale of male pattern baldness?

Fair enough, despite my annoyance at Morgoth (it kills me that his trolling gets to me and it kills me even more that I keep pressing the friggin' "View it anyway?" button next to "This post is hidden because you have chosen to ignore posts by Morgoth.") I don't actually hate anyone for liking this movie. I like a fair share of bad movies. But this movie is really bad, and it does annoy me when people pretend it isn't. Something funny I found regarding "unanswered questions" in the film. Remember when they the Engineers were killed by their goop turning against them around 2000 years ago? Here's what Ridley Scott told Movies.com about that: So Ridley has answered the final open question - why do the engineers want us dead? Because we killed Space Jesus. EDIT: Anyway, I've said all I can about how dumb this movie is. I'm going to ignore it's existence from now on, because the only thing I can get from this now is this: To change the subject: I watched Cabin in the Woods, which was surprisingly clever and funny, although I did feel it was a bit too proud of how clever it was. It almost seemed arrogant that it could toy with expectations so well. I don't think it'd hold up on a second viewing because it relies on surprises. Also, the ending was kinda dumb, although I enjoyed that it ended with Well worth watching once, though.

Thanks for making me your strawman because I take special effects into consideration when discussing this 130 million dollar bomb, but since you brought it up, yes, there is nothing to this movie but special effects. Which means it's worse when they turn out to be on the level of a Sy Fy Original. A budget like that means you rise above the level of early Buffy episode special effects, but that's far from the biggest problem with this movie. As for the AvP comparison - the dumbest scientists on earth find similar markings all over the world* and use these as a guide to go to a hostile, alien built environment funded by a dying Mr Weyland who tags along in hopes of finding immortality. Sound familiar? There is generalizing plots to make it sound like a ripoff, and there is simply ripoff plots. Yes, I'm saying that not only is AvP better than Prometheus, Prometheus goes out of it's way to rip it off despite Ridley Scott publicly denouncing the AvP franchise. And the markings thing? Revenge of the Fallen. There you go. These are the films with comparable plots to Prometheus, to the point that AvP had almost the same plot. There's more than a little hero worship going on if you truly think this is a good film. It's going to take a lot more for an intelligent person to accept a movie that flat out states "Darwin was wrong" and then fails to back it up with anything other than "we can make this disembodied head twitch and explode with gooey special effects". Since you're trolling me to come out and say it anyway, this movie is dumb and you're dumb for liking it. It is truly one of the worst films ever made and Ridley Scott should be ashamed of making it and you should be ashamed of yourself for liking it. Actually I'm pretty sure that it isn't Earth. The earth people believe that the Engineers created them, that the Engineers are - in effect God. But they also believe that they left the maps so that they could find them in a positive way. One thing the film does is tend to show that the assumptions the Earth people make - that they're gods, that they'll make man immortal, that they'll help us, that maps will help them find the exit - are wrong. So why not that they created us? Or created the Xenomorphs? The movie is ambiguous on the point but the evidence is that either the Engineers left the map to warn them away or left the map as a lure so they could destroy those who had the ability to find and trip the trap. At least that's how I took it. EDIT - to me then, the opening is a dodge; it makes the audience think along the lines of the Earth people until mounting evidence is supposed to make you rethink the position. I'm going to admit that this idea sounds a lot more intriguing than what's presented in the movie, but I can't give the writers enough credit to think an epileptic tree such as this could be correct. We are talking about a script that had a random zombie attack in the middle of the movie that had no purpose in the film and is never adressed again. EDIT: Alternatively, we are talking about a script that allowed this travesty of a scene to happen:

Fair enough. You obviously weren't arguing with me in this thread when you were, then. Glad you admit you're just trolling. On the other hand, I stand by the opinion that even the abysmal AvP Requiem was better than Prometheus. Whereas AvP was groan-inducing, Prometheus was so over the top bad that all I could do was laugh at it. For having over four times the budget, damn straight that makes it a worse movie. I know low budget special effects people who would quit if they ever made anything as bad as mutated Fifield. At least AvP could only kill a franchise, not an entire genre.

If you can't have a discussion without continuously trying to undermine the other person instead of actually discussing the subject (yes, I did notice all your oh so subtle "but you enjoyed Avatar" digs) then maybe you should learn to be able to deal with differing opinions. I can enjoy well made movies, I can even enjoy movies that have weaknesses. Prometheus is all weakness with no strengths. It has no redeeming features and quite probably destroyed the chances of smart sci-fi movies getting picked up by Studios any time soon. It is both as a movie and by consequences the worst thing to happen to sci-fi in the last fourty years and defending it is an insult to anybody who enjoys a good science fiction movie.

Just because it doesn't say "Earth" on the title card doesn't mean it's not perfectly spelled out by the movie. Counting that as "mystery" is just reading more into it because you don't want to accept how badly this movie treats it. It's still being shoved down your throat, as much as you try to suppress that gag reflex of yours.

To have a mystery you have to set up the pieces. You can't have a character say "Jack the Ripper" in your victorian London movie and then claim it has mystery because it references something unknown. This movie shoves facts down your throat which should have been mysteries (the first scene in the film is "Hi I'm an Alien and I'm making you humans"), and then ignores the mysteries set up by this. The problem here is that this movie DOESN'T allow you to use your imagination because it either flat out tells you everything or doesn't give you any hints or puzzle pieces for a mystery to take form. There is a differences between leaving things open and using ambiguity as an excuse not to deal with the gaping plot holes in your script. When the movies done, the interesting mysteries are solved and it doesn't deal with any of them. There is no mystery, nothing is left open (even the question of "why" concerning the Engineers' actions is already answered due to Holloway and David's exchange on why humanity made Androids) and it doesn't deal with any of the developments it has. To say you like this because of the mystery makes me think you were the one not paying attention. What I'm saying is not that I want everything in a neatly wrapped up package, what I want is for things that happen to matter. Here, everything is presented as fact and then the film moves on to something else in an equally blunt manner without adressing anything about it. A character has a freaking caesarian section and the only aftermath she presents is the occassional limp. It doesn't get any more "oh it's just about our perfect plot, not any real human implications". It's designed to give the audience everything in the most simple and boring way possible.

Yeah, and Stephen Summers Mummy movies deal with the psychological horror of being in a state of undeath because I read that into it with my imagination. That's ridiculous and you know it. A movie either deals with something or it doesn't. If it deals with it vaguely, fine, then it's saying "use your imagination, have fun with it". This movie doesn't deal with it at all. A throwaway line is not intelligent treatment of a subject.

I agree, but I choose to believe that this was the birth of the proto-Xenomorph, because why else is the entire climax leading up to that, from the creation of proto-Facehugger to putting the antagonist in the right place to get a face full of his alien Wing Wong? If the Xenomorph was pre-this, what was the entire point of the end of the movie? It spends far too much time getting the pieces into place for that reveal.

If Eternity reflects the thematic of this game accurately I'm assuming there will be some undead to adress the question of how far you would go for eternal life. I don't have a problem with undead myself, and I don't think anyone else does. The undead, by concept, aren't a bad thing, it's just that they're usually used badly or in a cliche manner. (Also, none of these answers accurately reflect that opinion so I'm going to refrain from answering it.)

Okay, explain to me how Prometheus dealt at all with how the knowledge of being created by an Alien race or knowledge of what purpose we were created for would impact the human race? Other than Peter Weyland's idiot ball moment of figuring that these Aliens, of which they've just found a dozen corpses, have unlocked the secrets to immortality?

There is a difference between remaining vague and not adressing it at all. This film asks the question and then ignores the hell out of it. A smart movie would have dealt with implications, theories, asked more questions. This movie confirmed the Engineers as our creators in one breath and routinely ignored everything about it. What should be the cornerstone of the movie is essentially only mentioned in passing between bad makeup or CG monster attacks.

The theme and general plot is why I wanted to like the movie, but it dealt with it dumbly. The whole "aliens seeded life on earth" concept has always fascinated me. However, this movie did nothing with the concept. It confirmed it, proceeded to say "these Engineers want to undo that creation", and never adressed anything else about it. The clash between faith and fact was also adressed with a single dialogue scene and never referred to again. "That is what I choose to believe" indeed. I feel this movie wanted to a billions things and ended up not doing any of them. As is, everything in it is of absolutely no consequence. I am aware it wasn't trying to be horror, but being horror isn't a prerequisite to having any semblance of suspense or atmosphere. I also wish they hadn't shown the birth of that proto Xenomorph, because while the common theory was already that Xenomorphs were a genetically engineered weapon because they were perfect killing machines. This movie simultaneously confirms and undermines that concept - because now it's the perfect killing machine due to a set of coincidental contaminations and inseminations. It's so contrived now that it makes no sense anymore, they are the product of engineering but they are the perfect weapon by coincidence?

I don't get how you can defend it. Everything about it was frankly insulting, and I'm saying this after my expectations were already significantly lowered by extremely poor word of mouth. There was no suspense or atmosphere, no pacing, no interesting characters or arcs. Within the first ten minutes I already knew exactly who was going to die and in what order. The design work was laughable, the special effects cartoonish. When side characters make a heroic sacrifice, the only thing I could think are "I only even know one of these guys, who are these people?". Everything, every moment, every character, every twist is decidedly meaningless. Every single moment is dumb, every character is holding the idiot ball at all times - even worse, the only character with a semblance of intelligence is the one we're ostensibly supposed to hate. The geologist who had machines mapping out the place gets lost. The biologist starts playing peekaboo with an alien cobra. I was rooting for these people to die. The antagonist looks like Voldemort. The main character who is established as being sterile gets that turned around - gosh, what a unique twist. It's not like every single movie with a sterile character ever has had something like this happen. It is, in fact, the only reason a character in a movie is ever sterile. With the exception of the expertly acted character of David (acted, not written, as his part in the movie is relegated to nothing other than being the curious 9 year old who has to touch everything like an idiot), nothing about this movie is even good enough to justify it's existence. I'd have preferred it if this movie had never been made. It would have at least not removed the mystique from the Xenomorph character by giving it the most contrived and dumb origin story ever. MST3K has reviewed better movies than this. If anything, this movie is an argument for why it's a good thing Ridley Scott stopped making Sci-Fi movies. I really WANTED to like this movie, because it's been a long time since we had a good sci-fi movie, but now I'm just angry it exists because it caused At The Mountains of Madness to be shut down and all we get is this dreck. EDIT: I do want to specify that I do feel they were trying something new, and ambition is not a bad thing. But in this particular case, I feel they failed on every level about as spectacularely as it is possible to fail.

A cult following is a group of fans who are highly dedicated to a specific area of culture. A film, book, musical artist, television series, or video game, among other things, will be said to have a cult following when it has a small but very passionate fan base. It's a ridiculous and useless term because anything that has a handful of fans applies, but it's used correctly. Even if misused in the way you intend, it would still be accurate - this forum alone displays enormous cultlike dedication to the game and it has displayed incredible longevity for a game - more successful games have been wiped off the map but this is still being played regularely by many people. EDIT: Nevermind, I just realized who I'm talking to. Bye, this thread. Sorry for contributing to your eventual Volourn Derailment.

I like how Greg's blog essentially ends on "now I'm going to get extremely drunk for forever".