Volourn

Sacred is a better version of Diablo. The horses ALONE make the game worthwhile! Not the greatets game ever - and certainly not a RPG like a BG or PST or FO; but fun. :cool:

WTF? HE bought a MMORPG? I wouldn't even go that far... And, a SW one at that. <>

"I the effort to De-Viscerify myself I decided to become more open minded with gaming and got myself an X-Box. Got my hands on Jade Empire LE, gotta love places that overstock "Limited Editions" of games." And, people claim that BIO's success is solely based on licensed products. You are like the 5th person minimum (including myself) who went out and found a way to finaggle a x-box for the express person to play JE. I look forward *shudder* to your comments - both positve and negative. Hope, I didn't spoil ya too much if you read my thread. If I did, you better not whine how 'obviousl' the twists were since you knew before hand. LOL Have fun. Or not. :cool: P.S. As for the LE, I think somoen forgot to mention to BIo that the LE wasn't a bonus for preordering the game; but was basiclaly first come first serve type of deal. Ha.

"Do the different "classes" make much difference in game play? I only played as that big hulking guy." Kalfear, I think you missed his point. GOA, the different models don't make a difference (other than male vs. female) as they are just character models. They don't effect the game at all as you can change the stat all you want just like any RPG. Think of the differently named characters as sample characters like the HOTU prepackaged characters. "PS: Volo, I was refering to character appearence." Ah. Ok. That is obviously, and factually true, then.

FF7, and FF10 are nowhere nar as good as JE. FF8 is as good, and in some ways better; but then again it's not a RPG. Or at least not the same type of RPG. Afterall, it lacks the fundament aspect of being able to play your character in multiple ways. That's why I prefer JE over FF8 even though I LOVE FF8 so I'm not gonna bash it to make JE look good. As for the whole JE = China. Sadly, that's plain wrong. The Jade Empire is Jade Empire. Does it share some (or even a lot of) similarities of China? Sure; but it's not China. No more than Faerun = Medival Europe.

I agree with Kalfear's post above except: "no customization" Unless you mean strictly what your character is wearing; I'd have to disagree with you. There's quite a bet of customization in the game. And, definitely more than 'no'.

The LA weren't after the town nor were they attacking it. "Those two masters just play there every year, they dont live there and the gang is a gang. The ogre is from a nearby farm." Still a part of the town. Perhaps you should ask why the OP Master wasn't getting involve with that? Hmm.. "Another thing is the town is supposed to be under the emperor protection and so it sould rely on the empire military for defence." This would be a legit if the LA were attacking the town. The LA were helping the Emperor. that's their job. You are giving reason why an OP would help the town; not a CF.

I think we all cna agree that there are alwayus ways to twink and/or improve the system... It's not like they had unlimited time to add every single way of doing everything possible. There is a CF rational for opening it. This is undisuptable.

"Come on, Lotus Assassins are trained soldiers as Tien's Landing population is most of fishermen, dockworkers and merchents." Then the townsfolk should learn how to fight. Afterall, Kung Fu Skewls seem to be pretty common in the Jade Empire. Plus, the town had its share of Kung Fu experts. In factm they had access to two masters at lkeast of the amrtial arts craft./ Not to mention the gang, the ogre amongst others. They were all just too lazy. "Ahhh but by closeing it you send a clear message to their masters as well that you do not fear them. Thats definately something a CF would do! Remember, Smileing mountain said "the REASON" for the act is what dictates op or cf. a op would close it to help the villagers a cf would close it to insult his enemies!" True; but a CF might also close it access the powerful gem, to gain the profit from the merchant, or to tough up the citizens into soem sort of action to save themselves. I think we all cna agree that there are alwayus ways to twink and/or improve the system... It's not like they had unlimited time to add every single way of doing everything possible.

And, possible spoilers. Argh.

Eh. They're still long too long, imo. I shouldn't be able to read a good portion of the manual while waiting for it to load or worse even surf a couple of net pages.. :D

"Never thought of it before but closeing the dam just to piss off the Lotus Assassins also more then enough reason to do it. By closing it you are PROVING your stronger then they are!" Um... You do that by opening it anyways since you have to deal with them one wya or the other to reach it. Opening or closing the dam doesn't effect that. "LOL, trust me when I say Lotus Assassins have a HUGE HUGE Advantage over normal townsfolks." Yeah; but they earned that advanatge through their hard work and training while the townsfolk sit around all day and whine about how much life sucks in Tien's Landing and poor little them and the poor little flood.

Um. Me. I did. He was obviously responding to me. "

Well.. I agree ins ome ways. However, since it was your PC doing all the fighting through the torunament why should your PC step down and 'look' weak by not completing the tournament on your own? I think in thats cenario, there should be OP/CF points awarded... I alreayd gave you two examples of where CF is done very well in the game...

"OMG! I must die!" - the protagonist from PST." Still much deeper than the KOTOR2 quote. Once again, you prove that KOTOR2 isn't deep yet PST is. Thank you.

"as pointed out before the Arena is anoying because every single fight requires moving areas twice." Aye. Very annoying.

This threaD isn't supposed to be about me. It's about KOTOR2 not being as mature or deep as silly people seem to think. "OMG! The force must die!" - BBG from KOTOR2

CF is about self reliance; but as warned early in the game; you go toof ar CF you cna eaisly fall into the darkside and take it to the extreme. Just like taking OP to the extreme can lead to the darkside. Even the final villain can, in some ways, be considered OP.

Nope. SPOILER read the other thread. LOL p.s. Too many JE threads to follow. LOL <_<

Yeah, paying $8 for 2 hours is money better spent. Besides, JE was a longer game than KOTOR. KOOTOR was just 2 games in 1 - the RPG and Inventory Matrix. "

The plot thickens.

"You have no choices." You didn't play the game. Kalfear at leats knows what he's talking about even as I disagree with him I cna see he played the game. If you had played the game; you'd know your above statement is false.

"Leaving it open ensures the entire town will die off as boats cant get to them. YET, a intellegent evil could in fact see the profit and advantage to closeing the dam to increase trade route. since you have saved the town anyways (curing the forest regardless which choice you make and killing the pirates) you are in a position to PROFIT from the town being profitable" You didn't talk to the one merchant, obviously. Everyone will not die. And, CF isn't always about being profitable 9though in JE it can mean that too). It's also about slef reliance. If the town cna't be self reliant to close the gates themsleves; it's their problem not yours. Also from other thread: That's not true. Look at how you handle the guy by the beach early in the game who has a debt with Gao the Greater. CF; but not evil or that girl in ch2 with the slavers... The above was to help keep your thread spoiler free...

"Yet the game play only allows you to become closed fist by doing thugish non intellegent acts. There is no reasoning behind the acts other then to hurt others. And that is NOT the way the philosophy is presented." SPOILERS

"lol, saying that doesnt make it true. Back it up!" Huh!?! I have backed it up! read my review. "Thats NOT good game design, RPG or not when the price tag for game so heavy and the initial play through content so limited and short!" That's fantastic deisgn. It means it isn't teenie bopper evil/CF; but real CF. I love it when you cna get a slave girl to kill her wannabe master. I love it! And, that's not evil! "how would you know what a TRUE RPG fan likes" because I know FO2 > KOTOR2! (w00t)