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"Cammy has a much higher ceiling than Bourque though." True. "He's on pace for his worst season since he broke into the league while Bourque is playing career years. Bourque overall isn't that much better than Cammy's worst years." Even counting Cam's ceiling season of 38 goals, their goals per game averages aren't all that different. And, Bourque can being size (!) and physicality (not to mention illegal hits lol) as well. cam is only good for scoring goals. This sums it up nicely: http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=384950 By the numbers, offensively, the Canadiens lose nothing - espicially since they gain cap space, a more physical player (who can score too), and someone who isn't having his worst season. Still, as a side before, all this proves - yet again - is that players should NEVER be loyal to teams or fans as teams and fans will NEVER be loyal to players. 2 years ago, Cammarelli was a god in Montreal cause he got hot in scored some goals in the playoffs and now because he's struggled the fans boo him and tream him like dirt then he vocally criticizes the team INCLUDING HIMSELF and rightfully so (not the first or last player to do so) and he's gone within 2 days traded ina MIDDLE OF A GAME (so disprectful and pathetic by the brass). They also feel the need to lie and claim that the trade was officially in the works for a long whjile. In the end, whether or not that's true, so frigign' bogus. "Dude, we've been talking online for around 8 years. So if you were a 13 year old girl when we met, you are legal now." Unless I was 5 years old 8 years ago...

Size matters but he's already proven he can play with bigger guys. I don't trust you. You've given me no reason to. All you are is some randoms tranger on the net tylling me trust them.. just like some 50 year old man telling a 13 year old girl that he's 15 and she should trust him. NO! Size doesn't matter a smuch as you think it does. Hockey experts know this. TRUST ME.

"I could have lived with a trade, but Bourque, an unproven prospect and a 2nd round pick next year for Cammy" In defense of Bourque who a lot of people like to belittle in comparison to Camarillei, his goals per game average is pretty much equal with cam despite being basically have a cheap. By the numbers, the trade itself (only counting those two) isn't really all that unbalanced if at all espicially if you facvtor in the physical (suspension notwithstanding) fact that Bourque brings. "pretty small." So irrelevant and such a lame cupout criticism. Whenever someone uses he's 'small' to criticize and bash a player it justw eakens everything becuase it just comes acorss as desperate and ignorant. So many exmaples of so called 'small' players being successful it's beyiond ridiculous. If he can perform at the NHL level (which if the stats you gave is accurate he can) he can perform at that level.

L0L... But, I thoguht nobody other than the Rangers would want Avery? btw, That kind of scummery (proably forced by Torturechips) is likely why the Rangers got punished last night by a crap team. R00fles! P.S. Does Torturechips have a duiaghter or son.. Avery must have dated them as it is the only expaklination why that piece ofc rpa loathes him so much since in the grand scheme of things Avery is harmless comapred to other hockey scumbags. P.S.S. Montreal proves once again why players should NEVEWR have loyalty to teams. A little bit of criticism and youa re thrown in the trash.. just after being considwered a 'god'. Pathetic.

"Saving this for the "stop lying, never said that" response in your next inevitable squabble. " Just make sure you keep it in context and not just random parts. R00fles!

"Way off topic, but BG1 WAS better than DA2. Graphics do not make the game. Many seem to have forgotten that these days, and kids just look for the latest eye candy." I remember those days. A lot more clearer than you apparantly. BG1 is NOT better than DA2. The only BIO RPG it is better than is... none, actually. Not even KOTOR. ": BW worst game ever is without a shadow of a doubt Neverwinter Nights. Really, no contest there" Nope. it's their best game. Even taking the OC only, it's vastly better than BG1 or KOTOR1 as well. "You can hate on BG series as much as you want. Fact is, along with Fallout 1+2 and Planescape: Torment its the most talked about and admired RPG ever, and is popular even today. Observe, GOG's catalog of 300 games according to sales:" PST isn't talked about by anyone but a handful of people. The FOs are only taked about because of the newer games. GOG sales prove crap. NWN also sells pretty well on GOG despite still being avaialable in stores. And, PST is not the most admired and certainyl not the most talked about RPG ever. Are you joking? You need to get out of the Obsidian-Codex-Troika crowd. Don't embarass yourself. P.S. That BG remake won't be finished.

"Are you really comparing the latest game of a developer to their decade old first try at RPG's?" YTou are. Youa re claiming their older games are better when that simply isn't true. "If the game wasn't better than BG1 that would be grounds for hara-kiri." L0L But, you claim DA2 is their worst game ever .. now, youa re actually claiming DA2 is better thasn BG1. So, which is it? LMAO "For the sake of other forum members I won't bring BGII, ToB and the series as a whole into this discussion and see how their late offerings compare to it. That would be really pointless as everyone's position on the issue is well known." BG2 has many things that aren't done as well as BIO's newer games. IIRC, TOB was actually lambasted by many people as well. "I hold that the only thing Bioware has released that's really fresh and original (up to a point) since the BG series are the Mass Effect games. Other games, like Jade Empire and Dragon Age are too flawed or derivative to consider." JE, ME, and DA are ALL more frshs and original than the BG series. ALL OF THEM. BG is veryd eriative and flawed. "KOTOR sucks. It sucked then, it sucks now. But its SW so no one cares and they play it anyway." It doesn't suck as much as BG does. But, you think people play it just because it's sSW? That's baloney. people play it b/c they like.

Yup. And, it was awesome.

Drowsy, it be easier on you if you just posted the following on every page of a BIO trhead: "BIo sucks now!" People say I'm repetitive, but you are probably the most repettive guy on the baord except for maybe one other poster. And, before youc ry about me being a BIO fnaboy, I should let you know this fanboy is such a fnaboy he rushed out and preorder and have been playing KOTOR MMO nonstop since release... oh yeah, no I haven't... my bad. The BIO games of today are, by and alrge, vastly superior to their earlier games. BG1 is a friggin' joke. SS2, and MDK2 are patehtic. BG2 is awesome and is the only old game that is stilkl good but even then is misisng out on awesome stuff. KOTOR is as overrated as BG1. DA2 > BG1 No contest. Better characters, better writing, better story, better graphics, better music, better combat, better character system, plainly better anything.

One guy in a company of hundreds is not enough -espicially when the big wigs who make the major final decisions are still there in power. The big talk was a multitude of long time developers leaving not just one guy. Come talk to me when the docs leave BIO. That would be a big deal. Again, turnover hasppens allt he time. Obsidian has seen turnover too but as long as the owners who make the final decisions - ie FU, Avellone et al. - are still at Obsidian and in control, no big deal.

Diablo 1 is just as good on console as it is on PC. Plays no different.

DA2 is just as good as DA1. As for turnover, all I see is 'specualtion' and not fact. Either way, turnover always occurs. Not one company doesn't see turnover. "I remember one guy" l0lz

"I recently read that long-term bioware employees have been resigning after the direction games like ME2 and DA2 have gone in." Like who? "I'm just speculating" I see. 'Nough said.

"Ranged combat on consoles will either be piss easy or an absolute nightmare to aim." This doesn't make a lick fo sense since plenty of console games have awesome shooting/aiming for ranged combat. Your logic is poor. "So Blizzard is finally making the transition?" FINALLY? They made the 'transistion' way back with Diablo 1. And, it was a lot more fun on console than on PC.

Trust me, if I was Herve, I would have made no deal, and I would have battled to the (bitter) end. Then again, BG3 and FO3 would have been made at Interplay now would I have ogone all stupid with BIO over NWN losing that prime seller. R00fles!

"Actually Interplay had very little standing in the case since the very beginning, and managed to survive in the case so far only due to Bethesda's lawyers utter incompetence." Only if you believe Betehsda's nonsense which, obviiously, the courts were not buying into. "That assumes some fundamental level of competency on the part of interplay." Interplay's comptency is irrelevant. This is simply a case of the side with more $ getting what they wanty no matter what the actual facts are. Interplay likely didn't have the funds to go any longer. Simple as that. "I certainly wouldn't want Interplay touching the IP that I paid good money for." 1. It was Interplay's Ip to begin, and when they sold the rights they had the right to keep certain things as part of negotiations. Afterall, Interplay created FO. 2. I certainly wouldn't want Betehada to touch my IP. It says a lot that Obsidian - those people whoc reated crasp like DS3 and AP - made a much better FO3 than Betehasda did. 3. Interplay 'touching' the Ip was irreleavnt since both new Fos made millions and Interplay has been 'touching' the IP for a decade + sicne, again, interplay created it. Beteahds is justs cumbags who used money to bully, intimidate, and threaten tog et what they want and were more active (because they had money) tof roce fed their propaganda abotut ehris die down people's throats. The judge wasn't buying it, though. INTERPLAY > BETEHSDA

Majors windle? He got screwed? He should ahve pushed for me as he was in good standinjg to actually win the court case, and a FO MMO is sure to make way more than 2mil. Way more. The swindlers here are the peices ofc rap known as Betehsda who used intimiation, expensive lawyers, and deeper projects to push the little guy around when theyw er ein the wrong. DISGUSTING!!! p.s. That article reeks of Betehsda bias. Scumbags of the highest order!

"The real trick in BW games is when you unwittingly become gay. Don't blink or you might miss it. And then you'll be struck wondering why Jabba is looking at you like that." I know you are doing it on purpose (the fact you are Boo explains everything) but you can't 'accidentally' become gay in BIO games or in RL. If youa re gay justa dmit it. Nothing to be ashamed about in 2012.

"game of a tasteless, juvenile tv show." You mkake it sound awesome and I don't really watch SP.

"Swallowed, hook, line and sinker. When will you turn 15? " Eh. I don't mind being trolled. I find it amusing that you felt me worthy enough to troll. L0LZ "And this was such a fun thread before you guys had to start measuring handbags." I agree. But blame the douche who did the trolling.

"Renegade is Red Paragon is Blue Assuming Direct Control This Hurts You" R00fles!

NHL 12, NWN1, FO2, FO:LV, and RT.

I ain't the company who decided to use the NWN name to pimp my MMO am I? NWN does not need my help to be remembered or have its influence felt or be the closest thing to pnp in CRPG history. R00fles!

"Bioware is making C&C Generals 2," No, they aren't. Some toher comapny is after having their name changed. L0LZ

Where's the proof? All I see is a bunch of random killings in BG1 with mostly lame attempts at humour thrown with a few genuine chuckles once in the blue moon. Not to mention, it's BG1 being discussed currently in this thread not BG2. Also, hilarious, that you hate and annoyed by me so much you felt the need to troll me in a thread I hadn't even posted in. Now, you gone to try to ruin a rather harmles thread and besmirhed the OP with your pathetic trolling. R00fles!