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Unless the Bruins pull it out vs the Caps in game 7, I'm gonna go 0-8 this first round. WOWSERZ!

Torturechips scews up again!

I have a sad feeling I'm gonna have , by far, my worst predicting round since we started doing them here. L0LZ Canucks, after they are eliminated, need to trade one of their goalies away. Pick one and go from there. Fix your holes and move on.

Torturechips chokes again!

It isn't getting worse. It's getting better. It's just more magnified in modern times with non stopm tv, interent and everything else type coverage. When Gordie Howe agve somebody an elbow to the face decades ago nbody - espicially outaside the hockey world - gave a crap..

"And Gabe and Ray are after what, your love? Relax, they're not going to force feed you the new edition." That's hilarious! When in doubt, attack the docs... who without, BG would not even exist so this silly Kickstarter would not even be here. L0LZ More and more and more, this BG Kickstarter sounds stupid. At least the Wasteland one has awesome potential.

"I could go on a rant about the lack of respect players are showing each other nowadays" 'Nowadays'? I laugh at that. I've been hearing this since I started atching hockey some 30 years ago. And, the 'lack of respect' has always been there. ALWAYS. Have people forgotten the Broadstreet Bullies, Gordie Howe, and a bunch of dispresectful punks? L0LZ And, I'm sure the same sort of crap happened in the early days but nobody really remembers that time since it was even longer ago.

L0L BG1 KOTOR LOL BG1 isn't even he best in the series, and KOTOR is just a rip off of NWN OC.

Yup. That's why BG1 sold like it did following the logic being used. L0L

"I suggest that NWN2 had sold 1+ million copies (wich is fair for a PC exclusive: same as the glorified TW2). The links above talked about the sales of the franchise before MoTB and SoZ (it was Atari's announcement of Mask of the Betrayer). And I suggest that NWN1 sales after 2004 are not that relevant considering that it's a game of 2002. Having said that, maybe I'm wrong: so if you can find me some piece of info about sales that contradicts my links above I will admit being wrong without any problem." The BIo site itseklf despite not being updated in years.

It say more than not the exact number. It's a fact that NWN1 and expansions have sold 3mil+. Yours econd link says NWN had sold 2mil PLUS before NWN2 was even released. You suggesting NWN hasn't sold a copy since then or that NWN2 + expansions sold less than a mil? Come on now, don't be silly. I trust BIO and Atari more than you and your fantasy land. Only one trolling here is Boo. "And which game made the Bioware name be worth a damn to most gamers?" Who made that game? BIO. BIO earned their customers by making games people want to play, and they are still doing it despite the whining. That's why JE was considered a 'poor' seller despite reaching 1.5-2mil sales. Are you claiming KOTOR was so horrible that people avoided BIO's next game because of it? Come on now, don't be ridiculous. And, that JE was soa wesome that it convinced 3milish people to purchase ME1 DESPITE SELLING LESS THAN 2MIL ITSELF? LMAO

Oh, please. old games were easy as well. Theyw ere so easy that little kiddies 9which mo9st of us were at that time if even alive) and yet managed to complete. At owrst, theyw ere all trial and error. Like any other game.

"Dunno how many more nails Vol needs in NWN's coffin, but there's that: "From the creators of Baldur's Gate" on every NWN box and who here doesn't believe that sold the game more than the game sold itself?" NWN sold because of BIo and the DnD license not BG.

No, the SP campaign was alreayd there. They were just seperate sample mods that they decided to connect into one big campaign. the thing that whining got was henchmen. They weren't going to have any joinable npcs at all becuase they were aiming for MP. That's why the npc quests are connect strictly by fetch quests. the characters themselevs have interesting backgrounds, and personality but the storylines are gipped due to the way it's put together.l

Torturechips chokes away home ice advantage! L0LZ What a loser that piece of crap is.

"No, infact they developed TOR MMO" Not a sequel. tahtb was KOTOR2 which was developed by Obsidian. BIO passed on it. If your silly theory about NWN is true, KOTOR1 must of been a fialure since BIO passed on it. And, opted instead to make their own SWlike frnachise in ME which has been way more successful since theyd eveloped TWO sequels to it. L0LZ "Because they aren't lies. The whole NWN franchise sold 3+ million copies: NWN2, MOTB and SOZ included." No. NWN1 sold 3mil+ with the two expansions. BIo made it clear that NWN was their most successful game... until DA/ME series came along. That's right. more successful than either BG game or KOTOR. Take that sucka! "But they dropped the entire idea of end user content. Why if it was such a success? Sadly, it wasn't. " No, they didn't. DA1 has it. But, it sucked so much and unpopualr that it belongs in the garbage. NWN toolset and PM are some of the precursers to modern DLC. LMAO "Not at all. It was added as an extra feature, and they've said it themselves. It showed too. It was so buggy, the server could never hold for more than 2 hours, at which point memory leaks would lead to constant swap-ins/swap-outs and consequently huge time response, 2000-4000 ms wasn't anything unusual. The server had to be restarted all the time. It also used to just crash all of the sudden, quite often, and then everyone would have to wait till the admin got home." You on crack? NWN MP was very stable. I played it for eyars, and the servers are still running and still working fun 9albeit not quite a spopular as NWN's prime obviously since it's a near 10 year old game). The MP was not an added feature for NWN. Are you on crack? they had a live time dedciated to it, the toolset, and everything else. Lots of the patches and parts of ther expansion were also decidated to online play and modules. LONG LIVE NWN DEATH TO BG!

"Considering that NWN+expansions have sold more or less 1,5 milion copies we're not talking of a lot of people and it would be hard to call it a a success. If it was a success, we would have seen a sequel from Bioware and not Obsidian." L0LZ So.. KOTOR was a failure too? P.S. NWN + expansions sold 3mil+. Boith BG games + exapnsions sold 5mil combined. Why do people make up lies? P.S.S. After KOTOR, BIo simply wanted a break from others' IPs.

That's funny. That's exactly what's been said after almost every BIO release since TOB. LMAO BIO haters are gonna ahve to get used to the fact that as long as BIO games are selling millions of copies they ain't goin' anywhere anytime soon. Espciially as long as EA feels the ened to continue to amke every division a BIO division. Heh.

"Your reasoning is valid. But let me say this : Fleury, Crosby, Malkin. Aside from Malkin going number 2(heh), would you consider Pittsburgh a joke franchise as well? " Please don't be ignorant. It's rude. Speaking of Pens, I hope they don't blow another lead. L0L

But... but... in one interview... a bio doc claimed that supreme selling blockbusters cans ell 10 mil and that was their ultimate goal and they had yet to rech that number... so yeah it must explain why ME3 is a fialure but BG isn't despite it not selling 10mil either. But, hey they expected to sell 10mil copies but only shipped 3.5. LOGIC.

In accurate and out fod ate figures. L0LZ You have an axe to grind against NW. BIo does not have an axe tio grind against either franchise so their words are more trustworthy in this case than your silliness. Don't be a turd and amdit the truth. BG is overrated wananbe trash. P.S. That list has so many inaccuracies. L0L It even disputes other figure on other games . L0LZ

Toronto - grabs their fans' money yet never seriously tries to win despite being arguably the most popular team in the entire league, fanbase is led by a well known bigot Montreal - Bigotry at its finest. Living way too much on past success. The way they treat argubaly their biggest ever in patrick Roy was disgusting yet here they are pretty much trying to get him back in the fold. Edmonton - L0L Outside of joke franchises like Phoenix 9who at least try to win) and the now departed Atlanta, are pathetic. So bad so that pretty much nobody of note wants to play there. It's not a coincidence they've had the #1 pick 3 seasons in a row (luck of the draw notiwthstanding) as a 'reward' for losing. Couple of seasons now they've had amassed 5 1s overall picks, and be top 3 team in the elague and people will praise them for it. People should NOt be rewarded for sucking. Calgary - Not much negative to say about this team (outside of not being able to get over the hump when they were a top team). Ottawa - outside of some mistreatment of their players (Emery, Heatley, & Yashin) they overall ar eharmless. Vancouver - While the fans are a little over the top for their bashing of Luongo overall solid. The players have a 'reputation' for being soft./dirty yet they are no worse than all other teams. The owners try to win, and they've stood by the Sedins even during the seasons where they underperformed and got flak for doing so.

Don't be mad bro that NWN > BG. Just a fact, yo. BG is a wanna RPG. NWN is a RPG. It's one of only two true RPGs in gaming, inf act. And, the better of the two. Back on topic, this kickstarter freak show better do siomething to make a rerepurchase of BG series worth it. But, like I said above, they likely don't have the ballz to do what is required. P.S. Delfosse is a fanboyw ho cna't see facts as they are. It's been confirmed that NWN was more successful than BG. It's undisputable unless you are a nutbar who lives iun Fantasy Land just like it's undisputable that BG2 is bettert han BG1.

"I never once said ME3 was a failure financially. I've stated multiple times that we don't know how much it cost to make ME3, and thus only BioWare knows for certain." Then, youa re arguing with the wrong person then. , "though not really enough to justify the ludicrous prive paid by EA for Bioware in the first place." 1. ia gree the price paid was ridiculous. 2. It is also ridiculous that the pruchase of BIo was just dependent on ME3, but on other proeprties too. Not to mention, almost every new (or EA division) is being turned into BIO. Soo.. EA Sports is gonna be called BIO EA Sports. L0L

"And what do you mean by that? Shouldn't maybe you be told being wrong? ^^ As far as the scores by Metacritics and GameRankings go both parts of BG series show some of the bigger notes than NWN (slightly, but they are de facto bigger), and in case of the total number of the copies sold only the first BG has sold out somewhat parallel to the NWN, while BG2 was quite more succesful than Neverwinter Nights " Nope. It was made ve clear that prior to DA 9and the games afterwrads), NWN was, by far, BIO's most successful game. lol metacritics lol