LadyCrimson

Good point stoffe - maybe Padawans were done around age 10-13 'back then'. I must admit I was thinking of little Anakin when I asked that question. :D

But if Disciple was 12 at the start of the Mandolorian wars, why would he think the Exile might take him as a Padawan? Maybe they mixed it up and he was hoping the Exile would be the Master for the next step? He does talk about failing the first test or something.

I usually like older men, but yeehaaw I'm having fun robbin' the cradle so to speak, this time around. The age ranges stoffe listed are pretty much the ones I've seen bantered about in various threads, and from what I glean from story and fans, they sound like pretty good guesses to me. Btw, not being all that familiar with SW lore - what's the general cut-off age for becoming a Padawan? Just curious.

He says that in the Korriban cave test sequence.

I replied to a thread like this a while back but apparently it wasn't this one, and my opinions have changed somewhat since back then...and I'm awake. So... Can't stand: Hanhar. -- The whole 'lifedebt' thing...I hate stories like that - where 'honor' 'must' override everything. Some types of honor I understand or sympathize with, but Harhar's version of it I don't. It's why I didn't like the Klingons in ST:TNG either. Mandalore --That honor thing again. Neutral/boring: GoTo -- not useful, not interesting, big snore, never used beyond one try. Visas -- makes a good Jedi, but nothing no one else can't do, and I'm probably one of the few that does NOT like her voice-acting, so I just ignore her now. Kreia -- I love her voice, and her story-motivation, but as a party member, I leave her on the Hawk. Amusement value: T3 - I love it when he comes charging in to attack Visas on the Ebonhawk. He's absolutely adorable. But not really much of a party-member. Hk-47 - Funny guy with some wonderful (tho unsubtle) sarcasm going on -good with a blaster, but I guess I'm not a big droid-in-party fan either. Favorites Mira - She's fun, she interacts w/Atton, she's scrappy w/attittude, she makes a passable Jedi and has decent skills. Plus I like her outfit. I usually take her to Dxun's tomb these days. Atton -- 1st time I played I went Dark, so I didn't like him just for his looks, haha. He's great either ranged or melee depending how you build him. Plus he's photogenic and mugs for the camera and I like that in a man. Bao-Dur -- I don't find him attractive at all, voice or appearance - he sounds stoned and makes me sleepy when he talks. But he's good in a fight - barefisted or weapons. Use him a lot on Dxun/Onderon. Disciple -- Annoyed me a lot at first, grew on me, and now he's my #1 favorite. It's the voice and his constant effort to be polite even when you just know he's steaming (if you're 'mean' to him) that has me laughing. I like a lot of his situation-reaction lines. Plus he's the yin to Atton's yang. Or something. Kavar -- hope I got that right - the Jedi on Nal Shad. He's the only one you feel bad if you kill him...his 'Damn you must die!" sounds so desperately noble or something. The rest....well, this probably says something about the story of the game, maybe, but they're kind of non-entities to me. No better than all the Sith that keep popping out of the woodwork. Sion does have a cool voice. And if you're female Exile, it's interesting how he seems to have a crush on her, perhaps.

I find the game gets glitcher the more save games you have/the more files are written. Also, I firmly believe that the savegame editor, while generally 'safe', creates some minor intermittent glitching during it's over-writing process, particularly with graphics. Nothing major...and doesn't always happen - but all the times I've encountered 'more than the usual in my game' glitches (in my experience only), I was playing from an edited save game.

Nope. Nothing I've seen yet in either speech or the text file (although granted, the text file is hard to read/find stuf)...there's some unused Sion bits where he's apaprently talking to Nihil and telling him he (Sion) doesn't need him anymore and that Traya still lives blah blah but Nihil never says a word.

Well, since the patch came out early-mid-morning on Thursday (PST) and that's when they said it, technically it's almost been 2 work days. But fine...8-10am on Monday then. After that we can poke lighthearted fun, if it's not here yet.

Because it doesn't always work 100% reliably for that and I'd still have to start a new game 8 times just for that, and only be able to take pictures from Peragus, and I'm lazy. As are most others, I assume, since no one posts pictures...

Kotor2 - completed twice (LS/DS), done everything but Malachor maybe...uh....a dozen times? I don't know I've lost count, and sometimes I just load save games and replay sections, so who knows, really. Always female. Kotor1 - bought it, installed it, got the Wookie, haven't touched it since.

I think they really need to stop calling things like Diablo/DungeonSiege etc. 'RPG's' - people call them hacknslash, just create a new genre with that name. That way people won't think they're buying a story RPG and get irritated/feel gyped. :D

I think it's been a 'couple days' already. Ah, the wonderful flexibility of the word 'soon'. "

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The way it's always worked for me is....it raises by 1 point. And it does raise for me, but many report it doesn't for them. And I always have to raise the skill to get the bonus - however, all I have to do is equip an item that increases the skill - not put any 'hard points' into it.

Yup...I don't think anyone really knows if Atris would have been the 'last boss', but there was this unused dialogue where all the NPC's 'confront' and attack Kreia (to rescue Exile or because they think Exile is dead?), and there's a dialogue alternate for it to be Atris they confront instead of Kreia.

And yes, I've had that happen...numerous times. The padawan robes anyway...they're the lowest tier robe anyway...beyond looking cool, they're not even as good as, say, the miners uniform in terms of functionality. :D

For what it's worth, one of the female ones.... http://crimsonkeep.com/kotor2/albums/userp...kotor2-185a.jpg

I've been trying to write out some of the (shorter) dialogues from the .tlk file into a readable reference format for myself, and I remember you asked about Atton's Jedi convo. I don't know if you found one already, if so, ignore this - If not, this is as far as I got....it's long and makes my eyes water to stare at it, let alone organize it into something resembling the in-game order. I got it organized in semi-chunks, but if you want it to read like an actual ordered script you'll have to do it yourself....sorry.... :D Anyway...here's the file....it's in wordpad's richtext format, hope that's ok. http://crimsonkeep.com/downloads/kotor2sound/at-jedi-dia.rtf

Save games will load and play - there's no need to delete them - whether or not they'll be 100% affected by all the patch fixes (positively or negatively) I don't know. New game is a safer bet, but hey, just load up the saves for a few hours and see how it works for you.

That's just the way the game works....item breakdown uses the Exiles Repair skill. Why, I couldn't tell you. P.S. There's really not much need for more than 10-15 in awareness. Ever.

DS is a hacknslash - but since I liked Diablo1 & 2, I liked DungeonSiege ok. But I never did finish the SP game - the MP environment/map was a lot more fun so I always played in there instead. The player-mods helped a lot, too, for me - but overall yup, it's best in small doses and replay (or obsession) value is low. The sequel does look more promising. Time will tell.

Oy! It's very annoying, and I've thought about that very thing many times.

Seems to me that some X-boxers are mistaking a fan created content mod for an official patch..... Fans have modded games on the PC for years, and they'll continue to do so - that has nothing to do with anything official or being 'ripped off' by a company because Xboxers don't have access to what fans create.

I think he visits the Unofficial Kotor Fan Media site sometimes - a great place for Kotor fans, btw.

I believe in the concept of global warming, and I definitely think the world as a whole (very generalistic comment there) doesn't pay enough attention to pollution - or overpopulation. On the other hand, I leave myself open to the idea that at least part of the noted 'symptoms' could be some kind of cyclic/natural change/influence - perhaps we're greatly speeding it along, but maybe it would still have occured eventually anyway. (Edit - and perhaps we're noticing now it only because we've developed the tech to be able to see it Lastly, I've always had an issue when the news talks about how we're destroying the world or something - when it's really that we're destroying the world for human habitation. The world itself will survive, and perhaps in few billion years, heal itself in some fashion, and a new dominant species will arise. I'd like to be around to see what develops...alas, not possible. :D