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So Disciple is optional?! (w00t) EDIT: Just tried it... the answer is "No" answered it for myself.

It may depend on what you answered in that crowd dialogue when they spoke out against the Queen. You were either against her (with the anti-Talia dialogues) or for her (pro-Talia dialogues).

What?! Haha, Kreia is -- a commercial advertiser?! Haha.

Who cares? At least he has a past. I, personally, question Disciple's sexuality and think that maybe he's a reincarnate of Tinky-Winky seeking revenge on the ones who made his show get cancelled because they reavelaed he touched Dipsy and Poe. Sorry, just had to bash a no-brain children's show. Anyways, I love Atton's character, excpte *cough* more dialgoue would've been better *cough*. I'm planning on using a cheat I read somewhere in a walkthrough to get infinte Atton infulence on Nar Shadda and do Dantooine last and maybe skip the enclave ruins if possible and just go to the caves, resue Vrook, and be on my merry way. ^_^

Too bad you can't ditch him regardless. I wish you could kill his prettyboy ass right then and there. I hate Disciple... you do not want him in your party. ...he screws up what "romances" female characters get thrown.

(When Kreia teaches you about reading thoughts and you listen round the ship to the hyperdrive and T3) Kreia: Listen to them... on the ship... (Exhile listens) (Atton is in the front of the Ebon Hawk) Atton: (thoughts) Good, the Sports Illustrated Swimsuit Issue is out. Damn it, we're on Dantooine. I bet this stupid backwater planet doesn't even have a news stand. (Handmaiden in the cargo hold). Handmaiden: Fighting naked? Hm gotta try that... Exhile: Hey! Kreia: Do not visit her anymore --- or if you're Female --- (Disciple inthe Medical Bay) Disciple: When I get back home, I think I'll pick up that plastic lightsaber and start collecting Twi'lek Dancerz again. They're so pretty... Kreia: Kick him off, since he obviously does not know if he is a real man or not. (Visas in the port (?) dormitory) Visas: Too bad the jargon my old master spoke doesn't have a dictionary... I would really like to know what he said as he saw those Twi'lek dancers through the Force. (Bao-Dur in the garage) Bao-Dur: What do you think? Remote: Beepity! Bao-Dur: Even droids get lonely. Now you have a girlfriend. Girl Remote (in a higher, more 'feminine' droid beep): Deep-boop. (resumes to Kreia/Exhile's lesson) Kreia: Now you see why I do not approve of so many joining. Exhile: I now understand you fully.

Thank God I'm not the only Carth/Atton fan.

(Ebon Hawk crew is in the central place of the ship) Atton: Explain this again? Exhile: The Ebon Hawk needs repairs since *someone* blew up T3 to bits pratically. Bao-Dur: But luckily he can be fixed. It will take more time since I lost my Remote too. (everyone stares at G0-T0) Goto: What?! (turns back to Exhile) Exhile: Anyways, after that Iziz incident and Atton's lack of skill -- Atton: Hey, that old witch put some sort of mind trick on me! Keria: (not-so-loudly) It was so you'd stop raidiing the food supply. Exhile: ...so we need to raise some money to fix the ship. HK-47: Suggestion: Master, how about I termanite organic meatbags? Mira: Hey, if anybody does the bounty hunting, it'll be me. HK-47: Arguing Statement: But I can taunt them in their own langugage. Mira: But can you blast them with rockets? HK-47: Query: May I terminate this organic meatbag now, Master? Exhile: No. She saved my skin on Nar Shadda. Disciple: I think we should hold a meditation content. Atton: Not you, again. I thought we lost you on Nar Shadda. Disciple: Ah, but I found you on Telos. Atton: He's obviously spying on you for the Republic. Exhile: Really? Disciple: (silent) Exhile (turing from Disciple/Atton to the rest of the group): Any suggestions other than bounty hunting? Kreia: We *might* have enough money if you weren't so charitable. Exhile: Excuse me, I'm playing Light Side. I will play Dark Side next game so just keep your robes on. Kreia: We're going to be stuck in this game forever if you don't stop rejecting rewards. Bao-Dur: We could always sell some equpitment. Atton: Yeah, and if we wanted a free show, we could sell all the clothing and armor, too. Disciple: See?! That's exactly the kind of thing we'd expect from you. Kreia: Just because he has a past doesn't mean you need to insult him, you ignorant prettyboy. Disciple: I will be meditatiing. Exhile: Good. Hey, HK-47? HK-47: Statement: HK-47 is ready to serve, and is also ready to terminate a meatbag, at your pleasre, Master. Exhile: Good, go torment Disciple by stealing his doll collection he keeps underneath his robes. Exhile (after HK leaves): So do we have any ideas other than bounty hunting and having a strip club? (Atton looks disappointed) Exhile: Anybody? Visas: Maybe we could offer a shuttle service after the ship is repaired so we could pay off the debts then? Exhile: They want an up-front fee. Atton: Then they'll take a blaster to the head. Exhle: Sounds good. Let's go

A really cool thing, if you were DS, if you could kill Disciple. Maybe he coudl stop you from fighting final boss maybe he could try to stop you and the power of the *planet* could come into you and *zap* he'd be DEAD?! :D

(Mira, Visas, and Exhile are in the area where Visas is in on the Ebon Hawk). Mira: So, we're going to get the boutny on Jedi? Exhile: We can't! Goto's with us! Visas: Maybe we could dump him on Telos's Polar Academy and we could make him a Handmaiden? Mira: I say we blast him down. Exhile: Humiliation before blasting down. Mira: Damn it! Visas: Someone's coming! (T3 enters) T3: Beep-bo-beep. Mira: Scram you bucket of bolts. T3: Dwooo. Exhile: Wait... hang on. Those computer skills come in handy other than for slicing systems... T3: Beep beepity beep. Mira: She knows what she's doing, tin can. Exhile: Hang on T3... okay. We're all set. (screen fades to black) (resumes to Atton in the ****pit fixing the what-not and T3 comes up to him) T3: Beep. Atton: I'm busy, trash compactor. T3: Deep beep wee bo beep. Atton: What?! (T3 starts to play a clearly modified holovid of Disciple talking) Holovid Disciple: I am a transparent man with idiocy written all over my prettyboy face. I have no ego whatsoever and shoudl not have made the final product of a game. I will now go to Nar Shadda and try to pick up male Twil'eks in cantinas by using pick-up lines. Atton: I knew computer skill was good for something... ^ very lame, I know. Disciple: Exhile, I love you. Exhile: That's nice. DIsciple: I am a hero, baby. Exhile: Sorry, but I don't like gay men. Disciple: I care for you. Exhile: I think someone put some skin on a droid. Disciple: Do you love me? Exhile: Okay, let's open you up and see who put in the Sappy-Idiot-Romance-Ruiner program in you... Hk-47: Statement: Master, I desire to kill organic meatbags. Exhile: Wait, I might have a job for you. HK-47: Query: What is it you need crushed, Master? Exhile: Disciple. HK-47: Objection: That prettyboy? Surely there must be something better for me. Observation: Maybe if we involved torture, it would be more pleasurable. Or giving him an advantage. Query: What do you say? Exhile: No, just kill him. HK-47: Statement: As you obey, Master. Obviously Evil Statement: Oh, blonde one, come to me! I need healing!

Atton was much closer to Carth in the sense he actually had emotions/a past. Disciple... oh God, save us from this man. I'm going to replay as a female and do Dantooine last, unlike in my first game as a female, in which I did Dantooine first -- stupid move, I know.

I'd rather see most of them returning, but I don't Canderous would be alive... I mean, the guy had a full head of greys in K1. Unless you killed Admiral Onasi, I'd like to see him returning. Bastila, too? Maybe not as party members but as NPCs you encountered.

Atton: *to Exhile* You need me like a bad habit. (after helping her escape Peragus)

Beating the K1 romance will be hard...

Disciple: Atton, perhaps I should explain - I see relationships with others in a different light, not as possessive, or carnal. Relationships are something shared between two people and give both strength, whether through struggle or whether through affection.I admire her, perhaps even feel for her. It is difficult to be around her and not have such feelings Female Exhile: Shut up, already. *Atton is speechless* Exhile: You going to help me? Disciple: WHat are you doing? *Kreia appears, grinning at him.* Kreia: Come to the quarters with me... *Disciple yelps and runs away* Atton *turning to Exhile after Kreia walks away & Disciple is gone*: Huh?! Female: You'd be amazed at what you can upgrade a droid to do. *walks off* Carth: Safe journey, exhile. *Bastila walk on screen* Bastila: Did she know anything? *hearing Bastila's voice, Exhile runs back in* Exhile: Oh my God! Bastila Shan with the Battle Meditation! Can I have your autograph?! Exhile (after rescuing Vrook): I just save you, you old fart, so you should be lucky there's nobody with a blaster to your head, telling you to just put your arms across your body and slip on the white jacket. *at the confrentation of Darth Sion on Malachor V* Exhile: So, how much plastic surgery is keeping you alive? Super glue? Duct tape, perhaps, to explain your greyish color? *pokes* Sion: I will break you. Exhile: Just tell me just in case I need to do the same thing. Sion: Well... you take Circus Peanuts... Exhile: Those ornage things?! Finally, some use for them...! *when asking Bartender Droid on Telos about entertainment* Droid: We have an all-Bith band... *music stops, cantina is in dismay* Droid: What are you doing? Twi'lek : We are Aerosmith!! Patron: Oh my God, Steven Tyler! Droid *to Exhile*: Those damn Americans, you can't escape their pop culture. *when Visas takes off Sion's mask* Exhile: What did you see? Visas: Death... destroying Exhile: No, really, what did you see? Visas: *hesititant to answer* Exhile: Just tell me. I've come from Malachor V, remember? I can handle it. Visas: A clone of Disciple. Exhile: *faints* *wandering round Sith Academy* Atton: Oooh, what's this?! *finds Malak's Jaw metallic thing on the ground* Bao-Dur: Wow. Such a mechaism. Exhile: Guys, Sion's here! Atton: *puts on Jaw* Haha! I'm all metally sounding like a droid. Bao-Dur: Such good craftsmanship... *on the Ebon Hawk* Exhile *crying*: They were amazed by machinery... Mira: *comforting Exhile* That's what a real man is...

Thank you. That made me laugh so hard. I do have to agree. Disciple is weird and very ugly, to be put bluntly. 'Disciple' esta muy feo. There's it even in Spanish for the guys who hate English. But seriously.... the guys get Handmaiden AND Visas and we're stuck with some sort of egoless guy? In the game, after hearing him 'truly speak', I was starting to question if he was even straight or not. I mean, hearing a guy like that talk makes me think he's gay after awhile. And his feeding you bull**** about want to get together... "my eye." Bottom line: Disciple= And what the hell is up with the male romance options? Us poor ladies get thrown some tacky dialogue and no action with Atton while the guys get to fight Handmaiden in some skimpy underwear? How unfair. <_<

I suck at playing DS too. To tell the truth, out of the ten times I've played K1, I've never played the entire game DS. I've -- reluctantly though -- played from the Temple to 'test it out' as a Male/Female, did do the DS ending. (Female made me depressed so I never played it again. ) Just goes to show you how good you really are...

I'm just starting my first planet as a guy and I'm starting to see some improvements... but Nar Shadda was the second to last planet I did, so that may explain the lack-of-Atton? But seriously... Disciple weirded me out... ...kept me laughing. And I talked to Kreia after seeing Visas and she said that mating comment when I don't even know if I can stand her yet and I saw the "charging up her cargo (loading?) ramp" line and started cracking up. Where are those lines for Female Exhile?! <_<

I now seriously wish that you could take Carth out of the DS ending on K1 and insert DIsciple so you could kill him. :D Because to me, Disciple is just some sort of "follow-your-heart" sort of guy who is just, underneath it all, a prettyboy with nothing but his Mom's promise she loves him forever.

I agree with you. I played as Female PC (starting) as I did in K1. I was so happy there was a Carth romance because whenever you want two people in a story to get together, they never do, but K1 was luckily an acception. In K2, however, I was so disappointed when there was nothing of an Atton romance. From the beginning, I thought of Disciple as a weirdo with no real name, a history I could care less about, the most annoying voice God ever created, and has strange definitions of "relationship"; when he explained what a "relationship" was to Atton, it sounded as a textbook answer. And in the endgame after finally defeating Kreia after many tries, I was so glad when she gave me closure on the characters... not very impressed in the manner in which it was given and after she explained about Mira and all I was sort of disappointed. I was thinking, "This is like some sort of stupid prediction!" Anyways, I was getting tense when she says, "Disciple loves you... blah blah blah." It's like, "I want to REJECT HIM, you idiot!" So yeah, finally Atton was last. And I was glad when there was the "Did he love me?" option. But, I was so angry when she said, "He is a fool and that should answer all your questions." WHAT?! It's like she's insulting me for calling him a fool to love me or that he's just stupid and lies to himself. Too cryptic... bah. When I found out Atton's death was cut, I was disappointed with Obisidian. But then again some stuff is cut. Luckily someone made a mod for K1 where you could get the cut Carth ending back in. (I replayed the Star Forge for it :\). But, seriously... where's the female PC's romances? I'm now playing as a guy, hoping to get something of a romance between either Handmaiden, Visas, or Mira.

Uh, dude, that's why there are difficulty settings...

Wow... didn't think of that. She always gets on your case when you help somebody out and do LS moves (havn't done DS game yet... but I've read she barks at you for doing DS stuff like killing 'innoncents' too) but she doesn't get mad at Disciple, or at least insult him, because he's completely LS. But I did enjoy those little cutscenes where she sort of played with his mind... :D

Someone added the cut Carth/PC Female Romance DS Ending option to K1. So it may be possible to add the endings back in.

One thing I could not stand in K2 was playing female and the lack of romance... When you talk to Kreia in the end, I got that "Disciple blindly loves me" or something stupid. I could not stand Disciple. He remided me of some sort of strange self-sacrificing prettyboy with weird notitions about relationships. I was disappointed when you asked Kreia about Atton "Did he love me?" she says "He is a fool... blah blah... that should answer all your questions." I looked at the screen like this: <_< I was so annoyed at her.... too bad you couldn't scream at her "Just tell me,!" And I do agree that the 'cryptic' talk of the Jedi ("Jedi Talk" as Atton calls it) is a bit irritating and annoying.

One track I really like is the theme and when the Ebon Hawk flies by in the ending cutscene before the credits roll.... that's nice instrumental music.