Torm51

Agreed monks at low level ( and all for that matter) are really good cause of tormen's reach. They also aren't as soft as a rogue.

I am trying to improve the early game experience as it is always a slog on PotD. For a Paladin even a 20 PER (so +10 ACC) and ZF is not enough for him to hit consistently. I end going one handed weapon only for my dps slot early just for the ACC.

I know it. Chanter and Barb are worse off at that point as the Chanter isn't as sturdy as the Paladin and the Barb cannot hit a damn thing and is dirt napping. I have beaten this game on the highest difficulty and on ToI but those Paladins in the early game have always given me a hard time. I wish my Paladin was that effective in the early game. I would LOVE to see the attribute points on those Paladins of Berath have though. Are they higher level? cause they have ALWAYS been super tough and even a character with high Deflection gets hit A lot by them. They are super tanks (they are Paladins) have a very good ACC (which Paladins usually don't have that early) and have Zealous Focus, FoD and LoH

So just for the fun of it I assaulted Readrics Keep and went straight to the front door. I always play on PotD so there is obviously a lot of bad guys. One issue I have always had with my Paladin is the lack of being able to do ANYTHING if the frontline is somehow bi passed. I obviously remedy this by having a melee heavy group but he just feel USELESS if the frontline is somehow breached as his damage dealing capabilities even when he is speced for some damage isn't very good and there is obviously no threat mechanic in the game. The Paladin gets no knock down or any type of CC to try and help buddies disengage. I have re made my Paladin 100000 times and even if you have the Paladin with 20 PER in the early game and somewhat still in the late game his damage after FoD is neglible. ACC is so average that even with a 20 PER its still so so. If I was the AI I just wouldn't pay any attention to the Paladin and leave him for last. My disengagement attacks do hit hard as I always have good might but it still wouldn't be enough if the AI made a concentrated effort at getting to the backline. That being said if my frontline is solid he is AWESOME.

Go onto steam. Right click the game. Select Properties and then select "Verify Game Cache" it will ensure that all your files in game are not damaged and if they ware will re download them.

Try verifying your game files on steam. This happen to me in patch 2.03 and I right clicked the game and verified the games cache and it stopped happening.

What is an everlasting download?

I am not understanding what is the problem.

I prefer POE as well and I do like Fallout.

Stop making sense and talking me out of this! lmao

How much Con did you have? my last PotD/ToI I had 14. Was more then enough.

Dude I just like to swim in HP. I have always tanked in past rpgs and mmos so it just hits my epeen when Eder has more HP then me. Mosspit, you are a smart dude. I know its useless lmao

Ok so I just wanted to do something a bit weird. I have never played a mountain dwarf cause of their super limited racial but I am playing one now cause well Dwarf and I am for some reason obsessed with having oceans of hit points. He also has high Might so his damage and Fort will be freakin great. Hes going to be a Darcozzi Paladini hard ass Front liner with some support abilities/talents to set up my heavy melee dps crew. To make up for crap ACC that Paladins get and my 10 PER I will go one hander dammit have a super freakin high ACC and good might and I will definitely be able to secure kills with FoD this way. Might: 16 Con: 18 Dex: 8 (10 with enchants) Per: 10 Int : 10 (12 with helm) Res: 16 Abilties: 1. Lay on Hands 3. Zealous Focus for melee party 5. Flames of Devotion 7.Liberating Exhortation (Talent to give it +10 ACC at level 9: Coordinating Attacks ( coupled with Hard Strike or Shame and Glory for more ACC for my dps monk or fighter..I am really missing Reviving Exhortation here) 11. Righteous Soul 13. Sacred Immolation (low INT means the AOE isn't as good as my 16 Int Paladin but it hits harder).

look cool man. I just don't know why heavily dumped stats make me cry.

PS I think the DOT with Goldpact Knights and FoD sucks anyway unless you are using a Rangers pet.

You have found the issue with Paladin. He needs too many stats to be a real damage dealer. He can definitely Alpha Strike (kill shots) with FoD but the class will never be a real dpser (its my favorite class mind you). Once both Flames of Devotion is used up even with those stats your DPS will be average. Best you can do is be a sturdy front liner who holds the line and adds competent damage while not folding like a stack of cards in order to let other party members to the real damage dealing. Leave your INT dumped if you must get a 10 CON and have a 13 DEX. That's IMO.

The 6 CON is a no go IMO. Leaving it at 10 is fine but having negative values in your second most important defense and have less HP is unsat for a character who is on the front line.

Did it on PotD. High save tanks like Paladins save the day in those encounters. They stay active and don't get CCed (or for very little of the time) and are able to engage the spirits in order to buy the fully CCed party members time. My PC Paladin and Pallegina were invaluable there on my PotD/ToI run.

Always PotD

dammit alright. I will skip the talent. I don't want to Cheese my TC play through.

Ya this happened to me on my first play through too lol

Ya I posted it. Hope its intended as it would make Deprive the Unworthy very worth it for ToI runs as it will allow you to strip immunities from bosses that can really end your run. I just don't want to cheese the game if it isn't intended.

They are removing immunities temporarily from creatures. Not damage immunities but status effect immunities such for example if you hit the Sky Dragon with Deprive the Unworthy or Arcane Dampener you can knock her down and blind her. Is this intended? are their status immunities buffs? I hope so lol!

I wouldn't dump anything on a Paladin. That's just me. I know you are going for a damage dealer Paladin but I would leave it at 10. You are going to be on the front line and your Fort will be super mediocre and its your second most import save. I hate dumping INT too but I get it. Although if you spec for Sacred Immolation its not going to have a good AOE. and Sacred Immolation turns Paladins from being good Alpha Strikers to being able to put out good dps. Granted it doesn't lessen your DPS technically it just lessens the AOE. Also poisons are going to hurt a lot but its doable you will just have to rest more. I feel that Paladins are durable frontliners that where Plate most of the time. If you are not using Flames of Devotion you are not going to be DPSing so your damage while not using FoD is average. If you are using 2handers even with a 12 DEX you are to slow to be a serious damage dealer. Their is a difference between an Alpha Striker and a damage dealer. Its why I personally leave PER at 10. Fod has a +20 ACC with a Weapon Focus and Zealous Focus its more then enough to reliably land hits and crits for the two actual hits that matter per round. This my opine though as I use my Paladin as a durable frontliner capable of securing kills although his main job is party support and tanking. PS I always play PoTD/ToI so this from my experience on that difficulty.

Dude that makes Deprive the Unworthy A LOT more attractive and not just worth it for Thaos fight. I guess the status immunities on bosses/enemies are being counted as buffs. Intended? not intended? What do you guys think?