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I'm going with bitch/bastard suggestion. If you substitute it in it sounds fine... only problem with 's l u t' is that it wouldn't fit Atris - maybe Bastila but it's not like Atris' custom robes make a point of her front and rear "assets"

Just like everything else that didn't make it! Add this to the pile!

Maybe should ask the person who started the "Force Sex" thing cos I certainly couldn't think that extreme. Edit: Are all 351 votes from Males? "

Apparently the swoop racing bug (you NEVER finish even when you do) kicks in as soon as you Forfeit ONCE ANYWHERE. It might be as strict as that but either way the safest method is to never forfeit. (or foreit and reload a game)

Just from what I'm reading (so I could be wrong and everyone has their own view), I tend to go with apparent majority who are satisfied that KotOR 2 has met a satisfactory standard (an *overall* positive game), but make the point of highlighting some of slopiness/mismanagements with their plot/technical/testing/whatever work. Heh, maybe not a majority cos there's so many pages...arggghh!

No one you help knows you're out to save the galaxy or how many people you end up helping out through all the game. Remember, Jedi do not need rewards, and they help people out because it's the right thing to do, not because of pleasure. "I love helping people out, because I'm Homer Simpson!"

I've only played one game of K2 but seeing how the Khoonda movies were in the list, I would assume there are 2 movies for every event: - no mines, yes mines - turrets on, turrets off - ? pep talk success (more people die in the shoot out movie) - ? people sneaking in side door - ? You helping the mercs

He went to Telos from a tip-off by Kreia so I don't think he knew about Bastila, especially cos the Republic fleet arrived after he did. If Nihilus did succeed he probably would've sensed Bastila's sensitivity at the close range. Moving about all the time makes it very hard to track

this is a bit of sider, but what happens if you don't train Handmaiden to be a Jedi or even talk to her at all? I'm just curious to see how Atris reacts to it all cos she's all over the "you became a Jedi", "did you love him" and all that.

Overall (if I had to pick one quickly) I would go Handmaiden in the Dancer's outfit (Mira also looks ok in it but her hair doesn't change with it so it's mismatched) I actually think Concept-Art Atris is up there too - not "hot/sexy" but beautiful/elegant (ignore the attitude and worse looking 3d model).

Yes, Obsidian will need a lot to fix up all their bugs! Just remember that the reason why BioWare have not made anymore patches is cos LucasArts said so. It's was on a few threads over at the BioWare forums. In light of this, I think Obsidian wants to make sure it gets everything fixed in one go cos as soon as LucasArts thinks the game is "good enough", then more patches won't be supported/funded by them.

I was an LS player with Valor, Speed and Immunity but I also had Kill, Deathfield, Scream, Horror, and Wave. For Darth Traya, (and practically everyone else), I use a stunning power, so horror or wave, then critcal strike them all (with master speed on). I did the same thing in KotOR 1 too. Killed everyone in one swipe except Darth Traya took 2 attack rounds, and her floating lightsabers needed to constantly be "Waved" cos they were chewing me up badly.

I thought she didn't want to kill you. If she's trying to provoke you into fighting, killing you instantly won't give you a chance to do so will it?

What about the "Dancer's Outfit"? I've only played Male so I don't know what it looks like on a female player but I've seen it on Mira and Handmaiden.

I guess she's in the same position as Master Kavar then; so still in touch with the force but probably not too using it much to keep off the Sith scanners.

Sometimes the LS/DS points can be strange but the whole idea is that if you're nice you are a goodie Lightside Jedi, and Jedi do not help people in exchange for something. Do you get LS points if you save someone's live say from bounty hounters but then don't take his reward or don't help him with his debts? Jedi should be able to resist anger and emotions. Maybe they've taken that point too far, but somtimes dialog text does not represent the context/tone you're saying it in, like "[Angrily]That's my ship...". As for the lightsaber, you forfeited it when you left. You're not supposed to know Atris is an ignorant loser yet. "The Jedi do not kill their prisoners. No one deserves execution, no matter what their crimes" LS people shouldn't demand LS points :D (now that goes round 'n' round!)

The reason why I disagree with this is that it almost says that the Sith were acting for the good of the galaxy, which is the kinda satire you get when you see the intro to Tie Fighter.

He and Atris weren't used well but I don't think it's was a failure as that. With the way the ending was changed, and the game generally seeming rushed (bugs and stuff), this might've been another plot change during development, but early enough to not leave things like dialog and sound files.

Thats hardly fair. I think the graphics are fine. A belive that in time for next game, they should update though. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> K3 is being written from scratch (ie, new Engine). I think the graphics are fine, and much better than 1999 standards. Besides, it means I was able to run it on my old computer. Besides, how else could it have been completed so quickly (probably too quickly). Also, maybe they decided against writing a new engine because they realised from BioWare that a lot of people with older machines were asking if they could play it - make it too new and you lose sales. I am realistic though, K3 will not run on my current machine. Looks like I've got a time limit to save up and buy that ATI X850XT I want (or whatever is the top at the time).

OK, this is about Bastila but I didn't put her name in the topic title as the guide instructs. If you're LS + (Male/LS Revan) you get Bastila coming in after Carth talks to you at Telos. Ignoring whether you killed her or not in K1 (that's for the other topic), she is alive and well (and waiting for Revan ). How come she hasn't been assassinated by the Sith: - She was a forgotten target: She was famous among the Sith, so I doubt it - She asked to be place under the Carth Jedi Protection Program (ie, hid like the masters except with Carth rather than a fixed planet): Maybe - She gave up being a Jedi: I doubt she would've done so unless Revan asked her to do so before leaving, or she accepted the reasons of the Jedi council which asked that she choose between Jedi and love, although I suppose that wouldn't have made sense cos Revan would've had to as well which means he is useless against the True Sith.

Who, with all the pre-release media, mainly the fading between Nihilus and Atris, would've expected (or liked) to have Atris (or your player who starts with a neutral non-jedi Atris look), to end up DS/Nihilus look or LS/Atris look? or Atris goes evil and changes clothes but that would be too much like K1 Bastila.

Unlike diving (the sport) there are no difficulty bonuses, but it is true that if they had planned a less complicated ending, then they would've given less time as well and the result probably would've been worse - a simple "dive" stuffed up. Again I say that if you enjoyed most of the game would remain the same so if you liked the start you would've liked it the other way. If you liked the whole concept of "True Sith"/"bigger threat" or the "wound in the force" or "Kreia hating the force", then those things would still work through conversation, but I think Obsidian (or LucasArts) made the wrong choice by having your character act on them. Heck they could just say in K3 that "2 jedi have left for that place, neither have been heard of since". One possible way (you'll have to use lots of imagination), using spoiler tag to save people who don't want to read it with a face full of text:

Wouldn't it take longer to change the ending? After all, the voice recording and dialog were done for those bits - it would've taken extra to record new lines and write new dialog - heh, maybe Obsidian put too much weight on the game programmers. K1 suffered many delays right? Sure, it was annoying at the time but now that I have a reference to compare the difference I'm happy that it was delayed or else, well, you see what's happened. Even with the cut ending stuff, the ending itself (like flying into the Nebula, being told about the True Sith being alive, Kreia being wacko and then dropping dead on your command) is the same right? Voice file info: the voice files seem to work every except Windows Media Player. I use Media Player Classic as my secondary media player when WMP fails (you shouldn't need to rename files to MP3)

I didn't get anywhere with Influence so from what I saw I just thought he was a droid used for communication and that G0-T0 was just a gimic (and for easy ID of a party member). I did get suspicious when the Droid continued to work wherever I went and also the fact that Goto would not be on his own luxury yacht.

These are the sorts of things people cover in the threads which discuss story plot holes, "this game is crap", bad endings, or anything else like that. So go read those - some of those threads are very long but you can get the general idea without reading them all.