master guardian Posted May 8, 2018 Share Posted May 8, 2018 (edited) Powerful range of classes: - chanter - Paladin - fighter - monk - priest (only for there high level spellls) - Barbarian - wizard Mid tier - druids Lower Mid Tier - Rogue - Cipher Gutter Trash - Ranger (the pet better be good cause his master definatley aint) Edited May 8, 2018 by master guardian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerekKruger Posted May 8, 2018 Share Posted May 8, 2018 Poor Druids 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
master guardian Posted May 8, 2018 Author Share Posted May 8, 2018 sorry added Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quillon Posted May 8, 2018 Share Posted May 8, 2018 Mage Slayer Barbarian Berserker Corpse Eater Top 4 is probably like this not sure about the rest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Urthor Posted May 8, 2018 Share Posted May 8, 2018 Cipher bottom??? xD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
master guardian Posted May 8, 2018 Author Share Posted May 8, 2018 definately cipher bottom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
omgFIREBALLS Posted May 8, 2018 Share Posted May 8, 2018 Welcome to Conjecture Central. 1 My Deadfire mods Out With The Good: The mod for tidying up your Deadfire combat tooltip. Waukeen's Berth: Make all your basic purchases at Queen's Berth. Carrying Voice: Wider chanter invocations. Nemnok's Congregation: Lets all priests express their true faith. Deadfire skill check catalogue right here! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aramintai Posted May 8, 2018 Share Posted May 8, 2018 (edited) I dunno, man, devs posted that rogue's sneak attack scales with power level now. It could be big for single class who gains them faster than multiclass. So this will need some testing. https://forums.obsidian.net/topic/97241-thread-for-those-of-us-who-want-to-roll-a-single-or-multi-roguelets-talk/?p=2006691 Edited May 8, 2018 by Aramintai Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerekKruger Posted May 8, 2018 Share Posted May 8, 2018 So this will need some testing. Honestly this is my feeling about any rankings at the moment. Even with the information we've got from streams there's so much we don't know yet. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dunehunter Posted May 8, 2018 Share Posted May 8, 2018 Powerful range of classes: - chanter - Paladin - fighter - monk - priest (only for there high level spellls) - Barbarian - wizard Mid tier - druids Lower Mid Tier - Rogue - Cipher Gutter Trash - Ranger (the pet better be good cause his master definatley aint) You should separate single class and multiclass, some class are top tier when single classed while bad when multiclassed, vice versa. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voss Posted May 8, 2018 Share Posted May 8, 2018 (edited) Welcome to Conjecture Central. Nah, there isn't any conjecture here. This might as well be random ordering. And technically, despite the thread title, this is pre-release impressions, if anything went into it at all. Edited May 8, 2018 by Voss 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karkarov Posted May 8, 2018 Share Posted May 8, 2018 I saw Cipher is God Tier Rogue is mid God Tier Monk is low God Tier And everyone else is low Suck Tier Except Wizard, they are OMG UNPLAYABLE Tier.Of course my beta impressions say every class was totally playable and could be effective if you had a clue what you are doing, and tier lists are stupid by definition. Probably just a bad first impression though. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BijaT Posted May 8, 2018 Share Posted May 8, 2018 Why the ranger hate? they got twinned arrows and drived flight. All ranged attacks hit twice and bounce of to a nerby enemy aka 4 attacks with evry attack...sounds pritty potent to me. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HAWmaro Posted May 8, 2018 Share Posted May 8, 2018 lol at how low you put cipher, soulblade multiclasse alone drags it to god tier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerekKruger Posted May 8, 2018 Share Posted May 8, 2018 Twinned Shots isn't a modal anymore, it's an active ability that costs resource points. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frog Man Posted May 8, 2018 Share Posted May 8, 2018 I actually enjoy the exercise of tier lists, flawed as they may be! They provoke interesting discussion, help devs know how the community feels about balance, and help new players. If I’m a noobie to Pillars, I don’t want to try to make a class that has problems work when I could be learning the game with classes that are better balanced. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BijaT Posted May 8, 2018 Share Posted May 8, 2018 I actually enjoy the exercise of tier lists, flawed as they may be! They provoke interesting discussion, help devs know how the community feels about balance, and help new players. If I’m a noobie to Pillars, I don’t want to try to make a class that has problems work when I could be learning the game with classes that are better balanced. While rogue/cipher/ranger is bad singelclass maby, as multiclass they can add alot so don´t see them as total trash. Rogue can add 100%+ dmg to auto attacks (with diffrent talents). Cipher have big melee nuke. Ranger got good bonuses for a ranged focused char (focused on using ranged auto attacks) and add another meat shield. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HAWmaro Posted May 8, 2018 Share Posted May 8, 2018 I actually enjoy the exercise of tier lists, flawed as they may be! They provoke interesting discussion, help devs know how the community feels about balance, and help new players. If I’m a noobie to Pillars, I don’t want to try to make a class that has problems work when I could be learning the game with classes that are better balanced. While rogue/cipher/ranger is bad singelclass maby, as multiclass they can add alot so don´t see them as total trash. Rogue can add 100%+ dmg to auto attacks (with diffrent talents). Cipher have big melee nuke. Ranger got good bonuses for a ranged focused char (focused on using ranged auto attacks) and add another meat shield. Ciphers aren't bad as single class, they still do good damage while has having CC that only second to wizards maybe. they also have one of if not the best buff in the game in defensive mind web(I think it's a tier 8 power so only to single class), can give free empower, have an pretty strong permanent lash and are one of the 3 classes with a reliably infinite resource. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nefhi Posted May 28, 2018 Share Posted May 28, 2018 When say "Except Wizard, they are OMG UNPLAYABLE Tier" Why say this¿?¿? this is very very op¿? or the wizard is very bad tier¿? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boeroer Posted May 28, 2018 Share Posted May 28, 2018 (edited) Unicode called, it wants to come back to you. Edited May 28, 2018 by Boeroer 1 Deadfire Community Patch: Nexus Mods Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PizzaSHARK Posted May 28, 2018 Share Posted May 28, 2018 (edited) Rogues are extremely good. Assassin/Devoted can often instagib most foes with a Full Attack from stealth. Streetfighter's bonuses are almost always active because boss fights always have mooks spawning in and other encounters in PotD tend to spam bodies at you. Trickster is... okay, I guess? Might as well just do X/Illusionist though. Rogues also get some really great skills, including being one of the only classes with a 1-cost Full Attack ability (the other being Paladin, IIRC) available at tier 1. Top classes atm, to me, would be (in no particular order): Pure Evoker blaster wizard (open with empowered AOE spell, rest, repeat) Paladin/Chanter support/tank Streetfighter/Goldpact immortal DPS/tank/everything Assassin/Devoted instagib DPS (can be ranged or melee, both work) Helwalker/Berserker OR Helwalker/Devoted AOE spam DPS Obsidian have a really tough job ahead of them if they want power level to be relevant to martial classes. Even if you gave 10% more sneak attack with power levels, rogues would still gain far more by taking paladin or fighter multi than sticking with pure rogue. I can't believe a team with so much tabletop experience thought that allowing full-power/full-access multiclassing wouldn't cause massive balance issues. Edited May 28, 2018 by PizzaSHARK 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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