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The US and allies have decided to attack Syria, so a separate thread seems sensible. Details are sketchy at the moment, so it's unclear if there was any tacit deal made with Russia or anything else. At least two waves of missiles over Damascus, and some reports of explosions near Homs is pretty much the sum total of what is known so far.


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The Russians moved to safety awhile ago, they took it seriously enough. It seems to be confined to chemical installations, hopefully that will continue.

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They didn't leave, some ships put to sea and that's it. There's literally no concrete information yet, but it looks like in the order of 120 cruise missiles- not tomahawks, this time...- launched from B1s rather than ships and not going anywhere near the Russian base, probably launched over Jordan and coming east to west. Also tacit warning was definitely given to Russia, via the deconfliction line. Overall it looks low energy rather than yuge, and not likely to lead to anything much further.

 

Not surprised it was launched today either, Friday the 13th wasn't going to be a go, but if the medical personnel from Douma Hospital* saying it was smoke inhalation rather than CW gains traction Trump's 'think of the children' appeal goes away. Their story is also exactly what the Syrian Observatory for Human Rights reported, so there's corroboration from a strongly anti government source.

 

*the medical personnel can be seen in the most often repeated footage with the gasping children and point themselves out in it in the video. It's marginally NSFW and has age restriction applied so no embedding.



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Pls forward any future rapefugee refugee directly to France/UK/USA.



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These seem to be limited strikes. Not that different compared to last year. 



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Seems that Syria shot a fair few of the rockets down with their own defenses.



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these people are asking for WW3... and its still 50 years too early for it according to Fallout

i mean by going against Assad, UK, US and France are indirectly allying themselves with ISIS who's purpose is world domination through enforcing their religion on everyone.


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So stupid and pointless. Assad has already won the war, they can't attack him directly without attacking the Russians, so all the destruction is basically for show.

 

'We said this can't pass, but it did pass, so we will attack just to prove you can't say no to us without consequences' - Summary. Said consequences will only hurt people on the ground and the alleged target, not in the slightest, helping an already devastated country take one more step down to total ruination.


Edited by Drowsy Emperor, 14 April 2018 - 02:00 AM.


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One thing to think on. If they really did bomb the chemical weapon plant, what about the contamination they caused by doing it?



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One thing to think on. If they really did bomb the chemical weapon plant, what about the contamination they caused by doing it?

details... nobody will even think about it



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Assad won if you ask me.



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One thing to think on. If they really did bomb the chemical weapon plant, what about the contamination they caused by doing it?

 

The target at Barzeh literally has random civilians and soldiers walking around it and inside it, none wearing so much as a facemask. That's the only one with any pictures yet, and it's taken a fair ding it's fair to say. It is also least likely, if the US descriptions were true, to have much actual chemicals since it was a research facility.

 

There's a big discrepancy between targeting reports still, the Russians, government and rebels all claim a whole bunch of places rather than 3 were targeted. The Russians and, rather oddly, the rabidly anti government SOHR both say that more than half of the missiles were intercepted, Pentagon claims are that none were. While 71 or 65 interceptions seems unlikely the case for at least one storm shadow being intercepted is near incontrovertible (french manufacturing info on wreckage, rocket fuselage looks more like a crash than explosion), and at least one other interception or failure is very likely (random missile debris is shown, but crater is far too large for an interceptor to have caused).

 

Donald Trump tweeted a 'Mission Accomplished' message. I really do wonder sometimes if he does it all deliberately and is the biggest troll in the known universe.



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Shadow Storm is supposed to be relatively new tech, if it got blasted by the old S systems that doesn't sound like much of an endorsement. 

 

Also, at 2.5 million euro a pop, it probably costs more to manufacture than whatever it hit.


Edited by Drowsy Emperor, 14 April 2018 - 07:05 AM.


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Well think every long range missile costs more than what it blows up. Guess you pay more to not risk crew.

Maybe it got downed by newer systems too

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One thing to think on. If they really did bomb the chemical weapon plant, what about the contamination they caused by doing it?

 

Mattis was asked this very question yesterday. He robotically parroted a predictable non-answer about carefully selecting targets and doing their utmost to prevent civilian casualties.

 

 

 

Also, at 2.5 million euro a pop, it probably costs more to manufacture than whatever it hit.

 

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No worries son, we got it covered. Joe Taxpayer knows his dollar is well spent in defense of America, even as he struggles under the crushing weight of medical and/or student debt.


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Double post

Edited by Malcador, 14 April 2018 - 07:23 AM.


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How many oil pipelines run through Syria?



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These seem to be limited strikes. Not that different compared to last year.

It's a limited strike against chemical production facilities which makes far less sense than last years show.
Assad has to have enough sarin stockpiled for numerous stunts like that in Douma.

Edited by pmp10, 14 April 2018 - 08:02 AM.





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