huang Posted March 7, 2018 Share Posted March 7, 2018 I'm kind of bored with long wall-of-text conversations with companions (and even more bored with fully voiced conversations, thanks to MA: Andromeda). So I'm looking forwards to using sidekicks. If that's the case you should just use your own characters, because those hove no text... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord_Mord Posted March 7, 2018 Share Posted March 7, 2018 (edited) If that's the case you should just use your own characters, because those hove no text... Yeah, or the sidekicks, cause that's what they're for. quality discussion ... reasonable forumgoers You are not reasonable. You are just constantly repeating what you want. Achilles on the other hand just stated, that there are reasons for the sidekicks to be in the game and that they are alrerady in, so all that complaining is useless, especially as you didn't even play the ****ing game yet. And guess what: Surprisingly other people want other things than you and guess what else: They will get them and you won't. Get over it! Seriously: What's your problem guys? All that whining and nagging and "I want, I want, I want" that came to this forum in the last year or so. It is so incredibly annoying. Edited March 7, 2018 by Lord_Mord --- We're all doomed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yosharian Posted March 7, 2018 Author Share Posted March 7, 2018 If that's the case you should just use your own characters, because those hove no text... Yeah, or the sidekicks, cause that's what they're for. quality discussion ... reasonable forumgoers You are not reasonable. You are just constantly repeating what you want. Achilles on the other hand just stated, that there are reasons for the sidekicks to be in the game and that they are alrerady in, so all that complaining is useless, especially as you didn't even play the ****ing game yet. And guess what: Surprisingly other people want other things than you and guess what else: They will get them and you won't. Get over it! Seriously: What's your problem guys? All that whining and nagging and "I want, I want, I want" that came to this forum in the last year or so. It is so incredibly annoying. Quote the part where I was unreasonable. Achilles did not 'just' state that there were reasons for sidekicks. If he had, I would have had no problem with his post. This is some Olympics-level spin you're trying to put on my post. 1 Yosharian's Deadfire Builds Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord_Mord Posted March 7, 2018 Share Posted March 7, 2018 (edited) Sidekicks are in. None of us knows how much and what content they will have. Discussion is pointless. Edited March 7, 2018 by Lord_Mord 4 --- We're all doomed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mannock Posted March 7, 2018 Share Posted March 7, 2018 While Jaheira/Viconia just have romance related stuff outside their initial recruiting... That's not true. Jaheira has this awesome quest in which she is cursed/poisoned and will actually die unless you resolve it in time. She also runs into more harpers and... There is more going on with her in this game than just a possible romance. I think some people get confused by it since that/those quests tie very neatly into the romance, if you chose to take the romance route. I'll do it, for a turnip. DnD item quality description mod (for PoE2) by peardox Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerekKruger Posted March 7, 2018 Share Posted March 7, 2018 That's not true. Jaheira has this awesome quest in which she is cursed/poisoned and will actually die unless you resolve it in time. She also runs into more harpers and... There is more going on with her in this game than just a possible romance. To be fair, her quest was notoriously buggy so its quite possible for large portions of it to never fire. That said, it is indeed a good quest when it works (or is forced to through console commands). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Messier-31 Posted March 7, 2018 Share Posted March 7, 2018 That's not true. Jaheira has this awesome quest in which she is cursed/poisoned and will actually die unless you resolve it in time. She also runs into more harpers and... There is more going on with her in this game than just a possible romance. To be fair, her quest was notoriously buggy so its quite possible for large portions of it to never fire. That said, it is indeed a good quest when it works (or is forced to through console commands). Maybe in vanilla, but there were patches. It would be of small avail to talk of magic in the air... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fardragon Posted March 7, 2018 Share Posted March 7, 2018 I'm kind of bored with long wall-of-text conversations with companions (and even more bored with fully voiced conversations, thanks to MA: Andromeda). So I'm looking forwards to using sidekicks. If that's the case you should just use your own characters, because those hove no text... I was some text. I want characters with voices to give them some personality. I just don't want characters who ramble on about how their puppy died when they where 14 and how they now need to read a verse of poetry every day at exactly 12 minutes past noon whilst wearing a blue shawl with pink ribbons that their grandmother kitted as a blanket for the puppy, but was originally red until Uncle Silas fell into the threshing machine and had to.... Everyone knows Science Fiction is really cool. You know what PoE really needs? Spaceships! There isn't any game that wouldn't be improved by a space combat minigame. Adding one to PoE would send sales skyrocketing, and ensure the game was remembered for all time!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
morhilane Posted March 7, 2018 Share Posted March 7, 2018 (edited) While Jaheira/Viconia just have romance related stuff outside their initial recruiting... That's not true. Jaheira has this awesome quest in which she is cursed/poisoned and will actually die unless you resolve it in time. She also runs into more harpers and... There is more going on with her in this game than just a possible romance. I think some people get confused by it since that/those quests tie very neatly into the romance, if you chose to take the romance route. I actually though it was a romance only quest (I only got it when I was romancing her from what I remember). Then she has as many quests as Mazzy's does if we include the intro. Edited March 7, 2018 by morhilane Azarhal, Chanter and Keeper of Truth of the Obsidian Order of Eternity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mannock Posted March 7, 2018 Share Posted March 7, 2018 I actually though it was a romance only quest (I only got it when I was romancing her from what I remember). Then she has as many quests as Mazzy's does if we include the intro. The poison quest kicks in regardless. The others I'm not sure about, though I can see them working perfectly without romance, so I see no reason why they wouldn't fire if you don't romance her. I'll do it, for a turnip. DnD item quality description mod (for PoE2) by peardox Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daven Posted March 7, 2018 Share Posted March 7, 2018 Sidekicks are in. None of us knows how much and what content they will have. Discussion is pointless. We're all doomed! Heh I'm not sure if it's intentional or not how similar to Xan you are! I love it. 1 nowt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord_Mord Posted March 7, 2018 Share Posted March 7, 2018 (edited) Heh I'm not sure if it's intentional or not how similar to Xan you are! Let's say, I chose this picture for a reason. He's still my favorite video game character of all time. Unmodded of course. Leaves more room for imagination (Which actually brings us back to the topic, as I just realised). As a teenager I felt so understood by that guy. Sometimes I talk like that on purpose, but mostly it's just me. I love the word pointless. Edited March 7, 2018 by Lord_Mord 2 --- We're all doomed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tarlonniel Posted March 7, 2018 Share Posted March 7, 2018 Xan is amazing. I'd be very, very happy if they managed to create a sidekick on the level of a Mazzy or an Edwin. Heck, I'd even be happy with a new Cernd. A few characterization hints go a long way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mannock Posted March 7, 2018 Share Posted March 7, 2018 Xan is amazing. I'd be very, very happy if they managed to create a sidekick on the level of a Mazzy or an Edwin. Heck, I'd even be happy with a new Cernd. A few characterization hints go a long way. Cernd? Really? I don't think I've ever seen anyone bring up Cernd as a memorable character from BG2. To each their own though. I'll do it, for a turnip. DnD item quality description mod (for PoE2) by peardox Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valmy Posted March 7, 2018 Share Posted March 7, 2018 Hey! Cernd had a kid. That was a thing I remember. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wormerine Posted March 7, 2018 Share Posted March 7, 2018 Ha! I had to google who Cernd was. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord_Mord Posted March 7, 2018 Share Posted March 7, 2018 Ha! I had to google who Cernd was. Mee too, to be honest. But when I saw him, I remembered instantly. I never took him with me for long. 1 --- We're all doomed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blades of Vanatar Posted March 7, 2018 Share Posted March 7, 2018 Cernd was powerful in SoA. Not as useful in ToB though. It’s great when he stomps Faldorn in the Druid fight. For me that is why he is memorable. No matter which fork in the road you take I am certain adventure awaits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bonarbill Posted March 7, 2018 Share Posted March 7, 2018 Xan is amazing. I'd be very, very happy if they managed to create a sidekick on the level of a Mazzy or an Edwin. Heck, I'd even be happy with a new Cernd. A few characterization hints go a long way. Cernd? Really? I don't think I've ever seen anyone bring up Cernd as a memorable character from BG2. To each their own though. I like him because is generally a nice guy and not a **** like the other Druid you get in the game. Someone doesn't have to be over the top or a **** to be an interesting character. =\ Also, despite shapeshifter limitations, I love the class, so naturally, he always ends up in my final party. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mannock Posted March 7, 2018 Share Posted March 7, 2018 Cernd is okay, but kind of dull in my book. Him and Valygar on the same page. But it could be worse. Could be Haer'Dalis. I'll do it, for a turnip. DnD item quality description mod (for PoE2) by peardox Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerekKruger Posted March 7, 2018 Share Posted March 7, 2018 Cernd is okay, but kind of dull in my book. Him and Valygar on the same page. I'd say Valygar is more interesting. I say this because I can, at least, remember his story quest (ancestor who's a necromancer in the planar sphere) but have basically no idea what Cernd's schtick was other than it was related to the shadow druids. But it could be worse. Could be Haer'Dalis. You take that back! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koth Posted March 7, 2018 Share Posted March 7, 2018 If that's the case you should just use your own characters, because those hove no text... Yeah, or the sidekicks, cause that's what they're for. quality discussion ... reasonable forumgoers You are not reasonable. You are just constantly repeating what you want. Achilles on the other hand just stated, that there are reasons for the sidekicks to be in the game and that they are alrerady in, so all that complaining is useless, especially as you didn't even play the ****ing game yet. And guess what: Surprisingly other people want other things than you and guess what else: They will get them and you won't. Get over it! Seriously: What's your problem guys? All that whining and nagging and "I want, I want, I want" that came to this forum in the last year or so. It is so incredibly annoying. I don't think I was ever requesting that sidekicks be taken out of the game, I was just trying to work out what their niche was. The more I read, the more I am beginning to see people who want companions-lite™ i.e. some banter with maybe a little backstory and a quest to obtain them but not much else. Cool, I get it now. Not for me, but at least I understand why some might like this kind of thing... Either way, no need to be so... Xan about it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 7, 2018 Share Posted March 7, 2018 It’s not about “want” or “like”. This is what’s happening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koth Posted March 7, 2018 Share Posted March 7, 2018 I wasn't aware anyone was trying to argue that it should or shouldn't be happening. Just what to do / how to build your party composition given that it *is* happening.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 7, 2018 Share Posted March 7, 2018 Person who misrepresents arguments complains that their arguments are being misrepresented. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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