Malcador Posted October 16, 2017 Posted October 16, 2017 That's not really them demanding, so much as some politician sucking up to them (that's how we got Family Day in Ontario), no ? One good thing about Trinidad was getting Christian, Muslim and Hindu religious days as public days off. That kind of multiculturalism everyone should be for Why has elegance found so little following? Elegance has the disadvantage that hard work is needed to achieve it and a good education to appreciate it. - Edsger Wybe Dijkstra
Chilloutman Posted October 16, 2017 Posted October 16, 2017 That's not really them demanding, so much as some politician sucking up to them (that's how we got Family Day in Ontario), no ? One good thing about Trinidad was getting Christian, Muslim and Hindu religious days as public days off. That kind of multiculturalism everyone should be for I'm the enemy, 'cause I like to think, I like to read. I'm into freedom of speech, and freedom of choice. I'm the kinda guy that likes to sit in a greasy spoon and wonder, "Gee, should I have the T-bone steak or the jumbo rack of barbecue ribs with the side-order of gravy fries?" I want high cholesterol! I wanna eat bacon, and butter, and buckets of cheese, okay?! I wanna smoke a Cuban cigar the size of Cincinnati in the non-smoking section! I wanna run naked through the street, with green Jell-O all over my body, reading Playboy magazine. Why? Because I suddenly may feel the need to, okay, pal? I've SEEN the future. Do you know what it is? It's a 47-year-old virgin sitting around in his beige pajamas, drinking a banana-broccoli shake, singing "I'm an Oscar Meyer Wiene"
Malcador Posted October 16, 2017 Posted October 16, 2017 (edited) Yeah, I'm aware of that concern - a local referred to it once as Shakira law, so that was a funny meme for a while, heh - but was expecting it to be a bit more diverse a complaint. Ah well. Edited October 16, 2017 by Malcador Why has elegance found so little following? Elegance has the disadvantage that hard work is needed to achieve it and a good education to appreciate it. - Edsger Wybe Dijkstra
Chilloutman Posted October 16, 2017 Posted October 16, 2017 what is your point now, I show you politicians which you dismissed, I show you activists fighting for sharia law which you dismissed, then I show you marches in streets which you dismissed. So what will be example which counts in your book? I'm the enemy, 'cause I like to think, I like to read. I'm into freedom of speech, and freedom of choice. I'm the kinda guy that likes to sit in a greasy spoon and wonder, "Gee, should I have the T-bone steak or the jumbo rack of barbecue ribs with the side-order of gravy fries?" I want high cholesterol! I wanna eat bacon, and butter, and buckets of cheese, okay?! I wanna smoke a Cuban cigar the size of Cincinnati in the non-smoking section! I wanna run naked through the street, with green Jell-O all over my body, reading Playboy magazine. Why? Because I suddenly may feel the need to, okay, pal? I've SEEN the future. Do you know what it is? It's a 47-year-old virgin sitting around in his beige pajamas, drinking a banana-broccoli shake, singing "I'm an Oscar Meyer Wiene"
Malcador Posted October 16, 2017 Posted October 16, 2017 what is your point now, I show you politicians which you dismissed, I show you activists fighting for sharia law which you dismissed, then I show you marches in streets which you dismissed. So what will be example which counts in your book?Well, the politician isn't really a good case of immigrants demanding, a more obvious angle is there. Not sure where you are seeing I'm dismissing everything, but ok, keep nailing yourself on the cross. Given I didn't even ask you, not sure what you're on about. Why has elegance found so little following? Elegance has the disadvantage that hard work is needed to achieve it and a good education to appreciate it. - Edsger Wybe Dijkstra
Chilloutman Posted October 16, 2017 Posted October 16, 2017 again, what is your point? You asked for examples, I show you plenty. Did you take anything from them? I'm the enemy, 'cause I like to think, I like to read. I'm into freedom of speech, and freedom of choice. I'm the kinda guy that likes to sit in a greasy spoon and wonder, "Gee, should I have the T-bone steak or the jumbo rack of barbecue ribs with the side-order of gravy fries?" I want high cholesterol! I wanna eat bacon, and butter, and buckets of cheese, okay?! I wanna smoke a Cuban cigar the size of Cincinnati in the non-smoking section! I wanna run naked through the street, with green Jell-O all over my body, reading Playboy magazine. Why? Because I suddenly may feel the need to, okay, pal? I've SEEN the future. Do you know what it is? It's a 47-year-old virgin sitting around in his beige pajamas, drinking a banana-broccoli shake, singing "I'm an Oscar Meyer Wiene"
Malcador Posted October 16, 2017 Posted October 16, 2017 again, what is your point? You asked for examples, I show you plenty. Did you take anything from them? We you're yapping at me about my responses so here we are. Why has elegance found so little following? Elegance has the disadvantage that hard work is needed to achieve it and a good education to appreciate it. - Edsger Wybe Dijkstra
Chilloutman Posted October 16, 2017 Posted October 16, 2017 again, what is your point? You asked for examples, I show you plenty. Did you take anything from them? We you're yapping at me about my responses so here we are. dude you don't discuss anything related to what you requested and I am the one yapping? Seems like what I provided is not suited to your view/expectation and you are unable to respond to it so you just derail this. No need to reply anymore if you are not going to discus the point - immigrants demanding change of host country instead of assimilating. I'm the enemy, 'cause I like to think, I like to read. I'm into freedom of speech, and freedom of choice. I'm the kinda guy that likes to sit in a greasy spoon and wonder, "Gee, should I have the T-bone steak or the jumbo rack of barbecue ribs with the side-order of gravy fries?" I want high cholesterol! I wanna eat bacon, and butter, and buckets of cheese, okay?! I wanna smoke a Cuban cigar the size of Cincinnati in the non-smoking section! I wanna run naked through the street, with green Jell-O all over my body, reading Playboy magazine. Why? Because I suddenly may feel the need to, okay, pal? I've SEEN the future. Do you know what it is? It's a 47-year-old virgin sitting around in his beige pajamas, drinking a banana-broccoli shake, singing "I'm an Oscar Meyer Wiene"
Guard Dog Posted October 16, 2017 Posted October 16, 2017 Well, adding holidays isn't a terrible thing. Taking away holidays or other types of celebration is. The whole "Muslim Petition to Ban Oktoberfest" was a hoax but there have been a number of local examples of push back in communities with lots of Muslims in Europe, Germany in particular, where local festivals have been the subject of protest and harassment because of alcohol consumption. Plus in Minnesota there was a "Sharia Law" community enforcement a few years back that was so onerous even the local Muslims wanted it shut down. There are a number of States here where the schools are being demanded to educate in Spanish. The very first thing you do when moving to a new country is learn the damned language! I worked in Mexico for six months. I did my best to learn and use Spanish before I ever went down there. I was in Japan for 13 months in the military and tried to learn as much Japanese as I could. It's not an unreasonable thing to ask. 1 "While it is true you learn with age, the down side is what you often learn is what a damn fool you were before" Thomas Sowell
Malcador Posted October 16, 2017 Posted October 16, 2017 again, what is your point? You asked for examples, I show you plenty. Did you take anything from them?We you're yapping at me about my responses so here we are. dude you don't discuss anything related to what you requested and I am the one yapping? Seems like what I provided is not suited to your view/expectation and you are unable to respond to it so you just derail this. No need to reply anymore if you are not going to discus the point - immigrants demanding change of host country instead of assimilating. Really not sure what you're on about now. Already said why one doesn't really count as such and the other is nothing new. Not really a requirement from then on to refute the overall point. Not exactly a binary situation when looking at an item. Why has elegance found so little following? Elegance has the disadvantage that hard work is needed to achieve it and a good education to appreciate it. - Edsger Wybe Dijkstra
redneckdevil Posted October 16, 2017 Posted October 16, 2017 (edited) To be honest, the main problem we had with the Mexicans was the language barrier and lack of wanting to learn English. That's were most of the racism towards them years back stemmed from. Years back growing up, u saw a huge difference of attitude and acceptance between the ones who wouldn't speak it/send their kids to talk instead and the ones who could speak English. Huge difference, the ones who wouldn't/couldn't were usually always viewed in a majorly negative light whereas the ones who spoke English seemed to diffuse and/or be accepted. From imho from personal experience with no scientific knowledge behind it, it seems integration is the key to how immigrants are accepted to either equal or almost equal light Edited October 16, 2017 by redneckdevil 1
Chilloutman Posted October 16, 2017 Posted October 16, 2017 again, what is your point? You asked for examples, I show you plenty. Did you take anything from them?We you're yapping at me about my responses so here we are. dude you don't discuss anything related to what you requested and I am the one yapping? Seems like what I provided is not suited to your view/expectation and you are unable to respond to it so you just derail this. No need to reply anymore if you are not going to discus the point - immigrants demanding change of host country instead of assimilating. Really not sure what you're on about now. Already said why one doesn't really count as such and the other is nothing new. Not really a requirement from then on to refute the overall point. Not exactly a binary situation when looking at an item. Well, they don't count for you maybe, seems like Austrians don't agree. Also, because one is not new it does not count? wtf? xD I'm the enemy, 'cause I like to think, I like to read. I'm into freedom of speech, and freedom of choice. I'm the kinda guy that likes to sit in a greasy spoon and wonder, "Gee, should I have the T-bone steak or the jumbo rack of barbecue ribs with the side-order of gravy fries?" I want high cholesterol! I wanna eat bacon, and butter, and buckets of cheese, okay?! I wanna smoke a Cuban cigar the size of Cincinnati in the non-smoking section! I wanna run naked through the street, with green Jell-O all over my body, reading Playboy magazine. Why? Because I suddenly may feel the need to, okay, pal? I've SEEN the future. Do you know what it is? It's a 47-year-old virgin sitting around in his beige pajamas, drinking a banana-broccoli shake, singing "I'm an Oscar Meyer Wiene"
Malcador Posted October 16, 2017 Posted October 16, 2017 Yeah the thing you're not getting is that I never said it didn't count. Overblown maybe, but everything is online, anyway. Why has elegance found so little following? Elegance has the disadvantage that hard work is needed to achieve it and a good education to appreciate it. - Edsger Wybe Dijkstra
Chilloutman Posted October 16, 2017 Posted October 16, 2017 Yeah the thing you're not getting is that I never said it didn't count. Overblown maybe, but everything is online, anyway. so why are you asking for examples if you know there are tons already xD I'm the enemy, 'cause I like to think, I like to read. I'm into freedom of speech, and freedom of choice. I'm the kinda guy that likes to sit in a greasy spoon and wonder, "Gee, should I have the T-bone steak or the jumbo rack of barbecue ribs with the side-order of gravy fries?" I want high cholesterol! I wanna eat bacon, and butter, and buckets of cheese, okay?! I wanna smoke a Cuban cigar the size of Cincinnati in the non-smoking section! I wanna run naked through the street, with green Jell-O all over my body, reading Playboy magazine. Why? Because I suddenly may feel the need to, okay, pal? I've SEEN the future. Do you know what it is? It's a 47-year-old virgin sitting around in his beige pajamas, drinking a banana-broccoli shake, singing "I'm an Oscar Meyer Wiene"
Elerond Posted October 16, 2017 Posted October 16, 2017 can we please stop with that alt right? Seems like anyone who want to have border these days is alt right. Do you understand there is free education and universal healthcare in most EU states? Its socialistic as it can get Although these parties don't want that to be true in future and they do their best to undermine current systems.
Malcador Posted October 16, 2017 Posted October 16, 2017 Yeah the thing you're not getting is that I never said it didn't count. Overblown maybe, but everything is online, anyway. so why are you asking for examples if you know there are tons already xD Because I can't read Guard Dog's mind. Always good to ask when you hear "many" in a sentence. Why has elegance found so little following? Elegance has the disadvantage that hard work is needed to achieve it and a good education to appreciate it. - Edsger Wybe Dijkstra
Chilloutman Posted October 16, 2017 Posted October 16, 2017 can we please stop with that alt right? Seems like anyone who want to have border these days is alt right. Do you understand there is free education and universal healthcare in most EU states? Its socialistic as it can get Although these parties don't want that to be true in future and they do their best to undermine current systems. what system you mean? Democracy? I'm the enemy, 'cause I like to think, I like to read. I'm into freedom of speech, and freedom of choice. I'm the kinda guy that likes to sit in a greasy spoon and wonder, "Gee, should I have the T-bone steak or the jumbo rack of barbecue ribs with the side-order of gravy fries?" I want high cholesterol! I wanna eat bacon, and butter, and buckets of cheese, okay?! I wanna smoke a Cuban cigar the size of Cincinnati in the non-smoking section! I wanna run naked through the street, with green Jell-O all over my body, reading Playboy magazine. Why? Because I suddenly may feel the need to, okay, pal? I've SEEN the future. Do you know what it is? It's a 47-year-old virgin sitting around in his beige pajamas, drinking a banana-broccoli shake, singing "I'm an Oscar Meyer Wiene"
Elerond Posted October 16, 2017 Posted October 16, 2017 Well, adding holidays isn't a terrible thing. Taking away holidays or other types of celebration is. The whole "Muslim Petition to Ban Oktoberfest" was a hoax but there have been a number of local examples of push back in communities with lots of Muslims in Europe, Germany in particular, where local festivals have been the subject of protest and harassment because of alcohol consumption. Plus in Minnesota there was a "Sharia Law" community enforcement a few years back that was so onerous even the local Muslims wanted it shut down. There are a number of States here where the schools are being demanded to educate in Spanish. The very first thing you do when moving to a new country is learn the damned language! I worked in Mexico for six months. I did my best to learn and use Spanish before I ever went down there. I was in Japan for 13 months in the military and tried to learn as much Japanese as I could. It's not an unreasonable thing to ask. Maybe USA should first declare official language
Elerond Posted October 16, 2017 Posted October 16, 2017 can we please stop with that alt right? Seems like anyone who want to have border these days is alt right. Do you understand there is free education and universal healthcare in most EU states? Its socialistic as it can get Although these parties don't want that to be true in future and they do their best to undermine current systems. what system you mean? Democracy? Systems that allow free education and universal health care
Gfted1 Posted October 16, 2017 Posted October 16, 2017 Free? Findland doesnt pay exhorbitant taxes to fund "free" college and UHC for your population smaller than NY? "I'm your biggest fan, Ill follow you until you love me, Papa"
Chilloutman Posted October 16, 2017 Posted October 16, 2017 Free? Findland doesnt pay exhorbitant taxes to fund "free" college and UHC for your population smaller than NY? Well free for end user, in other terms paid from taxes instead of individual student I'm the enemy, 'cause I like to think, I like to read. I'm into freedom of speech, and freedom of choice. I'm the kinda guy that likes to sit in a greasy spoon and wonder, "Gee, should I have the T-bone steak or the jumbo rack of barbecue ribs with the side-order of gravy fries?" I want high cholesterol! I wanna eat bacon, and butter, and buckets of cheese, okay?! I wanna smoke a Cuban cigar the size of Cincinnati in the non-smoking section! I wanna run naked through the street, with green Jell-O all over my body, reading Playboy magazine. Why? Because I suddenly may feel the need to, okay, pal? I've SEEN the future. Do you know what it is? It's a 47-year-old virgin sitting around in his beige pajamas, drinking a banana-broccoli shake, singing "I'm an Oscar Meyer Wiene"
Chilloutman Posted October 16, 2017 Posted October 16, 2017 can we please stop with that alt right? Seems like anyone who want to have border these days is alt right. Do you understand there is free education and universal healthcare in most EU states? Its socialistic as it can get Although these parties don't want that to be true in future and they do their best to undermine current systems. what system you mean? Democracy? Systems that allow free education and universal health care Not sure about that, do they have it in their policies? Anyway its fine as its based on voter want it that way, its called democracy, still its capitalist versus socialist, nothing far right about it (at least not in term I think most people today relate far right to) I'm the enemy, 'cause I like to think, I like to read. I'm into freedom of speech, and freedom of choice. I'm the kinda guy that likes to sit in a greasy spoon and wonder, "Gee, should I have the T-bone steak or the jumbo rack of barbecue ribs with the side-order of gravy fries?" I want high cholesterol! I wanna eat bacon, and butter, and buckets of cheese, okay?! I wanna smoke a Cuban cigar the size of Cincinnati in the non-smoking section! I wanna run naked through the street, with green Jell-O all over my body, reading Playboy magazine. Why? Because I suddenly may feel the need to, okay, pal? I've SEEN the future. Do you know what it is? It's a 47-year-old virgin sitting around in his beige pajamas, drinking a banana-broccoli shake, singing "I'm an Oscar Meyer Wiene"
Elerond Posted October 16, 2017 Posted October 16, 2017 Free? Findland doesnt pay exhorbitant taxes to fund "free" college and UHC for your population smaller than NY? We pay taxes to keep public sector running like any other country. Our policy is that education is public service and therefore it is publicly funded which is generally known as free education, but of course in money based economy there isn't anything that is actually free, only things that person don't directly pay themselves from their own pockets.
Elerond Posted October 16, 2017 Posted October 16, 2017 can we please stop with that alt right? Seems like anyone who want to have border these days is alt right. Do you understand there is free education and universal healthcare in most EU states? Its socialistic as it can get Although these parties don't want that to be true in future and they do their best to undermine current systems. what system you mean? Democracy? Systems that allow free education and universal health care Not sure about that, do they have it in their policies? Anyway its fine as its based on voter want it that way, its called democracy, still its capitalist versus socialist, nothing far right about it (at least not in term I think most people today relate far right to) For example our "close borders, anti EU, anti immigration" party has cut hundreds of millions from education, health care, created policies to make people get private health insurances in their time in government. During elections they said that they would do opposite, but currently they have been very "right wing" in everything that they have done.
Chilloutman Posted October 16, 2017 Posted October 16, 2017 can we please stop with that alt right? Seems like anyone who want to have border these days is alt right. Do you understand there is free education and universal healthcare in most EU states? Its socialistic as it can get Although these parties don't want that to be true in future and they do their best to undermine current systems. what system you mean? Democracy? Systems that allow free education and universal health care Not sure about that, do they have it in their policies? Anyway its fine as its based on voter want it that way, its called democracy, still its capitalist versus socialist, nothing far right about it (at least not in term I think most people today relate far right to) For example our "close borders, anti EU, anti immigration" party has cut hundreds of millions from education, health care, created policies to make people get private health insurances in their time in government. During elections they said that they would do opposite, but currently they have been very "right wing" in everything that they have done. Well that is sad, they should be hold accountable. I'm the enemy, 'cause I like to think, I like to read. I'm into freedom of speech, and freedom of choice. I'm the kinda guy that likes to sit in a greasy spoon and wonder, "Gee, should I have the T-bone steak or the jumbo rack of barbecue ribs with the side-order of gravy fries?" I want high cholesterol! I wanna eat bacon, and butter, and buckets of cheese, okay?! I wanna smoke a Cuban cigar the size of Cincinnati in the non-smoking section! I wanna run naked through the street, with green Jell-O all over my body, reading Playboy magazine. Why? Because I suddenly may feel the need to, okay, pal? I've SEEN the future. Do you know what it is? It's a 47-year-old virgin sitting around in his beige pajamas, drinking a banana-broccoli shake, singing "I'm an Oscar Meyer Wiene"
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